Should organ donation be compulsory?

[REL0AD]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3182388.ece

No.

[headcase]

Compulsory, no. No one is suggesting that. Assumed consent rather than assumed opposition? Yes. I'd rather my liver live on in some sick child than be eaten by maggots (if only for a few more years). Helping the child's probably a good thing too. Ever meet a 10 year old on dialysis? If you're got issues with organ donation then just fucking opt out. It's not difficult.

[Th0r]

How does someone I will never meet have the right to my organs? A friend of mine died after being hit by a car, and his organs were donated. I just want my body to be left alone before being cremated.

[headcase]

They don't have a right to your organs. Did you even read the article?

I imagine if you or someone you loved was on a long list of people requiring a liver or a kidney to survive you'd think differently. I remember watching some TV show recently (it was actually about victim impact statements) where a mother was telling how her daughter reacted to her brothers murder; eventually getting pregnant at 16. Her mother offered to get her an abortion despite having "travelled to England in the past to demonstrate against abortion". Funny how horribly hypocritical people can be that they can watch others die to... what? WHat is achieved? Nothing.

[Th0r]

I imagine if you or someone you loved was on a long list of people requiring a liver or a kidney to survive you'd think differently.

I probably would think in a different way, but I would still understand if someones family didnt want them to donate organs. If you have died in some accident, because most donors die in accidents, I would understand why your family would not want to prolong your funeral, because they seek closure. Organ donation adds about 3 days before the body can be released to the family. And quite frankly if I died in a terible accident I would want my family and friends to have closure as soon as possible.

[REL0AD]

If some fucker is dying let them die, why should I care, why would I care? The NHS deals with those fucks. I pay my taxes.

Think of it this way...

Reload needs a new liver BUT he drank himself into a stupor everday, therfore fuck him, give the liver to the old fuck down the ward -another burden on fuckin British society.

You really think I'm going to think of anyone but myself? Fuck no.

People only give a fuck when it suits them, no one is different. Aim your arguments with a cross hair, I have an answer for all this bull shit.

[headcase]

Aim you're answers with a corsshair or I'll spout indefensible self-important garbage? Oh, ok, I didn't realise half-baked and half-informed rants counted as arguements. Only care for yourself? You do realise that you have to die before they'll take your organs? That's fairly key to the whole discussion. And if you'd prefer yourself to rot, deluding yourself with stupid claims that your organs won't go to good use (plenty of children, born with their conditions, on dialysis), then evidently you have some horrible, negative outlook on life. Ever see "A Christmas Carol"? Of course you have. "Decrease the exces population" and all that. Now that I think about it, are you quoting Scrooge? Odd choice of arguement...

[Axxess of Evil]

Why let a heart rot in the ground when it can save a life?

[DoctaD]

Reload, you're a fucking idiot. You pay your taxes? I thought you were a fuckin' waste of space dole bum who spends his time damaging public property.

People like you should be slaughtered for organs.

[Darkhunter]

Personally I would say no to the whole thing. My organs are my property so unless I want them gone from me no one gets them. If a person was sick I knew and I agreed to it before I died then maybe but other then that no.

[DoctaD]

Ya know, they dont just take the organs for the sake of it. People are in serious need of these things. They also don't leave your corpse looking like it's had it's stomach pumped full of plastic explosive and detonated, you can still have an open casket wake/funeral, although you'll have little to no control over that anyway.

I personally think that this should be mandatory. Ive carried an organ donor card since I was in my early teens. I'm going to be dead, so what little they can salvage from the body Ive recreationally destroyed should be used to save who's lives can be saved.

The only thing I wouldn't agree with is an organ of mine, or anyone's really, going into a pensioner, maybe 80+ or so. When someone's that age there is little point spending the time and money for a doctor to extend what little lives they have left, especially if they are for some reason higher on a list than a younger person needing the same organ.

[S25]

It should not be compulsory, If I don't want people to have my organs then that is my decision. Some would say it is selfishness and such but they are MY organs.

[headcase]

It should not be compulsory, If I don't want people to have my organs then that is my decision. Some would say it is selfishness and such but they are MY organs.

If you're not going to take the time to read the article we're arguing about (or any of the points already made) then do us a favour and don't take the time to post at all.

As for the family thing, they have the option of denying access to your organs after your death too.

[REL0AD]

Reload, you're a fucking idiot. You pay your taxes? I thought you were a fuckin' waste of space dole bum who spends his time damaging public property.

1. Tax on cigarettes & alcohol.
2. Incapacity.
3. Used to...

People like you should be slaughtered for organs

LMAO, bit harsh.

[odin_dax]

Well, some people don't want to donate for religious reasons. I wouldn't mind, per se, but I wouldn't make my wishes known before I die. I've heard in some places doctors don't try as hard to save organ donors, because donations are so badly needed.

[headcase]

I've heard in some places doctors don't try as hard to save organ donors, because donations are so badly needed.

You can think up some vaguely plausible reason to back up any arguement on the planet. If that's your sum justification then you're opinion doesn't count.





(By the by, I'm not following you around just to disagree with you Odin. It's just the way things panned out recently).

[odin_dax]

You can think up some vaguely plausible reason to back up any arguement on the planet. If that's your sum justification then you're opinion doesn't count.





(By the by, I'm not following you around just to disagree with you Odin. It's just the way things panned out recently).

I know...

But, let's be honest, I'm not trying to back up any argument. I'm only stating my opinion, which may or not be true depending on individual cases. It's not a question of organ donation, since I'd be willing after the fact, dependent on my family expressing my wishes.

[Stone]

Umm, so the doctors let somebody die to save somebody else who might still not survive anyway?

[davey_crockshit]

please dont bury meeeeee, in that cold, cold ground, i'd rather have them cut me up and pass me all around.........(dorky '70's song)

its the whole question of the state thinking they own my body. there is too much of that kind of thinking going around. i have no problem with organ donation at all but it is MY decision.

[nobody2000]

I've been the recipient of a Pig's heart Valve, so yes, I will donate my organs to pigs.

But seriously, if you ever want to be an organ donor, make sure your next of kin/loved one/etc, has it in writing (living will, will, notarized document) that you want to be an organ donor, and the final authorization goes to that TRUSTED party.

Why?

Some doctors who work in busy, large hospitals who know of patients on the hospital's transplant list who will benefit from a dying patient's organs will actually "back off" on the treatment of someone who looks hopeless if he knows that the patient is a match (sometimes the blood tests are done for whatever reason, and the proteins and blood types are recorded in your file).

So...you're dying, but maybe you aren't...maybe you can be saved...but the doctor's only making you "comfortable" so you can give up your organs.

Not a likely scenario, but a possible one.

DON'T let hospital officials know you're an organ donor until you're dead. They may ask the next of kin or whomever if you're an organ donor when you're dead. They can present whatever evidence that says that's what you want and do it.

[Antagonist]

Man, for me. When I got my license and they were all "Organ donor?!" I'm like FUCK NO! Without the fuck, and without the caps or exclamation mark because this was in RL and I was not shouting.

My thought process was that I fucking hate people the thought of some piece of shit receiving my organs once I'm dead makes me shutter. In a way, I'd almost feel responsible for a great mis-deed.

Imagine if you died and your organs went to someone who stood for the complete opposite of what you stood for. What if your organs kept bush alive?! That'd be fucking terrible.

Sure, you'd be dead and it wouldn't affect you in anyway, but in the same sense, no one wants their grave pissed on when their dead, they want to be respected and remembered for good things. I don't want to be remembered, or responsible for saving the life of a terrible human being.

I don't think it should be compulsory because there will definitely be some people who will be unaware of this and unwillingly become organ donors. Remember, when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me...why me? I don't fucking know, your the dumbass who assumed shit!