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hamster
28th June 2008, 12:19 AM
In my life study, a question hunts me day to day. What is in a mind of a human being, which has never thought of crime, that motivates him to participate in organized rings? Is it social pressure? Economic? What would invite you, the new generation to join an organization like the cosa nostra or the Russian mob?
7eleven mafia
28th June 2008, 06:13 AM
wrong fourm!
.VX
28th June 2008, 09:14 AM
Power and respect.
Th0r
28th June 2008, 06:11 PM
Financial Pressure is a big 'Crime Motivator'. Lets look at it in this light. In America and the United Kingdom, the areas with the most crime [Especially Gang Crime.] are the poorer areas.
That's not of course to say everyone who is poor or who lives in a financially poor area is a Crook or is involved in Criminal activities, because it doesn't work like that.
Peer Pressure is only that common in occasional crimes, like Vandalism not crimes like Armed Roberry. Drug related crimes and with Gang Crime there is normally both an Economic and a Peer Related motive towards it...
hamster
29th June 2008, 09:30 PM
Peer Pressure is only that common in occasional crimes, like Vandalism not crimes like Armed Robbery. Drug related crimes and with Gang Crime there is normally both an Economic and a Peer Related motive towards it...
As the time goes by, SWIM offers cash and respect promises to some, while only a certain few are willing to work for it The rest would rather work legit, dirty, garbage paying jobs. How so? (I think the USA would be the only place I find this problem)
Th0r
29th June 2008, 10:09 PM
In the United Kingdom and over in the States there is a big 'Social Drive' to get people in areas where Gang Crime is high into legitimate work.
This has been going on since the Eighties where Gang Crime and Drug Crime started to become a real problem. I guess it's now starting to really take affect.
Although for the past, what, two years I guess I have been reading about the 'Social Drive's' affect on people formerly involved in Gang crime.
UKSWAT
29th June 2008, 10:30 PM
Isn't it obvious? Money.
There could be other factors, but it's mainly to do with money and the benefits that come with it.
hamster
29th June 2008, 11:05 PM
Isn't it obvious?
No its not
I give you a crowbar, and 200 dollars to recruit friends. All you have to do is go out and steal car decks or whatever there is of value. But most people in the USA are somewhat brain damaged. And spend the money on weed. Why?
UKSWAT
29th June 2008, 11:07 PM
And spend the money on weed.
Exactly, money to buy goods. Financial freedom that comes with illicit cash.
hamster
29th June 2008, 11:44 PM
Exactly, money to buy goods. Financial freedom that comes with illicit cash.
What I meant to say was spend the 200 given to start an organization that can yield them a lot more.
UKSWAT
30th June 2008, 12:09 AM
I understand your post now.
Well, that's due to the fact that the short-term benefit is always more appealing than the long term; even if more money is guaranteed in the future, humans by nature seek to gain short-term benefits.
That and most people are lazy.
DominoKett
5th September 2008, 05:30 AM
i think also cause its an exciting lifestyle. even if you are involvement in crime only makes you a little extra cash you still benefits in ways like meeting really interesting people that have done crazy things and may lead to you one day getting your big score, plus you start to know tons of people which leads to going to sick parties lots of respect and relationships with hot girls. crime just overall accelerates your life even if the moneys not that good. in other words a high schooler selling weed to make an extra $100 a week is setting himself up for way more good times than the other high schooler that, who works part time and gets an extra $200 a week.
Nocturnal
5th September 2008, 02:45 PM
Or so they think. I haven't seen it actually work out quite that way too often.
When I was still doing illegal stuff a few years ago, I did it for fun. Money wasn't a motivator, I just wanted adrenaline. Most of the people I was working with were in it for the money or "respect."
I cut all my ties with those people after a while, and last I heard, all but one or two of them are either dead or in prison. It didn't really set them up for a better time in the long run.
Hawkeye
17th October 2008, 12:51 PM
I would say that for the most part, money to buy drugs is what gets most people into crime. The rest are usually in it for the cash. Joining a mob on the other hand, might be about meeting the need to belong. If their family is broken up, then they adopt the gang as their new family. Humans are social animals. Also its about becoming someone respected, cool etc, for those who like the gangsta look.
Raverous
29th October 2008, 12:18 PM
edit.
MrKant
22nd January 2009, 10:55 PM
Money, tradition, respect, power, a sense of belonging, safety, lifestyle, intrigue, etc.
The list goes on. There are different motivating factors for different people. It all depends on their character and their environment.
thief
22nd January 2009, 11:06 PM
Financial Pressure is a big 'Crime Motivator'. Lets look at it in this light. In America and the United Kingdom, the areas with the most crime [Especially Gang Crime.] are the poorer areas.
That's not of course to say everyone who is poor or who lives in a finnancially poor area is a Crook or is involved in Criminal activities, because it doesn't work like that.
Peer Pressure is only that common in occasional crimes, like Vandalism not crimes like Armed Robberry. Drug related crimes and with Gang Crime there is normally both an Economic and a Peer Related motive towards it...
This is all very true here in South America. Anyone who is hard up for money are fucked because there is no government welfare for those people and even if there was it would be very little as there are over 20 million people in Sao Paulo state alone... they dont all have jobs thats for sure. So the younger guys turn to crime as a way to support themselves out of pure necessity. Sure you will get the odd playboy who do it for the status.
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