Survival On The Run...

[Th0r]

Imagine.

You're on the run from an law enforcement organisation.

You have limited money and supplies.

Where do you go to get more supplies and money?

Where do you run too?

How do you escape their grasp?

[odin_dax]

Tell us, Thor. Develop some thought here, then build. What are your ideas?

[Th0r]

Run.

With quick basic scams get as much money as possible and get to a jurisdiction [like another state] where they cant get you, head to a remote area within walking distance of a small town you can buy supplies from. Keep on moving.

If I could get a car [illegally] driving would make it faster but also make it a hell of a lot more likely to be caught.

[davey_crockshit]

For travel, I would look into a rideshare board at a college or online. You could get some money spare changing but this would bring you to the attention of the police to some extent depending on where and how you did it.

[icharianchem]

1) how serious are your offenses? this indicates how far police can chase you

2) do your offenses have a statute of limitations?

3) is another country an option?

4) how long do you want to stay hidden

5) how much of a social life do you want (you can hole up in the woods in canada with a few friends for...... always)

[.VX]

Go stay with friends in the country. And try to start a new life.

[iceman69]

first mistake going to the country lol.. a small town lol.. worst phucking mistake period!
why go somewhere where someone says say here momma aint dat dere dat funny looking fellow in da paper? or where cops have nothing better to do than stop some poor fuck driving down the road at 10 pm cuz there aint no traffic???? comeon here! how many on americas most wanted u see caught in chicago? nyc? zero! why? because theres so many people people have shit to do and it cuts busy bodies down! and cops have reaL shit to do not to harass idiots for walking down the sidewalk! its always bug tussle arkansas where joey was barbaqueing and the neighbor turned him in for looking like someone wanted!
think large population and public transportation. otherwise your phucked:smileysex

[.VX]

If you were paying attention, then you'd know that I'm situated in Australia. It's different over here, we don't have any "America's Most Wanted" type shows. And I didn't say anything about a town.

[Darkhunter]

If you were paying attention, then you'd know that I'm situated in Australia. It's different over here, we don't have any "America's Most Wanted" type shows. And I didn't say anything about a town.

As you can see he was a one post type guy.

[00000]

scam, rob n sell drugs to get money.

jump trains all the way to some other county.

get a job til you can save for a trip to 'dam.

simple.

[Th0r]

first mistake going to the country lol.. a small town
I understand what you are saying but it really depends what your town is like.

Where I live everyone just keeps to themselves.

[.VX]

I understand what you are saying but it really depends what your town is like.

Where I live everyone just keeps to themselves.

The place I had in mind was 30 minutes away from the nearest town. And the 'town' only consists of a post office, a pub, a park, and a petrol station.

[icharianchem]

scam, rob n sell drugs to get money.

jump trains all the way to some other county.

get a job til you can save for a trip to 'dam.

simple.

way to be a noob

[.VX]

scam, rob n sell drugs to get money.

jump trains all the way to some other county.

get a job til you can save for a trip to 'dam.

simple.

Wow! Who would have thought it was that easy?

[icharianchem]

i didnt
im sooo glad he told us tho
where can we be with more people like him?


Totse

[.VX]

-Shudders-

[Th0r]

The place I had in mind was 30 minutes away from the nearest town. And the 'town' only consists of a post office, a pub, a park, and a petrol station.

I mean a place like that would be good.

In Australia it would probably be fairly easy to out run the cops or law enforcement agencies. You have the outback. Just head there with plenty of supplies etc. When your supplies run low head out to the nearest "town" or village [though that could be a long way away] with a general store to purchase or steal supplies.

[iceman69]

your 100% right. Things are different in the states here. We border being a police state like nazi germany. It is nearly can i see your papers sir! I was once on the run for 12 years being wanted for a 2nd degree felony punishable by 15 years in prison. I turned myself in after 12 years so i could come home. The judge said if i made it that long without getting in trouble i must be rehabillitated and dismissed the 10 year suspended prison sentence glooming over me. However I know for a fact one is safer in large cities with public transportation. and the more expensive a area you live in the less police interaction. Here in the states one must be aware of the paper trip... equifax and nasty data collecting methods. One must literaly be dead on paper to be m.o.a long term

[Th0r]

Theres no need to go across the state border through a check point unless you are entirely dependent on a car. Walk across the border and make your way to a small town. Using a car makes it alot easier to catch you unless of course your continually swap cars.

[Darkhunter]

Theres no need to go across the state border through a check point unless you are entirely dependent on a car. Walk across the border and make your way to a small town. Using a car makes it alot easier to catch you unless of course your continually swap cars.

Seriously. Take Vermont of instance for those going to Canada; they only have a required checkpoint at the main highways and interstates. Other then that however it isn't that hard to find a road that isn't that hard to cross over on.

And Maine.... thats another story. I lived in a boarder town for a few years a bit back and the guards wouldn't pay that much attention to those on foot.

[.VX]

I mean a place like that would be good.

In Australia it would probably be fairly easy to out run the cops or law enforcement agencies. You have the outback. Just head there with plenty of supplies etc. When your supplies run low head out to the nearest "town" or village [though that could be a long way away] with a general store to purchase or steal supplies.

You're right, police don't have as much control in Australia as they do in the U.S. And the only America's Most Wanted type shows are all American. And thanks to places like Rorta I could aquire supplies for free with little difficulty.

[davey_crockshit]

i wasnt aware that there were checkpoints at STATE borders in the u.s. as of yet. i havent had a good road trip in a few years though......

the border with canada is a different story though. security has gotten quite a bit tighter in recent years and the american guards often ask you questions going north as well as south. i think you pretty much need a passport to get back in now, and if you dont have one going out, they'll get interested, if only ,in their eyes, to save you some trouble on the return trip.

a lot of dope gets smuggled in from bc along i-5. needless to say, the cops keep a fairly close eye on what goes on. jumping the border there can be done but isnt trivial.

personally, i'd find a house full of hippies that are looking for a roommate. as long as you dont rock the boat too much and find some way of helping out with the rent and food, you're cool. sometimes helping out can mean cooking and doing repairs around the place. it helps to be young, long haired, and able to listen to their political and social theories without giggling. if you're on the run for the right kind of crime, they won't care even if they do find out. depending on location, the cops may pay an excessive amount of attention to them though.

[Darkhunter]

i wasnt aware that there were checkpoints at STATE borders in the u.s. as of yet. i havent had a good road trip in a few years though......

the border with canada is a different story though. security has gotten quite a bit tighter in recent years and the american guards often ask you questions going north as well as south. i think you pretty much need a passport to get back in now, and if you dont have one going out, they'll get interested, if only ,in their eyes, to save you some trouble on the return trip.

a lot of dope gets smuggled in from bc along i-5. needless to say, the cops keep a fairly close eye on what goes on. jumping the border there can be done but isnt trivial.

personally, i'd find a house full of hippies that are looking for a roommate. as long as you dont rock the boat too much and find some way of helping out with the rent and food, you're cool. sometimes helping out can mean cooking and doing repairs around the place. it helps to be young, long haired, and able to listen to their political and social theories without giggling. if you're on the run for the right kind of crime, they won't care even if they do find out. depending on location, the cops may pay an excessive amount of attention to them though.

There are a few depending on the location. As you said highly traversed roads are subject to search and cops keep an eye on it fairly well.

[.VX]

young, long haired, and able to listen to their political and social theories without giggling.

I happen to be all of those.

[icharianchem]

I happen to be all of those.

i happen to be doing all of those

[crazy white guy]

Where do you go to get more supplies and money?

theft

food and basic needs can be easily stolen, if you are on the run from the law, chances are your not going to be at the store again.

money = mugging. same as before. they will only be looking locally for muggers

Where do you run too?

if it were me i would go east of vancouver into the small hick towns, get an "under the table" job until heat dies down

How do you escape their grasp?

it depends on what you did. for smaller crimes they wouldnt keep looking after 6 months. for murder/rape you run away untill you find a remote place to "settle down". make contact with whoever you want from your past life. Then make a new identity before seeing them again.

[iceman69]

i didnt
im sooo glad he told us tho
where can we be with more people like him?


Totse

Thats a easy question to answer " PRISON"

[davey_crockshit]

@crazywhiteguy. its the "make contact with whoever you want from your former life" thing that gets me. if they want you bad enough, they'll watch your friends and family longer than you think they will. and what happens when that friend gets busted for something? he gets his sentence cut in half for ratting on you, that's what.

suspected in a crime or an actual warrant? do they have your prints? makes a difference.......

[iceman69]

@crazywhiteguy. its the "make contact with whoever you want from your former life" thing that gets me. if they want you bad enough, they'll watch your friends and family longer than you think they will. and what happens when that friend gets busted for something? he gets his sentence cut in half for ratting on you, that's what.

suspected in a crime or an actual warrant? do they have your prints? makes a difference.......

excellent advice !
KINDA LIKE IN THE MOVIE THE ITALLIAN JOB Where he says you shouldnt be in this business if you cannot walk away from your life in 60 seconds and never look back. That is how they catch the big majority. Think your friends wont snitch when the chips are down? think again!
people talk too.. your brother may have conversation about you not meaning any harm with your sister and they are clueless the fbi is listening with their tin can mr microphone telephone tapping equipment. I hate cops I hope every cop gets ass raped by a flock of wild negroes. fuckem

[Th0r]

Never trust anyone.

The cops in the UK have demonstrated that they are willing to use brutal methods to extract information. I'm pretty sure some cops in the USA are no different.

There are very, very few people who would not tell the information you entrusted them with if they knew they would get a brutal beating...

And never count on other people.

[davey_crockshit]

i wouldnt go that far. however it is a sad fact that some facts about our lives, even things that are in and of themselves harmless, need to be compartmentalized. if you're pagan, dont tell your fundamentalist christian mom, for example. avoid trouble before it starts...... something illegal? lets say going back in time and joining the french resistance. the other people in your cell would only know enough about you to get the job done. nothing definite about your family, your habits, your likes and dislikes, etc. they cant tell what they dont know. if someone mentions, even quite innocently that you have an unusual hobby, for example, the german occupation forces can watch businesses and obtain subscription lists for magazines that cater to that hobby. luckily, the ability of the nazis to monitor these kinds of things was much more limited then than it would be if they were around today.

its a stupid example, i know......

anyway, yeah, need to know, and if you do have to make a run for it, like iceman mentioned, walk away from your life. not just the people in it, if they wanted you bad enough, you would have to change your habits too.

thor makes a good point regarding interrogation techniques. it isnt common in the u.s. now. in fact, cops caught doing it get the shit sued out of them and some of them get jail time. there are things i've seen that i am concerned about.

if you have been paying attention to u.s. news, recently there have been a bunch of stories about this bullshit waterboarding debate. back during world war two, we prosecuted and convicted japanese soldiers for doing this to our troops. we called it a war crime. now, suddenly all of these administration supporters cant seem to decide whether or not it is. amnesia? or is it most likely a lame attempt to protect an administration that knowingly authorized and promoted it despite all sorts of treaties outlawing its use. i have no proof of this, of course, the evidence is all secret. maybe the next president will have something to say about whether or not it remains so. :)

so anyway, there is a push to legalize "enhanced interrogation techniques" in terrorism cases at least. well, if terrorists are so bad, what about serial killers? and if serial killers are so bad, what about regular murderers? and if murderers are so bad... you see where i'm going with this.

torture, which is basically what we're talking about. is something that got done in the bad old days. western societies outlawed it and pretty much stamped it out. for a period of about fifty years, no one admitted to using it. they still did, of course, but it was something they had to hide. because they had to hide it, they used it very rarely. now these monkeys are trying to make it legal again. when you make it legal, you make it normal, if you make it normal, its too easy to make it routine. when it gets right down to it, i love my country, i love the values it professes. torture sure as fuck isnt one of them.

sorry to get political, if the mods want to move this somewhere else, go ahead.

as a side issue, most cops are just people trying to do a crappy but necessary job. they tend to be kind of rule oriented, if you've noticed, but most of them at least mean well. (the "mean well" part is a big giant bucket of worms which i wont go into here) there are good ones and bad ones. if you are a thief, you make yourself their enemy, you do this by choice. they will come after you. its what they are paid to do. as long as they arent going outside their authority (beating a confession out of you), or singling you out for something you *arent* responsible for (race, etc.) dont take it personally. a little harmless taunting is one thing, but dont take it too far.

just my opinion

[Th0r]

as a side issue, most cops are just people trying to do a crappy but necessary job. they tend to be kind of rule oriented

Not meaning to go too off topic but yes.

Like most jobs in the world, there are some good guys and there are nasty guys. I have met plenty of good cops and a few nasty cops. But who could blame them. Most cops take a lot of crap from people these days.

[iceman69]

Well my 2 cents says I hope all cops perish the earth the like the way of the dodo bird

[crazy white guy]

how long it takes you to contact past-life people depends on your crime. If everyone in the world is looking for you and will never stop looking untill you are raped in jail, then your screwed. If you want to get away from bankruptcy and the local law, you would only need to run for a few months to a year

[iceman69]

mmm, any felony they will extradite your ass from the farthest anthill on the otherside of the country. I know that first hand. also theres no statue of limitation anymore on a warrant.
I also know that first hand. Made it 12 years once . Then extradited in chains across 5 states by air for a possesion of 44 grams marijuana charge. America is not the america it was. They spent 28,000.00
extraditing me and the case was thrown out because the judge said since i was not arrested for 12 years i was rehabillitated to his satisfaction

[Th0r]

As you can see he was a one post type guy.

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[auto493398]

Regarding crossing the border to canada, I remember watching a news program a couple years ago and they showed some wooded areas along the border that people could just hike across cause there were no roads anywhere close and the only thing guarding that portion of the border were some signs nailed to trees stating "this is the us/canada border, do not cross"
Im betting most of those places are still there cuz people only care about the mexican border.
Anyone know where the wooded crossings are?

You would probably need to take some bear mace with you to be on the safe side.

[davey_crockshit]

in the west, the border areas tend to be rather mountainous. there arent settlements there for a reason. walking out of the woods after a week of hard hiking into a small town, you will stick out. if you can rest, stash your gear, and clean up before meeting the public, it will be easier for you to blend in.

right at the border in western washington, you don't have to worry about bears so much. further east towards idaho, its different and further north in bc it gets interesting from what i understand.

there are a few mountain lions around, of course, but you usually won't even see them.

back east, no grizzlies, a lot more people though.

[crazy white guy]

If you want to get into British Columbia you can go to where you first start seeing the rockies and walk through the farmlands. Its virtually impossible to go by car seeing as you would have to go over multiple fields and ditches but it is possible and fairly easy. An all terrain vehicle could do it and carry any supplies you might need to hike your way to a place like kelowna or vernon. or even hope.

[odin_dax]

Get a boat, sail to the tip of Washington that is landlocked by Canada, walk in.

[auto493398]

Yeah, I should do this as I dont respect any "governments" self imposed "right" to control where I go, fuck them, they just grabbed some land cuz they had superior weapons and then presume to tell everyone they cant go here or there.
Im definately gonna do this in a few years, ill hike through to canada and come back later with a backpack full of BC bud :naughty:

[davey_crockshit]

Q. why does the blaine high school track team always lose?

A. because they're not used to running without a hockey bag over their shoulders.

ha ha

they bust some kids from there about every other year. oh well, keeps them from getting blaine damage i guess.

i'm pretty sure they have border checkpoints at point roberts too.

[guardain]

doing illegal shit like selling dope and mugging ppl or robbing ure local sand negros corner, you might as well turn yourself in. why you gonna do more crimes when ure on the run, more chances of the police to track you down, lets say ure a few states away and you pull crimes to get money to survive cuz your on the run, you have a chance to leave evidence and then the cops will now what general area you are in and put the search into that area, i would do really pretty crimes like going into unlocked cars for some goods but that runs risk also. best bet is to get some off books labor job like landscaping or pickin up dog shit or whatever to get some money to survive, no bank accounts. prepaid phone under assumed name. watch americas most wanted and look into local papers if ure name had been put into it cuz someone seen you in some local town around where you at, even internet search at a local cafe to see if the cops have leads on you. swim was on the run for 2 years and he had some close calls but did it and swim still lived in the place he had the warrents issued, just lived low key and kept his name out the books by having off book job, living at a friends house. not driving at all, and when in friends car it was legit and illegal activites like friend drinking driving, smoking in car, blowing stop signs, illegal turns ect ect, no reason for cops to pull over.

[dbfire]

don't forget to try and blend in socially and racially. I'm latino - so I'm definatly going to a state and part of the city where Hispanics are the majority.

Also, large cities - any contacting could be done from the other side of your new town.

throw away phones - using a public email to an SMS TXT to only a selected few. This way your sanity can stay intact. No calls whatsoever! SMS txt from an email account for any communication with anyone in your previous life.

Plan ahead - if you know your involved in activities that might one day lead you to "take off" get credentials from sibling or other relative (this is not to mess them over only to assist you in obtaining shelter and employment)

walking and public transportation is a must - one innocent pull over froma cop - even if your not driving could mean all this hard work was for nothing.