cat burglary

[RoundElephant]

is cat burglary a crime that can be easily committed? Lets say that I grappled my way to the top of a ma and pa book store. Would I be able to get in through the ventilation and loot it.
Or are the precautions taken by the stores too hard to defeat.

[King Guitarist]

your post reminded me of this lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv2QlFi4qVY

[RoundElephant]

That guys an idiot but that is realy funny, I would come prepared though.

[Th0r]

Getting in to shops doesn't work like that. Neither do ventilation shafts...

[RoundElephant]

but then how did the guy in that video just linked get in?

[Th0r]

Due to the roofing that you see falling down he didn't get in through a ventilation duct. The way ventilation ducts are built these days means they are to small for people to move in. Plus if he was coming down through a vent, you would see a metal grate fall down; As opposed to the wooden squares...

That's my understanding of it anyway, and that is certainly what it is like for most buildings like the one in the video in the UK...

My guess is he climbed onto the roof got in between the roof and the wooden squares. They came down as did the inbred...

[crazy white guy]

I like the Idea. it would be good for the low security stores where you could get away with maybe a whole store full of decent priced stuff to still on ebay. One 'heist' would give you a years worth of inventory.

does anyone know how you could get on the roof of a building with flat walls thats say, 15ft tall?

i'm thinking a rope and hook that you throw up and basic climbing gear.

[RoundElephant]

Here is the grappling hook I want to buy:
http://budk.com/product.asp?pn=12%20BKV106

[RoundElephant]

P.S. I saw this happen to a skate store on to catch a thief (that discovery channel show that actually encourages more crime then it stops)

[Zippo]

I thought cat burglary was when you sneak into someones home while they're there and steal from them while they sleep.

edit: what could be worth stealing from a ma and pa book store? Maybe a couple hundred in the till?

[G-Lock]

Well ma and pa store sucks, but I know from the news - some guys pulled off a few of such a "cat" burglaries in high security stores in recent year where I live. You need a good planning beforehand (it's not smash 'n grab), mainly by exploiting security gaps, be it human factor, or poorly installed alarms. You need knowledge of course.

[RoundElephant]

I thought cat burglary was when you sneak into someones home while they're there and steal from them while they sleep.

edit: what could be worth stealing from a ma and pa book store? Maybe a couple hundred in the till?

Every book is priced at least $10 which you can sell on ebay or amazon.
Also the ma and pa book store was an example you can replace it with any store you think would have low security and be on a strip mall.

[Th0r]

Use a large step ladder to get up on to the roof of the store. When you are on the roof drag the ladder up on to the roof laying it flat. Then when you are back on the roof put it back down again or jump off of the roof.

[RoundElephant]

My friends dad owns a liquor store and it has motion sensors. Do you think a small shop in a strip mall would have security to that degree?

The good thingabout the motion sensors where he works is that if they go off without one of the door or window sensors going off then the manager is notified immediately and not the police.

[crazy white guy]

wishful thinking. and i have some free time in my shop class. I think i'll make a grappling hook for the shits and giggles

[stinkingfish]

P.S. I saw this happen to a skate store on to catch a thief (that discovery channel show that actually encourages more crime then it stops)

Only a inbreed monkey would watch a tv show, then feel incline to commit a crime. That show teaches people how vulnerable their property is.

[UKSWAT]

^ And teaches criminals how vulnerable people's property is...

I agree with you though, a criminal mentality is either immediately present or developed by a dramatic event, no TV show like The Real Hustle or Catch a Thief makes someone go "Woah, I'm going to do a break in".

[RoundElephant]

Only a inbreed monkey would watch a tv show, then feel incline to commit a crime. That show teaches people how vulnerable their property is.

I said it encourages crime because criminals are more aware of the ease of the act. You made no valid point in your argument other then agreeing that it teaches the vulnerability of people's property.

[Th0r]

The good thingabout the motion sensors where he works is that if they go off without one of the door or window sensors going off then the manager is notified immediately and not the police.

Strange.

Most of the alarms that are installed like that are managed by security companies. In most cases the alarm automatically alerts the Police to the fact you are inside the building, and it alerts the manager...

On my other HDD, I have an article on a similar burglary in a Strip Mall, written by nbk2000...

[RoundElephant]

well it actually alerted the company and they alerted my friends dad, but the police are only called upon if the door or window sensors go off, at least in that particular case.

[G-Lock]

I wouldn't overestimate the alarms. There are a sh1t load of them everywhere these days, so are the companies, who monitor it. There's a huge competition between them so everybody tries to suggest "lower price" and the quality of the service often goes to the last place.
+ there are so many false alarms that if cops would go every time somewhere alarm goes off - there wouldn't be enough cops to go to the real crimes/need of help.
Of course - there are very good and high security alarms with excellent service, but here's your job to find it out - is it such or isn't.

[RoundElephant]

does cutting the power/ phone / cable lines really deactivate teh security system or does it automatically activate the alarm?

[stinkingfish]

does cutting the power/ phone / cable lines really deactivate teh security system or does it automatically activate the alarm?

It depends on the phone line. A leased phone line(used by business) will set off a alarm when cut.However most phone lines which families use can be cut without a alarm deactivating. Most people do not have leased lines because they are more expensive.