show of power

[crazy white guy]

what would be a good way to show how much power you have?

i mean like taking over a school. holding the students hostage. When a bunch of police cars line up. they are vaporized by a barrage of hellfire missiles from a pair of small attack helicopters. after the attack, one of the helicopters would quickly touchdown in a courtyard an evacuate the entry team.

2 heli piolets + 3 man entry team = 5 people

those five people will have the world on it's knees

what would be the best way to do this?

considering only man-power shortages

[Nemesix]

the best way to have a show of power is to take over a capital building, or destroy it for that matter. with 2 heli piolets and much planning in advance, you may be able to pull something off...unless they have restrictions on the surrounding airspace such as the whitehouse...your piolets would be shot out of the sky so fast your head would spin.

[Th0r]

With a team of nineteen men hijack four planes and fly them into 3 buildings [And a field!]. That showed the world Al-Qaeda and the Taliban weren't a bunch of goat farmers...

But seriously, Crazy White Guy hit the Nine Inch Nail on the head...

Terrorism is the biggest show of power.

Other than Blitzkrieg styles of attack, huge air raid strikes reminiscent of Vietnam and the latter part of World War Two, which some people get confused with terrorism.

You have to stage an event that will have everyone, glued to the edge of their seats...

People gasping in horror.

Something that will be imprinted on the minds of millions. Like 9/11, The Beslan Siege... The list can go on...

[odin_dax]

Terrorism is the biggest show of cowardice. True power rarely needs to flex. It slowly eats all your freedoms, controls your income, has control over every aspect of someone's life, but let's that life live in ignorance.

Anyone can wield a gun, take a hostage. 9/11 was lucky. Hostage takers and terrorists have one thing in common, they all end up dead. Yeah, good way to show power....

[REL0AD]

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Nuclear attacks.
Chemical & biological attacks.

I'd go for biological.

Hostage takers and terrorists have one thing in common, they all end up dead.

It takes balls killing yourself. For example cliff suicide; you're on that cliff edge and you know when you jump there is no turning back... In my opinion that equals balls.

One suicide bomber blows himself up... The leaders are still alive and people know that there are people out there willing to kill themselves and others just to prove a point. Think about it.

Hostage situations
In England, Special Air Service deal with HS & the like... You wouldn't stand a chance.

My opinion
No one on this board could fuck with the goverment.

[odin_dax]

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It takes balls killing yourself. For example cliff suicide; you're on that cliff edge and you know when you jump there is no turning back... In my opinion that equals balls.

One suicide bomber blows himself up... The leaders are still alive and people know that there are people out there willing to kill themselves and others just to prove a point. Think about it.


Balls killing yourself? I'd argue against that.

I thought about it, but I don't really see your point about the bombers. The bombers have no power, and the leaders only have power over the idiots that follow, but is that true power? Do people still shop for groceries in Baghdad? Do we not still fly in planes? How many volunteers go out and risk their lives to feed starving kids in war zones?

It's easy to kill someone, much harder to control someone. Read my previous post.

[REL0AD]

Balls killing yourself? I'd argue against that.

I have expirience with suicide & yes, it does take balls. Different circumstances maybe not, but I stick by my opinion.

Do people still shop for groceries in Baghdad? Do we not still fly in planes? How many volunteers go out and risk their lives to feed starving kids in war zones?

I'm feared of a certain estate where I owe drug money yet I still walk through it (which takes ten minutes) to get to the cheap paki shop for cigarettes...

Just because they do something, doesn't mean they're not scared.

So come on, what's your view on power?

It's easy to kill someone, much harder to control someone.
I find it very easy controling people, getting into their heads. Manipulation etc. I would also find it easy to kill someone... Doesn't make me any more powerful than anyone else on rorta.That's my 2 quid tonto.

The bombers have no power,
Is the ability to take lives not power?

I'd argue against that.
Please do.

[Th0r]

Anyone can wield a gun, take a hostage. 9/11 was lucky. Hostage takers and terrorists have one thing in common, they all end up dead. Yeah, good way to show power....

True.

My opinion is that taking others down with you requires an element of bravery. In some circumstances suicide can be cowardly. But there are some people who I believe are not cowards when they kill themselves.

Back to 9/11, remember the "Falling Man"...

He realised the only chance of survival was throwing himself out of the top story of the tower. Otherwise he would almost certainly suffocate. Now looking over the edge of a tall building frightens me to a degree. Imagine the courage it would take to conciously throw yourself off. Then fall thousands of feet.

You can argue it isnt true bravery. But thats my views on the suicide argument.

And with regards to your other post, control is a good "show" of power.

There many ways of doing it though, all are relatively complex that I can think of.

[davey_crockshit]

burn or splat? a lot of people chose splat. less painful that way. i dont think any of them thought they would live through it.

[Th0r]

Suffocation, davey suffocation.

I would rather die from burns, than watch everyone around you, including yourself choke, collapse and die.

But surviving jumps out of that height?

There was an Israeli woman who survived a huge fall out of an aircraft...

[DoubleTShiftty]

There is an interesting idea I had a while ago, but I've forgot how exactly I would go about it...

All I remember is that it involved black mailing the Government, and the sale of Plutonium.

[Th0r]

There is an interesting idea I had a while ago, but I've forgot how exactly I would go about it...

All I remember is that it involved black mailing the Government, and the sale of Plutonium.

Blackmailing the Government with an Improvised Nuclear Missile purchased from a Rogue Russian former Chechnyan mercenary somewhere in Kazakhstan? :ahso:

Sounds like something from James Bond, if you ask me...

[DoubleTShiftty]

As I say, I cannot remember exactly how I planned it (I had no intentions of carrying it through obviously), but I do remember it wasn't something such as blowing up half of the world if my demands wasn't met..
I think it was more a long the lines of selling Plutonium to high profile characters, that have an influence over their country, and putting a twist in it, so to anyone else it looked as though the British Government was actually selling it in secret, and then blackmailing the Government.
Or it was something like Importing Plutonium into the country and making it look as though it was the work of the British Government.
However, this was when I was about 15, so realistically it wouldn't have worked. Even if it was a good plan, I can't think of what it fucking was. :ahso:

[ZionBlack]

Machiavelli - It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.

Machiavelli- The ends, justify the means.

terrorism may not be the most noble of actions but it is an excellent way to show power