Fighting/punching

[jacob]

Where would I want to punch somebody to ensure that my hand doesnt break?

I've heard that where the jaw connects to the skull, in the ear, and the bridge of the nose.

Any other suggestions or anything?

[odin_dax]

Where would I want to punch somebody to ensure that my hand doesnt break?

I've heard that where the jaw connects to the skull, in the ear, and the bridge of the nose.

Any other suggestions or anything?

Isn't the skull the hardest part of the body?

[RoundElephant]

It's hard to break your hand through a punch unless your muscles McGurk and don't drink milk. Nevertheless, the left armpit is soft and contains allot of arteries and nerve endings. You could also go for the neck.

[crazy white guy]

tae kwon do says throat, pubic mound, nuts, stomach, left shoulder for right handed people and vise versa, upwards into the cheek and downwards into the temple make for knockouts and downwards

My favorite spots are lower stomach, where their ribs meet their stomach and the bottom of their ribs on the left side. The latter two hurt like hell and have a good chance to break ribs. There was this Asian kid that hit his palm on my collar bone that hurt so much that I fell to my knees and was out for more than twenty seconds. I want to learn exactly how to do it but I only knew the guy for the three seconds that the fight lasted.

the things to avoid are the sternum, forehead, bulb of their shoulder and a straight shot to the chin (perpendicular to the ground)

[.VX]

There was this Asian kid that hit his palm on my collar bone that hurt so much that I fell to my knees and was out for more than twenty seconds.

Don't punch them in the collar bone though, because that really fucking hurts both people involved. My advice would be to get in close and go for the solar plexus. Also, if for some strange reason you're in a position to do this, punch them hard in the inner thigh, up around where the femoral artery would be, this won't hurt you in the slightest bit, but probably make their leg buckle from the shock.

[crazy white guy]

I haven't heard of the thigh hit before but it sounds like it may work. I don't think it's very practical though. If you have the chance to get at someone's inner thigh, I'm sure you could trip them just as easy as punching a vein.

[jacob]

I know also if you're ever on the bottom of a brawl theres a pressure point right on the inner thigh where it meets the groin and if you pinch it it hurts like hell.

Are punches to the stomach/chest/ribs a good way to just end a fight? I don't plan on ever getting into a fight but if i ever do i'd just want to get out in a few hits because I don't really feel like fighting.

[RoundElephant]

When I get in fights I throw kicks to the shins to enrage them, when they charge I jab them in the lip or nose. It doesn't hurt my fists.

[SadisticAngelx]

Nose, diaphragm, lung 1 + 5 (located between shoulder blades and just under elbow), femoral triangle if you're punching low.

Alternatively, if you want to put their arms out of action you can elbow them in the bicep then tricep really hard, which in most cases will put that arm and the other one out of action.

Also, if you're going to punch someone, make sure your fist is at a slight angle and keep a slight bend in the arm so you don't hyper-extend it.

also jacob, try not to punch them in the chest because you'll most likely just injure your wrist.

[jacob]

What about right where the abs meet the ribs? That little upside down u/v thing. I heard if you hit there it could potentially send them to the emergency room. I imagine that would end the fight pretty quick. And if not, it will at least knock the wind out of them so I could get an easy blow to the face or temple or even knee them in the stomach if i wanted to. I'd rather punch though.

And I know how to punch, as i've punched many inanimate objects and only ever sprained my wrist once. I punched my refrigerator very very hard one time and knocked it back about a foot and a half and left a dent in it, broken a hole in my door once, but the only time i ever hurt my had was when i went to hit my brother in the face and i ended up getting above his ear on the hard part of his skull. So If i ever had to hit somebody in the face again, I just didnt wanna hurt my hand again.

[RoundElephant]

What about right where the abs meet the ribs? That little upside down u/v thing. I heard if you hit there it could potentially send them to the emergency room. I imagine that would end the fight pretty quick. And if not, it will at least knock the wind out of them so I could get an easy blow to the face or temple or even knee them in the stomach if i wanted to. I'd rather punch though.

That is the diaphragm. And also I don't think that Arnold Schwarzenegger would be able to knock a refrigerator a foot and a half back from just one punch so please do not make up ludacris stories.

[crazy white guy]

What about right where the abs meet the ribs?
allready said
where their ribs meet their stomach and the bottom of their ribs on the left side.

I was talking to a friend in my PE class and he tried punching a random kid just south of the sternum and the kid doubled over and gagged for 30 seconds. It wasn't a hard punch either. If you dont know of the reflex that was at play then do it for yourself.

take two or three fingers and trace down the center of your chest until you feel the drop off into your unprotected stomach. Give it a poke of decent strength and see if you can feel your gag muscles trying to contract. Its a cool little experiment to do when your bored.

[redjoker]

punch them in the fucking balls

[Raverous]

edit.

[hamster]

This thread is embarassing

[XnbX]

It not that much about where you hit someone but HOW you hit 'em. Let me explain a couple things i learned over the years that might be helpfull to some.

If you punch make sure your wrist is 100% straight in line with your arm, if not you might break your wrist. Try to hit with the knuckles of your first and middle finger, you can draw a straigt line from these knuckles to your fore-arm which means you won't hurt them that much its just like the wrist. Also don't put your thumb inside your fist put it under your fingers. You can strengthen the knuckles which wil also help you while punching hard objects, train on softer objects.

You can also hit someone with youre hands open if you hit like that hit with the fleshy part under the thumb or make a chopping motion and hit 'em with the side of little finger.

If you're not sure about where to hit avoid bones or elbow/knee 'em on their bones.

Just take a couple Karate lessons you will learn some basic punching and kicking in a short time.

[lcnostra]

This thread is embarassing

HAHA yeah it is. Get a good neck punch in and your opponent is done...it also won't hurt your hand too much.

[hamster]

Just take a couple Karate lessons you will learn some basic punching and kicking in a short time.

learn to make chop suei with mr miyagi

[redjoker]

The only thing karate classes are good for is to learn how to break stuff properly and how to condition your body for impact. This can all be learned through e-books and martial art videos. I don't recommend going out punching things and breaking bricks to toughen your hands. That his how I conditioned my hands when I was younger and now I'm paying the price. My bones are like stone now but my joints swell up a lot and my I often dislocate bones in my wrist. I don't feel pain now and can just pop them back in place real quick (tends to intimidate people) but I know I will have athritis pretty soon and there is nothing I can do about it :(

If you live in a city then hit up some boxing gyms. They will teach you how to knock someone the fuck out. Condition your hands properly. Do not forget that part. Boxing and street fighting are completely different but boxing will give you the edge you need. You'll know how to move and how to punch properly. With conditioning you will be able to hit someone without breaking your hand. Street fighting will cause severe damage your body over time if you aren't careful. That is why I say fuck fighting fair, just hit them in the balls/throat/ear/backofhead, gouge eyes, kick kneecaps, etc. People who think you should fight fair don't hear every bone in their body pop when they get out of bed in the morning. They are the kind of people that haven't had to fight more than one person at the same time. They've never been hit with a weapon or stabbed.

My recommendation for learning how do defend your self in 'reality' is a basic boxing/muay thai background, and some BJJ (or sambo). Shadow box every day and wrestle with friends whenever you get the opportunity. Sign up for local cage fights and join local MMA clubs.

The goal of a fight in the real world is to put your enemy out of commission ASAP. You never know when they might pick something up or when somebody might jump in. I prefer punching someone in the throat and then slamming them on their head. It has never failed me. A quick jab under the chin, when they reach up/pause for a sec, shoot in and slam them on their head. By slam them on their head, I mean pick them up and sling them face first into the ground. Not get them on the ground. Face first. Then start kicking their ribs, kidneys, face, and baby makers. All it takes is one stiff jab to the throat. Not much energy expended and you can keep a safe distance and be on your guard.

[lcnostra]

The only real way to get good at fighting is through practice. You'll get some injuries, but it will be well worth it when you have the experience necessary.

[redjoker]

Injuries are likely to happen while training. Having careful, respectful, and experienced partners who won't roid out will save both of you a lot of pain and time off from the damage it will cause. As long as everyone understands its a learning process and you are there to improve yourself and not kick someone's ass you won't have as many injuries and you'll grow more. Save that for when you need it.

[iceniner]

A good rule is to never strike the head with a closed fist unless you know what you're doing-- and even professional boxers often get broken fingers, etc.

A palmheel thrust to the nose followed by a downward clawing motion is not nearly as likely to break your hand and has the added benefit of temporarily (?) blinding the opponent. The rake is essentially there for free at the end of the motion. The one disadvantage of this over the closed-fist punch is range.

Hammerfist strikes are also viable provided that you strike primarily with the edge of your hand and keep your fist tightly clenched.

Another blow that is surprisingly uncommon in western streetfighting is the eyejab-- delivered with a flicking or whipping motion of the wrist it's the fastest blow that the human body is capable of. There are several ways to throw an eyejab. The most damaging is basically like a Hitler salute with the fingers held stiff. A quicker way is the whipping flick which can be thrown either palm-up or palm-down. For palm-up you start with your palm facing downish, and as the blow completes you flip it upwards like you were holding a serving tray. As it reaches terminus, snap your arm back and let your wrist be somewhat relaxed so that there's a whipcracking effect.

Rakes and eyeflicks can end a fight fast but they can scratch someone's cornea so you want to be careful, it's not really something for escorting your drunk and belligerent brother out of a wedding reception. But like I said, if one goes in that's pretty much that.

[MrMinister]

I am not saying it doesn't happen but I've never broke my hand while fighting and I go for headshots only, fuck body blows. I have injured my hand and to be honest I usually injure my hand when fighting but not where I can't use it and I've never hurt it bad enough where I could no longer fight, pain-wise or whatever-else wise. I've heard of it happening and am not discounting it , I'm also not saying I'm a bad ass street brawler but I've been in enough where I feel comfortable saying I doubt it would happen to the average person in a fight.

I'll admit 90% of mine land right below the eye in I guess the cheek zone so that could have something to do with it. Just fucking punch the guy in his face and keep punching it aint that hard, fights aren't as strategic as the movies, if you both are really truly fighting and not in a pushing match the fight is going to be over in 30 seconds and someone is going to be fucked up.

Are you slim or bulky?

edit:jesus I just read the rest of these posts....don't want to alienate anyone but dude don't listen to the exotic location advice hhhahaaha you will almost certainly NEVER get that chance in a fight, sucker punching someone , yeah but hell no it wont happen in a fight. Careful with the uppercut, if you can pull that off usually it means you've beaten the dude pretty bad already.

And fuck dude above necro'd some Im gonna necro.

Where would I want to punch somebody to ensure that my hand doesnt break?

I've heard that where the jaw connects to the skull, in the ear, and the bridge of the nose.

Any other suggestions or anything?

[iceniner]

I feel comfortable saying I doubt it would happen to the average person in a fight.
The average person is precisely who it's most likely to happen to. No wrist structure, not enough control or accuracy to avoid punching the forehead et cetera but more than enough strength to break a little finger.

if you both are really truly fighting and not in a pushing match the fight is going to be over in 30 seconds and someone is going to be fucked up.
30? That's a loooooong time.

Are you slim or bulky?
Are you asking me that?

edit:jesus I just read the rest of these posts....don't want to alienate anyone but dude don't listen to the exotic location advice

Agreed, the only "exotic locations" you should be thinking about are eyes, crotch and shins, really.

"Go ugly early" as someone once said.

[sameerkhan4life]

If you know how to punch you would never break your hand, proberly just grace you knuckles.

In my option I think the best place to throw a punch is to the body under the bottom two ribs.

Second would be in the middle of the body (soloplexus), Third would be to the jaw.

[MrMinister]

30? That's a loooooong time.

Compared to someone getting 1 shotted yeah it is, but throw in some locking up, booming and two guys trading blows I don't think it is unrealistic.


Are you asking me that?

Whoever the op was , I don't feel like going to page one to see who it is.





Agreed, the only "exotic locations" you should be thinking about are eyes, crotch and shins, really.

"Go ugly early" as someone once said.[/QUOTE]

[iceniner]

If you know how to punch you would never break your hand, proberly just grace you knuckles.

If that were true, professional boxers would never injure their hands. In fact, hand injuries of various types are common even through gloves.

Feel like throwing a nice hard cross right at the point of someone's elbow? That happens in fights even if the target isn't trying to make it happen... and it WILL break fingers.

[Antagonist]

If you ask me, it is kind of odd that people instinctively go towards the head. Unless they are really into head-butting, your opponent does not attack you with their head. You should focus on hitting them on their limbs and such.

I'm surprised no one mentioned the spot between your neck and shoulders, you know the one people in movies get pinched and faint from the pain (unrealistic). Hitting there will cause your opponent great pain, as well as hinder the movement of their arms. You could also hit someone in the bicep, hit yourself there and tell me that is not a weakspot.

Also, on the sides of your chest, where the little dip goes down right before your shoulders, thats another sensitive spot to hit, and will also hinder their attacking ability.

The goal of a fight should be to disable your opponent and neutralize the threat. If you weaken their arms and then knock them to the ground with a hard kick to the upper part of their calves, you pretty much don't have to worry about getting hurt anymore, unless their super tough or something.

Some of you might think its useless to learn these spots, but if you can train yourself to instinctively strike at these areas, it would be a great advantage in a fight.

Also, to knock someone down, you want to strike upwards near their chest area, or attack them at the legs to knock them off balance, so either high or low.

Flexibility, speed, balance, accuracy, and endurance are more valuable in fighting than strength. Of course, you should have SOME strength, but there will always be an opponent bigger and stronger than you.

[FAZEone]

I think you can cause more pain hitting people in the face (eyes, nose, jaw, mouth, ears) than by hitting them in the upper body area. Kick to the stomach or head no good? Maybe a hard knee to the solar plexis or spine. A kick to the knee hurts like a bitch, and a kick with the shin near your sides and ribs area hurts too.