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crazy white guy
9th July 2008, 09:29 AM
This is a clone of my thread on bombshock but i thought t would be best to get every ones views.

Everyone wants power, but not many people are up to the demands of getting there. Leaders like Adolf Hitler, Che Guevara and Fidel Castro have went from being homeless artists, simple family doctors and baseball players to being a revolutionary power. Often its not conquest that people strive for. Many people like myself just want to change how things are run in the world to better suit our needs and wishes. That was what Adolf did. He gathered support in the nationalist socialist party and pushed his way into office. I am thinking the same would be true in a smaller scale for a motivated soul.

How can you rally support for your cause? It might not be a political party your brewing but a criminal syndicate. Or maybe a hate based purification army. How could you play with their emotions in a way that would give you complete control over them? There is the way some gangs and racist groups operate. They prey on weak and innocent people and put them in a situation where they feel compelled to join you. After that they are forced to stay for they know nothing but the warm embracing wool covering of the sheeple army. There are a few reasons that this would not be the best case. First, who are you trying to recruit? Do you want an army of self conscious sheep that will follow your will but fall at the slightest resistance. AS much as you want the numbers necessary to take whatever goal you have, a group of motivated, self sufficient soldiers is needed to whip your sheep into bulls. How might these people be swayed into following you? They wont be convinced by simple fear tactics. One thing that everybody loves is power whether it be money or drugs or protection.
Where would you find these people? Its always possible to talk to individuals and convince them to follow you, but propaganda is much more effective en masse. In the movie "American History X" a warehouse was bought and parties were held. Anyone that came would be shown a life of partying and power and be admitted into the movement.

I have a few questions

What kinds of people should be targeted to build a core group of supporters in the initial group?
What kind of benefits should the hopefuls be teased and prodded with to make the group look more glamorous and formidable?

Everyone wants to take over the world. Heres a thread dedicated to it.

Criticism and support is appreciated, trolling and bitching is not.

Th0r
9th July 2008, 05:34 PM
The question must be asked. What is the Sheeples drive?

Money and what every Politician promises. That the Sheep's views will be listened to and acted upon. Of course in the first years as President or Grand Fuhrer Auf Der Reich you must listen to the sheep and act upon their views.

If you give the Inferior Sheep what they want, then they will vote for you.

As for 'Filth'* Anihalating Groups times like these where Migration is high and the Economy is collapsing the time will be ripe for the sucessors of the Klan and other groups in terms of membership.

*The irony is most of the Inferior Filth [Illiterate Gangsta Vermin and whatnot] are indeed Sheeple...

Vein
9th July 2008, 09:02 PM
I was thinking about this while mowing my neighbors grass for $20... I have no purpose in life, so why not try to control the rat-race of sheeple that is the world? Imagine what Tyler Durdan could have done had he not been ended. Destroyed capitalism that's what! Of course it's only a movie, but it wasn't any more extreme than the Nazi Party, or Stalin's control over the USSR. I think it would take superior organization, constant determination, knowledge, and very little fear. The problem with me is I'm kind of like this guy:

:gives:

What would be desirable is to select people with the same goals, 50 at minimum from rorta, totse, bombshock, etc... and then organize a leadership system and henchmen below us all...

mwhahaha gonna take over the world.

Th0r
23rd July 2008, 11:03 PM
Imagine what Tyler Durdan could have done had he not been ended. Destroyed capitalism that's what! Of course it's only a movie, but it wasn't any more extreme than the Nazi Party, or Stalin's control over the USSR. I think it would take superior organization, constant determination, knowledge, and very little fear.



The actions of the 'Fight Club' in the movie were very different to that of the Nazi's rise to power. Very different.

The Nazi's rise to Power was very extreme and full of brutal violence and discrimination for the best part of thirteen years. Project Mayhems actions were still extreme, but wouldn't have inflicted the same fear into the Financiers as the Nazi's did to their many Political Enemies, such as the Jews, Communists and others.

Among the Financiers who's 'Financial Block' Tyler ultimately destroys in the final scene where the Narrator is with Marla, they would not have the same constant fear of being the one who got the knock at the door that would probably be the last noise they heard.

For what you wrote I only really agreed with the final sentence, in the Quote.

icharianchem
24th July 2008, 07:27 PM
in my mind the ideal control situation is to have people dedicated to an ideal not a person or even necessarily a movement. If some one dedicated to, say, white supremacy* even if the Klan where no more he'd prolli still hate every non-WASP and act according. I think then you ought target a large concern without any feasible solution (people work harder and do more when the feel helpless) and paint your desired goal as the only way to progress. For example in the US 1 in every 3 African AmeriKKKan males will go to prison. Odds are that angry inner city black males have a brother or cousin or dad in jail. They hate cops, they hate prisons, (and to stereotype a little) they arent hugely individualistic (as opposed to ,say, anarchist groups), they believe in the code of silence. Train em up and burn some fuckin prisons mate.


*you can wear my nuts on you Nazi chins