FEMA trains?

[raiden654]

ok i have seen the fema trains on the net that are suppose take us to concentration camps and yes they look easy to modify to take prisoners to the concentration camps.but dose anyone have any pictures of these trains on the insides and that of the shackles or a video that isn't so dark as that i connot see the inside. and i been going around the tracks in my town lookin for these trains. so far nothing. and i will jump on a moving train to take a gander inside. i want to see inside these trains and will do anything within my code of conduct to get inside and take a look.

if you dont know what i'm talking about
theres this conspiracy about a new world order i dont really beleive and people have been talking about concentration camps and new world order and all this other stuff that i think just a buncha bull but maybe there is truth in it and i will not overlook that posibility until alot mor conspirasy stuff that go with it are finalized like the 2008 election being canceled.

[.VX]

I believe in a (non-specific) New World Order, although I don't think they've got concentration camps set up. And if a group of people say that a New World Order is going to cancel the 2008 U.S Presidential election, then I don't think they would, because that would look way too suspicious.

[raiden654]

the idea is to cancel the 2008 elections by declareing a national emergency somethign about iran from what i hear and martial law should be implemented then.

[.VX]

That wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

[odin_dax]

No freakin' way.

[crazy white guy]

sounds not too far off from the truth. The government would force martial law in order for the currect regime to stay in power as many officals in africa do. It wouldnt be that hard to say that any revolutionaries/criminals were 'dangerous to society and must be reformed'. The sheeple would pay the government vast amounts of money to put these people in rehabilitation centers that the governemnt would establish in a way that it would take minimal manpower and money to keep the places going similar to what hitler did but more efficiently. After that the camps would generate gruntwork type products like tank armor and weapon stocks, slings and furniture. The grunts would never see the finished product untill they are killed by the weapons that they helped build.

ou were probably thinking that the grunts dont have the skill to make the armor and ecetera. This is true, but if the prisoners mine the ore, mine the fuels that power the furnaces, manufacture the raw materials and then manufacture the finished component, the only thing the government is paying for would be the few guards that keep the prisoners at bay and the engineers who keep the prisons running smoothly. The camps runners wouldnt care if material is wasted they would be paying next to nothing for it.

[odin_dax]

sounds not too far off from the truth. The government would force martial law in order for the currect regime to stay in power as many officals in africa do. It wouldnt be that hard to say that any revolutionaries/criminals were 'dangerous to society and must be reformed'. The sheeple would pay the government vast amounts of money to put these people in rehabilitation centers that the governemnt would establish in a way that it would take minimal manpower and money to keep the places going similar to what hitler did but more efficiently. After that the camps would generate gruntwork type products like tank armor and weapon stocks, slings and furniture. The grunts would never see the finished product untill they are killed by the weapons that they helped build.

ou were probably thinking that the grunts dont have the skill to make the armor and ecetera. This is true, but if the prisoners mine the ore, mine the fuels that power the furnaces, manufacture the raw materials and then manufacture the finished component, the only thing the government is paying for would be the few guards that keep the prisoners at bay and the engineers who keep the prisons running smoothly. The camps runners wouldnt care if material is wasted they would be paying next to nothing for it.

Are you all writing a fiction novel? Come on, seriously....

[.VX]

You need some reasons to support your argument in some way.

[odin_dax]

You need some reasons to support your argument in some way.

This is where the proving the negative comes in. In all honesty, conspiracy nuts are like psychics. They'll all come up with a song and dance based on the littlest things, but in due time they're all proven false. Everybody says 9/11 is a conspiracy, but what actual proof is there? Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but where's the hard evidence?

The 2008 elections will go on because no matter who wins, national security policy will be the same (yes, if Obama wins too). There is no New World Order. Besides, if the NWO did exist the way some nuts people claim, then the election has already been decided. :bye:

And who is the source of all this FEMA train/concentration camp information? Anyone can say anything on the net! Anybody can make any make any photo up with the right program (and practice)! Sound/voices can be altered too! The militia would be up in arms, and half the country would throw the rest of us into civil war. So some guy on a forum says this crap about FEMA (or any subject for that matter), and you're asking me for proof when instead you should be asking that question!:hitwithro

[.VX]

Besides, if the NWO did exist the way some nuts people claim, then the election has already been decided.

Do you know whether it has been or not?

Everybody says 9/11 is a conspiracy, but what actual proof is there? Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but where's the hard evidence?
Exactly. We have no forseeable way of knowing, so we have to work with the possibilities. There are plenty of obvious reasons why people would want to create a New World Order. So far you havn't presented any credible arguments that suggest that there is no New World Order.

You've just tried to belittle psychics and conspiracy theorists.

Apart from that I agree with you, I've never heard of a New World Order having set up concentration camps and anybody could have quite easily posted that on any number of forums.

[crazy white guy]

Hmm. what do you guys have a problem with what i said? Everything there was just opinion. I didnt state any facts that could be falsified. Its all a matter of someone taking the initiative to assfuck the government.

[odin_dax]

So far you havn't presented any credible arguments that suggest that there is no New World Order.

Oh, but I have. If the NWO never existed, how can I prove it never exist? Proving the negative.


You've just tried to belittle psychics and conspiracy theorists.



Depends on one's views. I didn't try, I did. I belittle psychics because they are frauds that take people's money. Conspiracy theorists is a deeper matter.

[odin_dax]

Hmm. what do you guys have a problem with what i said? Everything there was just opinion. I didnt state any facts that could be falsified. Its all a matter of someone taking the initiative to assfuck the government.

No, we're just talking.

[raiden654]

theres several videos proving 9/11 was fake and one vid i saw was done in a conferance room with many professional architechts(i know prolly spelled wrong) observing the causes one picture even being a woman in the hole that the planes had crashed after the fire in that spot has calmed down.anyways they had alot of proof and fema had lied about the contruction of the towers the link to the vid is somewhere on this site under the loosechange is a joke thread.i had done alot of research and i have concluded that if alot if not almost all conspiracys are true we should find out if the 2008 elections are canceled.i will continue to look at them all as just posibilities until then.

now back to the train thing

i want to see one of these trains and the inside so see if there are shackles. that what this whole thread was about but i like what u all said bout the other stuff.i just want to see the trains insides.thats all.

[crazy white guy]

raiden, you dont need to believe in the government to be a sheep. You sir, are a sheep.

the world trade center disaster was exactly what it looks like and nothng else. The only contravercial thing about it is why it happened. If the US government did it then its a conspiracy. If Othe rag heads did it, its still a conspiracy because bush has dinner with them once every so ofte and trades weapns with them. Theres a thousand ways it could have gone down but, theres nothing special about the WTC disaster. listen to the skeptiod podcast, it outlines all the evdence in pretty the usual layman terms while still giving you the facts.

[.VX]

theres several videos proving 9/11 was fake

Where are these videos then?

[raiden654]

the vids are in theloose change is a joke thread somewhere on this site now back to the traisn has anyone got a look inside.

[raiden654]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60042032&hl=en
theres that vid i told you about its 2 hours long so bring popcorn

[odin_dax]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60042032&hl=en
theres that vid i told you about its 2 hours long so bring popcorn

In the words of Crazy, you're still a sheep. Why you want to believe our own government orchestrated 9/11 is beyond me. It is one thing to do research, weigh both sides, examine the evidence, but all you did is take someone's word for it.

http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/three-easily-understood-lies-in-loose.html

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

http://www.911myths.com/

www.debunk911myths.org

Google: Debunking 9/11

[raiden654]

no i spent 2 days researching 9/11 after watching the vid

[odin_dax]

no i spent 2 days researching 9/11 after watching the vid

Yeah, sure.

[raiden654]

all i want is picture inside these trains so i can make my wn speculations on them. i haven seen any trains that run under the bridge in my town and the bridge is on a main road.