Transhumanism vs. occult

[In the Nick of Time]

For anyone who knows what transhumanism is, I would like your opinion on something. Now, I know that transhumanim is very different from occult, magick, and metaphysical beliefs, but I heard it said one time that even though transhumanism is atheistic, it actually believes that science will be able to do things someday for which the promises of the occult would pale in comparison. My question for anyone who knows about transhumanism is, do you know of anything that transhumanists, scientific immortalists, or cryonicists envision for the future that would be more glorious than even the most exciting things that the occult promises? To get an idea of what the occult promises, take a look at these websites: http://stores.orderofrebirth.com/Categories.bok?category=FINBARR+BOOKS and http://stores.ebay.ie/WhosTheFrog-International. I chose those websites because that publishing company, Finbarr International, are the only occult books that I'm really familiar with. Anyway, thanks in adavance for your answers and opions.

[M_Rommel]

For anyone who knows what transhumanism is, I would like your opinion on something. Now, I know that transhumanim is very different from occult, magick, and metaphysical beliefs, but I heard it said one time that even though transhumanism is atheistic, it actually believes that science will be able to do things someday for which the promises of the occult would pale in comparison. My question for anyone who knows about transhumanism is, do you know of anything that transhumanists, scientific immortalists, or cryonicists envision for the future that would be more glorious than even the most exciting things that the occult promises? To get an idea of what the occult promises, take a look at these websites: http://stores.orderofrebirth.com/Categories.bok?category=FINBARR+BOOKS and http://stores.ebay.ie/WhosTheFrog-International. I chose those websites because that publishing company, Finbarr International, are the only occult books that I'm really familiar with. Anyway, thanks in adavance for your answers and opions.

I cannot speak for the Occult, but I can chip in my two cents on Transhumanism. I'm really into it, not as a matter of making people into immortals tomorrow or anything, but rather at the promising horizons of science in the decades and centuries to come.

Nanobots, for instance, may rival any sort of Occult teaching, in that these microscopic machines may prove to allow 'immortality' of sorts by repairing the body at the cellular level. This wouldn't protect, obviously, against bomb-blasts and such. :)

For a lot of people, Transhumanism seems more plausible than the Occult (I lean much more towards the former, myself) because it speaks of what we already know about scientific developments, that they may promise great things in the future, on the basis of what they have developed in the past. E.g. computers and spacecrafts.

Anyway, hope this was a useful contribution to your OP. I'm sure that there are people who are more learned in Occult studies than I am.

[.VX]

I agree with LaVey; Magick and Science are just the same thing, a long time ago (I have absolutely no idea exactly how long ago) when man first mixed an acid with a base, and created a neutralisation effect, that would have been considered magick. The only difference is that science can be acurately measured. Thousands of years in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if things that we consider magick now, such as levitating and astral projection, have been explained scientifically.

[davey_crockshit]

The only difference is that science can be acurately measured.

anything having to do with the human mind is notoriously hard to quantify. that's a good thing, i think.

I wouldn't be surprised if things that we consider magick now, such as levitating and astral projection, have been explained scientifically.

first you have to prove they exist to people who don't want to believe they exist. robert anton wilson wrote a book on this subject that i used to have, forgot the name. he's worth reading, by the way.

i glanced at the sites mentioned. a lot of the books seem to deal with summoning demons. either the books are genuine or they are not. if not, its a waste of money other than for entertainment. if genuine, do you really want to contact and therefore draw the attention of something like that?