ayahuasca

[icharianchem]

anyone done it?
its kinda unlikely that anyone knows much about it. The only people Ive even seen in person who did it was Rod Mann and i didnt get to talk to him.

any ways ita mixture of Banisteri caapi vine and Syrian Rue.
the active chemicals are Dmt and MOA inhibitors.

tips for processing/brewing?

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Have u been here? (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca.shtml)

[icharianchem]

always check erowid first
just wanted to see if anyone has any relevant experiance once tried it with just B. caapi with no remarkable effects

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

You need the MAOI to make DMT orally active.

[icharianchem]

i keep gettin mixed messages from all these websites. there seems to be some confusion as to wether the DMT is in the syrian rue or th B. caapi

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

I am not sure my friend.

[headcase]

DMT is in the B. Caapi. It's just that some South American tribes say the "spirit" of the Ayahuasca is in the Syrian Rue. I suppose it does contain some harmala alkaloids, so it's still psychoactive without the DMT. That might be another cause for confusion.

[icharianchem]

Ok will make the Syrian Rue/ B.caapi mix

Post results?

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

You should always post up a trip report! Especially if it is a first experience. It helps others out and to understand various drugs.

[headcase]

Especially a step-by-step synth (or recipie in this case) with pictures. That'd really be appreciated.

[icharianchem]

ok heres the deal
Both B. caapi and Syrian rue are MOAI's
the DMT is either in the Psychotropia leaf or Mimosa bark

am waiting for the bark to arrive

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Mimosa does contain DMT. Ask headcase.

[headcase]

Actually, I was wrong. There is no DMT in the B. Caapi. I remember researching it before I posted that, but clearly I didn't look hard enough. Sorry if I fucked up anyone's Ayahuasca brews.

I know for a fact Mimosa and Psychotria contail DMT, but I'm going to reference it in case my mind is playing tricks again.

Psychotria viridis is a shrub or small tree with small red fruit and long, narrow leaves which produce N,N-DMT. There is a long history of use of these leaves in South American ayahuasca brews.

Cite (http://www.erowid.org/plants/psychotria/psychotria.shtml)

And;

[quote="Erowid"]Mimosa tenuiflora, M. verrucosa and M. ophthalmocentra are perennial drought-resistant shrubs. They have fern-like leafed branches and produce DMT in their root bark.
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[Cite (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa.shtml)]

I think I'm right this time...

[headcase]

Actually, I was wrong. There is no DMT in the B. Caapi. I remember researching it before I posted that, but clearly I didn't look hard enough. Sorry if I fucked up anyone's Ayahuasca brews.

I know for a fact Mimosa and Psychotria contail DMT, but I'm going to reference it in case my mind is playing tricks again.

Psychotria viridis is a shrub or small tree with small red fruit and long, narrow leaves which produce N,N-DMT. There is a long history of use of these leaves in South American ayahuasca brews.

[Cite (http://www.erowid.org/plants/psychotria/psychotria.shtml)]

And;

Mimosa tenuiflora, M. verrucosa and M. ophthalmocentra are perennial drought-resistant shrubs. They have fern-like leafed branches and produce DMT in their root bark.


[Cite (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa.shtml)]

I think I'm right this time...

[icharianchem]

verified

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Affirmative.

[icharianchem]

ok guys heres the deal
i have all the ingredents neccesarry however i have a PO meeting on the morrow so it wont be right away

also i want to do this properly, getting centered and all that, so i might have to meditate with my elder for a few days

sorry about the delay
will post a full update in a few days /weeks

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Good luck mate! Can't wait for the report.

[icharianchem]

fucked up yet again
labored over a B.Caapi / Syrian rue mix downed it only to remember that
they are both MOAI's
i forgot the fuckin DMT (mimosa in this case)

tasted like shit and just made me sick as hell
MOAI's can fuck with you

does anyone have extraction methods for said chemicals cuz I think the large amount of vegatable matter is a large contributer to the nausea/ vomiting

thx in advance

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

www.drugsandbooze.com for a comprehensive DMT extraction i believe.

[Eulux]

the nausea is supposed to be part of the experience...a cleansing of sorts...but to each their own.

if you just want the dmt, then just extract and smoke the shit. if you want the ayahuasca, then expect the vomiting. it's part of the process....

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml

oh, word of advice, if it's not included in the article...get a pipe with a good bend in it...the smoked form turns into a boiling liquid...not tasty at all.

and get a sitter to make sure you smoke the dose. after the first hit, it'll be hard to continue on your own. that and the smoke tastes like burning plastic.

enjoy.

[headcase]

La Purga. Some people avoid the whole "DMT" side of things and go for Syrup of Ipecac. All the cleansing goodness with none of the trip.

Is it hard to finsh a smoked dose of DMT? What does 50mg of DMT even look like?

I've got some good extractions and sources of mimosa hostilis root bark sold in bulk, but they're saved in my favourites and I'm in college at the moment so I'll post them later.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Extracts would be good. Please post all though Headcase!

[Eulux]

Is it hard to finsh a smoked dose of DMT? What does 50mg of DMT even look like?
the first time it was hard due to the harshness, but once you know what to expect, it isn't so hard...you an finish it real quick-like...

as for what it looks like, pictures are better than descriptive words:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_images.shtml

thar.

[headcase]

Yeah I saw those before, I was wondering more about the 50mg than the DMT.

The Lazy Man's Extraction (http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9217), which I like because it's a base extraction instead of acid/base, which would complicate matters for me. Please, no one get that thread locked because I've got some questions when I get my apparatus together.

As for sources, Mimosa Hostilis (http://www.100herbgalaxy.com/prod_ayahuasca_mimosa_powder.htm), $57 a pound.

[Eulux]

next time I make a batch, I'll take a few pictures for ya...

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

As for sources, Mimosa Hostilis (http://www.100herbgalaxy.com/prod_ayahuasca_mimosa_powder.htm), $57 a pound.


Is it legit? looks fairly cheap, mainly that slavia.

[headcase]

I haven't ordered anything from there myself, but I got that link from a trustworthy source. And that was a long time ago. Scam sites tend to come and go quite quickly. Still, I'd try to find some 1st hand verifications of it before I gove it any credit card details. I'd risk a money order or the like though.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Ahhh ok. If anyone does order please post the results.

[icharianchem]

well ok
thats where i got my shit from
prompt and all the stuff seems alright
the salvia knocked me on my ass like never before


however the sell their mailing list to shitty porn sites so use an email acct you dont like or sumthin

[flashmasterfong]

Ayahuasca is boooommmbbb.

[headcase]

Useful comment. I think you find we value a little expansion here. If only a little...

[flashmasterfong]

I was only giving my opinion on the brew, if you want to know anything else erowid is always there. Why must you give me a hard time?

[headcase]

Because you're dragging up a lot of threads to say nothing and, I'm fairly sure, make stuff up.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

If you read the post, erowid had already been suggested.

[icharianchem]

sorry i havent been posting guys
this has nothn to do with the brew
but ive been homeless again for a few months now so keepin this up hasnt been the highest (no pun intended) priority
got a job and am livin in a commune in philly but still wit no internets
sorry for never finishing this

[flashmasterfong]

Because you're dragging up a lot of threads to say nothing and, I'm fairly sure, make stuff up.

Sorry for posting. And I don't make things up.