Survival and Police Chases

[Th0r]

In similarity to my "Survival On The Run" thread, you are in a car chase and desperately trying to escape from the cops. You are running out of fuel and you face life in prison if you give up your fight. What do you do? What tactics do you employ?

If I was on the run I would have a bag of weapons with me anyway, including a 12 Guage or .410 Pump Action shotgun and a pistol of some sort [Not a Sten gun :Wink:]. I would pull over onto the hard shoulder grab the shotgun and take cover by the steering wheel. If the cops run over, gun them down. If they stop and approach the vehicle with caution I would start up and do a runner... Leaving them on the hard shoulder not being able to come after me, or at least giving me a head start.

What weapons and other equipment would you use?

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

What if they have the news/police chopper on you? That thing is pretty much un-beatable in a car.

[iceman69]

viet cong figgured how to make home made rpg's bet you that would shut down their pusuit land and air. Switch to weapons of mass destruction. Grenades, rpg, They would never expect that and would shit their pants like little pussies

[Th0r]

NoX, give them a good bit of ground action before speeding off or fire up at them. The cops will ask the helicopter to move out of the area. And I was talking about a small time encounter with the Police. Not a full on encounter involving every cop from here to Albuquerque...

But bringing a helicopter out of the sky would be extremely difficult.

Forget RPG's...

You would need a Stinger Missile, the Rocket Propelled Grenades are simply not reliable enough. Unless of course you can wield them with great skill and have a lot of experience with them...

Also blow up cars you are in after you have fled them. The cops are going to get one hell of a surprise when they are five metres away and the car blows up.

Watch the scene from the movie "The Transporter" starring Jason Stratham...

He walks towards his car and it is blown up, he finds himself on the bonnet of another car behind him...

It is pretty realistic.

[crazy white guy]

Have a partner with you.

If you have a big enough arsenal the police would say its too much of a risk to civilians to pursue you.

[iceman69]

A faster car might help too! like a corvette or cobra mustang

[Th0r]

Have a partner with you.

If you have a big enough arsenal the police would say its too much of a risk to civilians to pursue you.

Have a partner riding shotgun would be a damn good idea...

In a police pursuit what weapons would you use?

[iceman69]

Have a partner riding shotgun would be a damn good idea...

In a police pursuit what weapons would you use?

ak47 hi cap 30 round mags. 7.62x39 steel core armor piercing & maybe a few molitov cocktails for shits n giggles

[Th0r]

Molotov Cocktails and Drum Magazine AK-47's with Armour piercing or "hollow point" bullets. Plus smoke grenades to throw out of the window when the cops get to close plus Tetsubishi's also known as Calthrops out of the back...

The cops wont know whats hit them...

Also I am working on a small movie entitled the "Worlds Greatest Police Chases", which is a collection of footage of violent, scary and simply crazy police chases...

[auto493398]

First off before I put myself in any situation where I might have to run from the cops, I would practice cross country speed running and parkour for a few months just so I would have a distinct advantage over any fatass donut eating pig. I would also study maps of the area where I intended to commit the offense that might lead to myself being chased by said pigs and visit any wooded areas, then explore them thoroughly. I would also practice being able to slide my car to a stop with the passenger side facing the cop, especially in the grass & dirt, so the cop would have a barrier between him & myself to slow him down and give me an even greater head start. I might also hide some cheap old dirtbikes in the woods and cover them with camouflage netting or buy cheap ass old cars for cash and hide them round exit points of the woods.
Once I was in my car being chased by the cops I would make a beeline for the woods I scoped out, most of the time you see police chases, the idiot running always tries to ditch the car in a suburb and hide in someones backyard and they pretty much always get caught, however the woods offer many many more places to hide and most cops really dont wanna chase you on foot through the woods as they are usually out of shape and would stumble and fall, in fact the trend I have always seen is that as soon as you disappear into the woods they usually stop the chase and call for a k-9 unit, which would give you a head start advantage, especially if you knew the area and had vehicles hidden. Also it would be a lot easier to avoid a chopper.

Personally I wouldnt try pointing a weapon at the cops unless I was cornered with no way out except through the pig, the minute the cop sees a weapon hes gonna radio it in and then your situation is gonna get a lot tougher because every pig from every law enforcement agency around is gonna come running, it would just escalate the situation, besides cops are not allowed to shoot you in the back while you are running from them, they can only shoot you if you are pointing a weapon at them. If you think that you might have to use a weapon and shoot it out with the cops, make sure to purchase some body armour and practice wearing when running, doing parkour, ect... so you will be used to it. After watching the north hollywood shootout, I became a firm believer in the power of body armor against law enforcement because it evens the odds and puts the cops in their place.

[davey_crockshit]

if it's your plan to head for the woods, make sure to walk all around it pissing on everything so that the k-9 units will not lack for false trails

[guardain]

you going to wanna outfit ure car like some kinda spyhunter type shit. secret compartments. plates that flip up or flip around to show a totally differet state plates. ultra bright floodlights like 6 in the back that fold down to blind who is behind you. a kill switch that kills all lights and even the brake lights so lets say ure on a totally dark road and are a decent distance away from the ppl chasing the car, you can hit the switch and be able to brake and not have the brake lights engage and give you away if u decide to slow and dip down an ally way or side street. have runflats on all wheels for spike strips. have a switch that drops down ure own hollow spikes to slow down the cops or who ever is after you. oil slick pan you can engage if they try the pit move on you, they would pit themselves lol. also smoke grenades big ones so if ure far ahead u can block ure moves if you wanna dip away. also can have a small emp device of some sort that when the cops drive over it the wires stickin up will hit the underbody of the cop car and short out their cruiser, shit if they have it then why cant you. the options are endless and very possible to do with not that much cash and time. hardest thing to make would be the emp device i.mo. also for them pesky helicopters have a device like four 5in mortar tubes packed with high grade flash or some other low grade high exploive ap that can hidden in the trunk and the trunk can fold open to expose it with a small camera in the middle for a guide so when the choppers are low, or even 2000 feet high launch them fuckers, they explode close enought they choppers will disengage and not follow. the ideas are endless man lol.

[auto493398]

Guardian, you got some damn good ideas, I actually remember reading that moonshine runners used to do stuff like that back in the day, rotating license plates, oil squirters, high performance engines, ect....
Emp is an interesting idea but I have yet to find any real info on them, future weapons had an episode on them but the one they were using was huge, basically they had to drive the car under it to get it to kill the electronics and evidently you gotta have a massive power source to power it.

[guardain]

well some cops today have a remote controll type rc car that they can drive under the vehicle they are chasing and the rc car has a wire sticking up so when it hits the underbody of the car it will actually short out the cars eletronics and turn the vehical off. now someone can buy a cheap rc car and outfit it with the same type of kill switch device and have something to use, and cop cars have a shit load of eletronics on it so imagine useing that on a cop car, they would be more then pissed off with all that damage to the onboard computers and radios lol. so u better have a good car to get away when they pissed off.to stop the police on using it on you i would think you could outfit ure underbody with a lightweight plastic covering to stop the contact point on the rc car from touching ure underbody. hears spyhunter music playin in head : ) swim needs to start his project car asap lol. oh and never buy a car with onstar the police or fbi can reverse listen to ppl that have onstar or disengage the car also and track it, il start my project car with no power locks or windows, just in case you ever get stuck in flood or deep water you can roll your windows down if you have no power.

[Th0r]

Guardian, you got some damn good ideas, I actually remember reading that moonshine runners used to do stuff like that back in the day, rotating license plates, oil squirters, high performance engines, ect....


Don't you mean James Bond?

Oil squirters generally won't do much, that's urban myth caused by the aforementioned 'Super Spy'. Rotating license plates could work, but I imagine only with old cars with a bulky license plate carrier that can accommodate the rotation.

[guardain]

crude drawing of plate device


http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/474/platedn7.th.png (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=platedn7.png)

[auto493398]

Don't you mean James Bond?
Nope, Im referring to the american moonshine runners from the 50's & 60's...
http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/113_0510_moonshine_runners_cars_history/index.html
they did all kinds of modifications to their cars because if they got caught hauling shine it meant prison.. they were the real life james bond.

Oil squirters generally won't do much, that's urban myth caused by the aforementioned 'Super Spy'.
Im guessing regular oil might not do that much but on an episode of future weapons they showed where the military had developed some super sticky, super slick substance that they would spray on the ground and any vehicle would loose control & slide or just sit in place and spin its wheels, if you expiramented it probably wouldnt be hard to develop a similiar formula, then you would just need to develop a setup in your trunk that could spray it on the road whenever a cop chases you, once it hit his tires, hed be fucked.

Guardian, that plate cover design would definately work, another idea could be to develop a cover that would slide down and hide your plate at the flip of a switch.
well some cops today have a remote controll type rc car that they can drive under the vehicle they are chasing and the rc car has a wire sticking up so when it hits the underbody of the car it will actually short out the cars eletronics and turn the vehical off.
Thats intriguing, ive never heard of that, you got any links or more info, that would be really handy for committing some crime.

[davey_crockshit]

it would be fairly easy to make something that would enable you to have the plate fall off on command revealing another plate beneath it

i cant do ascii so i will try to describe it

at the bottom, the plate sits in a channel. at the top, it is held by magnets if steel. if not steel, glue a washer to the back of it. behind the plate is a solenoid which when activated, pushes the plate away from the magnet. it falls forward and rotates out of the channel and hits the pavement.

make sense?

[icharianchem]

or simpler just have the plate on some kind of hinge the you can flip im revealing either another liscence plate or none at all. i had one of these on my 78 Camaro, so they are an existing product.

[crazy white guy]

i was thinking a tiny bead of high strength glue surrounded by a tiny explosive chage about the size of a quarter. It would break the glue bond and the legal plate wouldnt be harmed seeing as your only using a few grams of explosive.

[guardain]

i like the explosive idea white guy. seems a lil over the top but since explosives are part of it i like it plenty

[Nocturnal]

Assuming I'm in a situation where I'm up against only a few cops with no air support, I would stay in a populated area until the police backed off to avoid collateral damage. As soon as that happened, I would hit backroads and try to find some place to ditch the car.

Since I'm running from the police facing life in prison, I'll assume I have both a large quantity of cash and at least a shotgun and pistol. I would avoid the situation unless I had a fast car. By fast I don't mean 120mph. I mean 200mph plus. Probably AWD, maybe twin turbos for some extra power without having to deal with turbo lag. Something along the lines of a built Stealth RT/TT or an AWD Turbo DSM. Location and route would play a big role in my choice.

If possible, I would drive the car into a lake. It would still be found eventually, but most likely buy me enough time to be far away when it is. If possible, I would buy a car from somebody in the area. It would take the police longer to track down than stealing a car would. If I had time and felt that I could pull it off, I would steal several cars and ditch them in different locations to slow down the trail.

For me, the actual pursuit would be the easy part. With a decent car, outrunning the cops in a straight line would be the easy. Outrunning them in a city or through traffic would be even easier.

In a situation where you have air pursuit, even a little bit of random fire directed at them will force them to pull away. The police won't risk you happening to hit the pilot or a fuel line and dropping the helicopter on a kindergarten playground.

In a situation where I had planned the evasion before hand, I would have multiple routes, multiple vehicles, and contingency plans for everything that could go wrong. Along the way I would drive a car off a bridge (in front of cops), grab an O2 tank off the bottom, swim to a boat downriver, take the boat far away, then grab another car. At that point, I should have bought plenty of time to do whatever I need to do before settling down in hiding.

Long term plan would be to grab a friend or two from halfway across the country (along with more cash and weapons) swing through a couple other states and grab a couple of my stashes, then cross the border into Mexico or Canada. In Canada, I would live in the backwoods for as long as I needed to. In Mexico I have a few friends who would put me up, or I could disappear in the desert easily enough. Alternatively, the Southwestern US has some pretty rural areas. I could probably hide out there for a while if I wanted.

Years ago, my friends and I had a literal SHTF book. We had detailed plans for crimes that would net us millions, detailed evasion plans, the whole works. It was planned that if any of us ever got in enough trouble that we needed to disappear that we would call the others and set the plan in motion.

Shortly after we completed the plans, one of my friends was shot. His car was impounded for evidence with his copy of the plans in the trunk. When I got the car from the impound lot, his gun was still in the trunk, but the notebook containing the plans was gone. That took some explaining to the detectives....

A year and a half later, he's mostly recovered, but we're all living hundreds of miles apart and haven't gotten around to rebuilding our plans.

[jacob]

Nocturnal thats sick as hell, with the boat idea and what not. You really got that thought out.

Everybody has basically said exactly what I'd do, with planning everything out before hand, driving off a bridge to a boat, and going to canada.

Why did your friend get shot nocturna?

[Pimpin4Life30]

Half this shit you guys has said is just plain stupid.Rotating license plates?Oil slickers?Get your head out of video games and movies.First youd never want to try and shhot a helicopter from the sky unless you want the whole fucking army after you.When people are in high speed chase and fuck up there problems are:

1.Didnt see a spike strip.

2.Runs through a four way stop.

3.Get careless

4.Careless around curves.

5.Pit manouver

So heres what you try to get the pigs off your ass.Go at high speed past a school when there letting out.If theres no school around try a residential area.The lead cop would probally end the chase right there.It really depends on the crime you commit.If its suspended licanse you r almost gaurenteed that will work.Now if your running cause of DWI then your fucked almost everyway.Shit the y might even stop the chase if its something big.

If your on the freeway you can always act like your going on the offramp then switch back on really quick.If you only got one pig following you, then you might be good.I fnot then one of the pigs might fall for it.

If your on the road out in the country and got your self a nine or some other hand gun then you can park your car across the road and get on the opposite side the pigs are on and blast a few shots at them.Then while there firing back at you take off leaving them far behind.


I heard someone say something about a crovette or some fast car. Tey would be good on the freeway, but if you wanna try in the lose them on back roads and ruff and muddy trails then id use a old blazer or somethin.Also them real fast cars can be death traps on any road.

You can always run.I hear of people getiing away on foot all the time.

Cops

Local-These are the guys that are fat and physiccally fucked and easy to get away from.

County-Depends on the county.My county police are pretty good and physically fit.But i dought some of them back water placees pigs are any good.These guys will probally still let down if your going through a residential neighborhood or school zone.

State-Id try the gun idea with these scum.Is its only one of them go for the on and off ramp trick.I wouldnt try running from these guys.

Helicopters-The only way that i can think of that would be easiest to get away from them is on foot.It salmost if not impoosible to shake the helicopters.

Also in the states there was some law passed that supports high speed chases A couple years back.So pretty much its harder to get away from the pigs than it was back in the day.

[.VX]

Helicopters-The only way that i can think of that would be easiest to get away from them is on foot.It salmost if not impoosible to shake the helicopters.
That's a terrible idea.

Also in the states there was some law passed that supports high speed chases A couple years back.

Who's telling you this...?

[Pimpin4Life30]

That's a terrible idea.


Who's telling you this...?
^ Its fact man the gov supports high speed chases.It was a year or so back.

If you got a better idea about getting away from helicopters.Id like to hear it.

[.VX]

^ Its fact man the gov supports high speed chases.It was a year or so back.

If you got a better idea about getting away from helicopters.Id like to hear it.

Why would the government want to risk heaps of people's lives if there wasn't any power to be gained from it?

Instead of trying to outrun a helicopter, force it retreat.

[Nocturnal]

Why did your friend get shot nocturna?

He was delivering pizzas and got robbed. He got caught between two guys and shot 4 times. His gun was in the trunk of his car and I was a too far away to get to them in time.

One of the guys who shot him had killed people before but got out of jail after just 9 months. 3 days later, he shot my friend. In the two weeks he was out of jail before he got caught again, police think he killed at least a dozen people and was involved in several robberies and assaults. He won't be getting out again. The cops didn't find the second shooter in time to give him the luxury of going to prison.

Back on topic, shooting at a helicopter is your best bet. Shooting at them won't get the Army called in any more than shooting at a cop will. No matter what, shooting at a helicopter or cop is a bad, bad idea. If you kill one, they will make it a personal mission to hunt you down. If civilians are hurt in the process, they won't care. If you don't make it personal for the cops, they won't care much if you get away.

It's best to get away before the helicopters show up. But, in an urban environment at night, it's easy to lose a helicopter on foot. Two friends and I got off a bridge, past about 15 cops with a few K9 units, and away from a helicopter without too much trouble. Stay low, in the brush, and know when to move and when to stay still. Climb a fire escape and cross a roof and the dogs will be out of action. Get inside a building or in thick brush and the helicopters will be useless as well.

In a vehicle on the open road, it would be tougher to get away from a helicopter. Turn off your lights and look for a road with overhanging trees. If nothing else, find a tunnel and stop in the middle. Tunnels always have an escape ladder or maintenance shaft somewhere in the middle. The ground units will find your car and follow you on foot, but at least you will have lost the helicopter.

Also, never overlook the sewer. True, it's very Hollywood, but it also works. Cops won't go in without backup, and usually not without a city maintenance worker to guide them. Unless they see you go in or you leave a clear trail, they won't even think to check until you're long gone. In a large city, you can go anywhere you want through the sewers.

[RoundElephant]

If you are in a sub urb or rural area never attempt to escape a helicopter on foot, they have infrared and will see your body heat.

[Nocturnal]

No they don't. Some might, but not many. Do you realize how much heat is in a city or suburb? Every car, person, large dog, and appliance is going to generate heat. Trust me, heat sensors are not as effective as you think they are.

[RoundElephant]

Look, you can clearly distinguish between a human shape and an oven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pomvh7b94e8

[Nocturnal]

That's not in the US. I know of very few places in the US that actually use infrared. But assuming they do, your chances in a car won't be much better. True, you can differentiate the shapes easily, but moving through a high heat area will cover your own heat signature well enough. You would have to modify your strategy slightly, but the same principles apply. If you get in a building or underground, you'll still be invisible. I wouldn't worry about it.

[RoundElephant]

Yeah, sewers are probably your best bet.

[Pimpin4Life30]

Why would the government want to risk heaps of people's lives if there wasn't any power to be gained from it?

Instead of trying to outrun a helicopter, force it retreat.

Cause the governments crooked.

Force it to retreat by what?Shooting at it?That would only cause you more problems.

[jacob]

Wow nocturnal, you sure have been chased by the cops a lot.

Why were you being chased by cops, k9, and helicopers? wtf?

[Nocturnal]

Because I was on top of an abandoned railroad bridge, about 300 feet in the air. There was a packed out concert a few hundred yards away. They probably thought I was going to jump, or I was some sort of terrorist threat. Either way, cops were already for crowd control. It didn't take much for them to all divert to us. When the foot cops couldn't find us for 3 hours (we were laying on top of the beams where they couldn't see us) they called in a helicopter. We should have known better to climb the bridge in front of thousands of people....

I haven't been chased that much. I don't usually run, just talk my way out of it. Total interaction with cops, maybe 10 times. Not counting being pulled over (close to 20.)

[.VX]

Cause the governments crooked.

Force it to retreat by what?Shooting at it?That would only cause you more problems.

So...the government is encouraging people to engage in high speed chases?
I want to see some evidence of this.

Shooting at a helicopter will bide you some time, and if you're going to spend the rest of your life in prison otherwise, then it's the best option.

[Th0r]

Pimpin, what the hell was up with the Mr. Wizard Remark?

Just because something was/has been featured in a Film it doesn't mean that the Principle Idea and Concept cannot be used in reality, hence the entire purpose of Books such as the PMJB [Poor Mans James Bond.].

All this coming from the Man who asks "What is the easiest Drug to make?".

Helicopters are good for chases but in some occasions they aren't all they are cracked up to be.

The Police Helicopters my 'States' Police Force use are Standard to the UK. They are fitted with the Infrared Heat Detection Gear and other Gadgets such as Cameras and whatnot.

They also need hours upon hours of heavy maintenance and the maximum amount of Fuel it can hold lasts 90 Minutes. Plus they aren't in use on certain days of the year.

In Cities and Suburbs of the USA they won't be running on the 4th of July and the time around New Year, due to the amount of Fireworks and in America people shooting their Guns into the air and whatnot. The same applies [Including New Years but not including the 4th of July and Guns.] in the UK for November 5th known as 'Guy Fawkes' Night.

Police Helicopters also have to retreat if they come under fire from - Lasers.

That's in the form of Laser Pens by the way. I've read several articles on this topic both from News Sources in the US and in the UK.

This Story was Shown recently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/7475530.stm

A ?30 Laser Pen bought on eBay - And Ten Times will get you out of the Clear due to the Call for Evasive action.

[hamster]

viet cong figgured how to make home made rpg's bet you that would shut down their pusuit land and air.
Truth, they don't need to be accurate, just shoot a volley of them

NoX, give them a good bit of ground action before speeding off or fire up at them.

But bringing a helicopter out of the sky would be extremely difficult.

You would need a Stinger Missile, the Rocket Propelled Grenades are simply not reliable enough. Unless of course you can wield them with great skill and have a lot of experience with them...

Also blow up cars you are in after you have fled them. The cops are going to get one hell of a surprise when they are five metres away and the car blows up.


1 you are going to get boxed in, and shot in the face before you try to get away
2 Those things are pretty slow if you think about it, and them pilots are not exacty trained to dodge things flying at them
3 ROFL, we are back to the same robbing a abnk thread, TACTICAL NUCLEAR WARHEAD, your only 100% sure way
4 When RPG hits things, they don't exactly blow up like you would think. Also cars don't really blow up the way you think either.

A faster car might help too! like a corvette or cobra mustang
LOL! first of all you'd stick out like a sore thumb. Try something like an evo or an audi turbo or something.

cheap old dirtbikes in the woods and cover them with camouflage netting or buy cheap ass old cars for cash and hide them round exit points of the woods.


Personally I wouldnt try pointing a weapon at the cops unless I was cornered with no way out except through the pig, the minute the cop sees a weapon hes gonna radio it in and then your situation is gonna get a lot tougher

I became a firm believer in the power of body armor against law enforcement because it evens the odds and puts the cops in their place.

1 best advice you can give someone
2 even better advice
3 Cops use HP rounds how, even with body armor it will hurt like hell

you going to wanna outfit ure car like some kinda spyhunter type shit. secret compartments. plates that flip up or flip around to show a totally differet state plates. ultra bright floodlights like 6 in the back that fold down to blind who is behind you. a kill switch that kills all lights and even the brake lights so lets say ure on a totally dark road and are a decent distance away from the ppl chasing the car, you can hit the switch and be able to brake and not have the brake lights engage and give you away if u decide to slow and dip down an ally way or side street. have runflats on all wheels for spike strips. have a switch that drops down ure own hollow spikes to slow down the cops or who ever is after you. oil slick pan you can engage if they try the pit move on you, they would pit themselves lol. also smoke grenades big ones so if ure far ahead u can block ure moves if you wanna dip away. also can have a small emp device of some sort that when the cops drive over it the wires stickin up will hit the underbody of the cop car and short out their cruiser, shit if they have it then why cant you. the options are endless and very possible to do with not that much cash and time. hardest thing to make would be the emp device i.mo. also for them pesky helicopters have a device like four 5in mortar tubes packed with high grade flash or some other low grade high exploive ap that can hidden in the trunk and the trunk can fold open to expose it with a small camera in the middle for a guide so when the choppers are low, or even 2000 feet high launch them fuckers, they explode close enought they choppers will disengage and not follow. the ideas are endless man lol.

this is assuming you can do all of that while driving at 120mph through a city street, seriously don't attach yourself to your car. Thats how u get fucked.

Assuming I'm in a situation where I'm up against only a few cops with no air support, I would stay in a populated area until the police backed off to avoid collateral damage. As soon as that happened, I would hit backroads and try to find some place to ditch the car.

Since I'm running from the police facing life in prison, I'll assume I have both a large quantity of cash and at least a shotgun and pistol. I would avoid the situation unless I had a fast car. By fast I don't mean 120mph. I mean 200mph plus. Probably AWD, maybe twin turbos for some extra power without having to deal with turbo lag. Something along the lines of a built Stealth RT/TT or an AWD Turbo DSM. Location and route would play a big role in my choice.

In a situation where you have air pursuit, even a little bit of random fire directed at them will force them to pull away. The police won't risk you happening to hit the pilot or a fuel line and dropping the helicopter on a kindergarten playground.


1 TRUTH
2 I mean 200mph plus? Dude thats a lambo, a tricked dsm will only go like 180 tops, that little 4g can only handle so much xD Plus pulling that on the highway = you will get dead pretty fast, the roads being shitty and all.
3 more truth

Half this shit you guys has said is just plain stupid.Rotating license plates?Oil slickers?Get your head out of video games and movies.First youd never want to try and shhot a helicopter from the sky unless you want the whole fucking army after you.When people are in high speed chase and fuck up there problems are:

1.Didnt see a spike strip.

2.Runs through a four way stop.

3.Get careless

4.Careless around curves.

Cops

Local-These are the guys that are fat and physiccally fucked and easy to get away from.

County-Depends on the county.My county police are pretty good and physically fit.But i dought some of them back water placees pigs are any good.These guys will probally still let down if your going through a residential neighborhood or school zone.

State-Id try the gun idea with these scum.Is its only one of them go for the on and off ramp trick.I wouldnt try running from these guys.

Helicopters-The only way that i can think of that would be easiest to get away from them is on foot.It salmost if not impoosible to shake the helicopters.

Also in the states there was some law passed that supports high speed chases A couple years back.So pretty much its harder to get away from the pigs than it was back in the day.
Those mistake principles def apply to most people on this thread.
hmm I don't know weather or not the national guard will come after your ass because of that, but most of this is true. Once you have the state bitches on you, things are not so bad, they are not always the hard asses you would think of.

[Nocturnal]

2 I mean 200mph plus? Dude thats a lambo, a tricked dsm will only go like 180 tops, that little 4g can only handle so much xD Plus pulling that on the highway = you will get dead pretty fast, the roads being shitty and all.


Not saying I would drive it that fast, but I would want to at least know I had that potential speed in case I was in a situation where I could use it. Stealth ES (N/A
3.0 6 cylinder) with 215,000 miles and junk tires would weave through traffic at 130 all day long. Throw some good tires on it, some tighter suspension, and I wouldn't have a problem running 200 (my car wouldn't top 150 downhill with a tailwind) on an open road (assuming I knew the condition of the road very well.)

Something like a DSM would be my choice in a more urban environment. Lighter, and better cornering would make up for the difference in power and top speed.

On the highway, I would want something a little bigger and more stable, like a 3000GT.

The cars I'm naming aren't meant as the exact car I would choose. Just an example of the general idea of the car I would want.

I had a friend who bought a Supra with claimed 600 RWHP. I don't know if that was accurate, but he put it through a guardrail and off a cliff the day he bought it. He said he barely tapped the gas at 90 mph on a curve and it spun him around backwards. He destroyed the car but walked away with just a few bruises.

Depending on the situation, I might opt for a motorcycle instead. Not many cars can compare to the power to weight ratio. Not to mention the ability to split lanes. I miss my bike....

[DISDICK]

i live in fla, infrared on helicopters is standard issue on the numerous(3 or 4) heli's the county's police department has

[redjoker]

It would all depend on how prepared I was and whether or not I had a partner. If I knew I would have to escape the police I would definitely be wearing a mask and carrying a spare change of clothes. I would have the appropriate vehicle waiting for me once I've lost the pigs and enough firepower to handle what I believe is the 'next level' the police might take it. I would have multiple escape routes with little items I might be needing along the way.

If its just two country bumpkins after me I might have an assault rifle, and a few IEDs I've rigged with a cellphone detonator. Enough explosive power to take out a 2 lane highway. I'd drag them onto a narrow stretch of road, get a bit of distance, and drop it out the window. I don't think the second or third cop will be dumb enough to come after me. I could have a friend throwing grenades at them.

If it were police helicoptors and hundreds of squad cars I change my strategy. I would definitely pick early morning trash day in a densely populated neighborhood as the time for the chase if I could. If I'm in a chase I want to be thinking about how I'm going to break them off before I switch cars, not wondering when they will give up. If I can buy 20 seconds of time that no one can see me and switch cars, blow up the old one, and drive off a good ways without being seen, I'll be satisfied. I would definitely take out the helicopters . I would definitely have a partner with me who would be shooting armor piercing rounds at the helicopters until they fucked off or blew up. He would shoot all cops who got too close to our car during the chase and throwing IEDs/grenades out the window at them. The key is to be wildly aggressive and cause as much collateral damage as possible. My car would be loaded with explosives. Also keep in mind that before I did anything really stupid, I went through the neighborhood and dropped off a few little presents next to/inside the trash cans. I'd be careful to pick houses where it looks like everyone is at work. I think a couple hundred pounds of fertilizer with a cellphone as the detonator would do the trick. Pop up about a dozen of these bad boys and several really fancy smoke bombs I made and I think I'm ready to check on the Joneses. I could neutralize hundreds of squad cars and most likely keep anyone from seeing me make the switch. Once we pull up into my neck of the woods, the cops will be in for one hell of a surprise. They should immediately notice that the explosions are far, far more powerful, they are everywhere, there are lots of people around, they can't see well because of the smoke, and that I'm detonating these bitches as fast as I can. I think this should shock everyone for at least a few seconds, confuse them, and maybe put a huge pile of wreckage between the survivors and me. I might get a few minutes of peace, maybe a few hours. All I need is 20 seconds.

[Æhµ]

I found a great little pdf file on evasion techniques, appropriately titled:

Getaway - Driving Techniques for Escape and Evasion.pdf

RS link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/169731324/Getaway_-_Driving_Techniques_for_Escape_and_Evasion.pdf.htm l

One thing you must realize in police chases, is that cops have way better cars than the average joe public. Not necessarily faster mind you - but tougher. Tires rated for higher speeds and wont blow out, heaver duty radiators so cars wont overheat at high speeds, and most importantly TRAINED drivers who wont lose it on corners.

Your best bet is to lose the car and vanish into the urban landscape when in the city. If you can get into a large enough building try to disappear into the overhead ceiling, or a shopping mall and run like a motherfucker to the far end (don't worry what you look like to the bystanders) keep turning corners so the cops can't reconstruct your path from witnesses. Exiting the building when choppers are part of the search equation only puts you right back in the crosshairs. If you can exit and remain under a canopy and get into another building you are in a good position to lose them. You want to create as many "disconnects" between where they last knew your position and your actual position. And don't think just cause you lost them you can simply change a t-shirt and go right back out in public, the cops are going to be profiling the hell out of everyone matching your height/weight/race/hair style. Clothes aren't the only thing cops are looking at.

If you're out in the countryside, your options are limited. Cops tend to know their jurisdiction very well, that means every country lane, blind alley, dead end , and corn field that ends in a ravine. Most small police stations only have a handful of cruisers to use to chase you down, so you want to lose the cop FAST, before the cavalry arrives. Crossing the county line only invites yet another jurisdiction to get involved and more cruisers to evade. Hopefully its not your car your driving, if it IS your car then even if you lose them the cops most likely know who you are so its a lost cause. If its a stolen car, and the cops make to pull you over (for some minor violation), then I suggest this tactic: Pull over to the shoulder (keep the engine running), wait for the cop to stop. As soon as he pulls in behind you slam the car in reverse and take out his front end. Don't just sit there waiting for him to exit the vehicle cause he's in there running your plates and getting the scoop that its a stolen car. After you hit him slam it back into drive and get the hell out of there. Ditch the car when out of site, if you know the area and where the police station is, then be sure NOT to drive on any of the roads leading in that general direction - you don't wont to run into the backup. If the cars fucked up then ditch it, with any luck you'll be in an area you can call for some rescue to pick you up. But considering ramming a cruiser is "aggravated assault" you may just want to crawl into a rabbit hole till the morn.

I think this is mentioned in the pdf file, but it bears repeating - whether you are trying to evade city or country police, don't give them the chance to use the PIT maneuver on you. When approaching a curve, slow down (when still in the straightaway) then accelerate as hard as you dare going into the curve so you open a gap between you and the cruiser. The cruiser will be trying to play catch up and will lose the opportunity to pull the PIT on you.

Lastly, weight the consequences of what they are chasing you for with the consequences of a high speed pursuit, in which you are likely to commit offenses such as assault, aggravated assault, vehicular homicide (you might just hit someone), fleeing and evading, etc., etc., etc.

[Pimpin4Life30]

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[thief]

A big V8 4x4 I think would be good. Strong, fast and off road option. If you had 2 people with you and a shit load of guns and ammo you could have one guy out the back, similar to security contractors in Iraq and one up front to use the sunroof (360 degree). Wepons... you would need one heavy gun for strong suppresive fire. A XM312 would be good for the rear and the guy up front/sunroof a nice M249 would be a nice choice. Driver would need a small 9mm and/or a CAR-15 just incase he needs to dismount but should only be used if that happens. He should only drive and focus on that only. Body armour to.

But all that (apart from the jeep) would be a bit OTT in realistic terms.

[KeepOnTruckin]

if you are in the suburbs, your best bet is the storm drain system, becuase the helicopters with their FLIR (forward looking infrared) heat detectors cant see thru concrete, and you dont have to walk thru shit. unless its raining. Then they let out in huge fields or in big concrete channels where you can have a car or bike stashed

[StealthSeeds]

If your in this situation realisticly you are fucked, radios are already sent out to major police station they likely have a chopper on you (which is said very hard to escape from) I'd hate to be in this situation since I know it will be my life, Jail is a no-go....You have chances of getting away from smaller ammounts or one vechile...maybe some home-made spike strip type thing could be thrown out the windows or shoot out some tires...Theres so many different possibilties to really answer this...Th0r has been watching to much Transporter. haha.