Console Charts

[DoctaD]

Well, the age old question (the current age being when consoles became popular) here is what console do you prefer? Which would you suggest your friend to get with the money he found in that guys car? :P

Im afraid Im gonna have to stick with the trusty old PS2... even though mine is fucked and doesnt play DVDs any more. It's due to the range of titles available more than anything else.

[kbk]

I've got a PS2 and am looking forward to getting a PSP those things kick ass.

[Stone]

XBox... There are better games available, and I love the controller.

[kbk]

The controller is one of the reasons I don't have an Xbox, the PS2 controller is so much easier to navigate.

[Stone]

ah no way! you gotta love the trigger buttons!

[DoctaD]

Everyone who owns an XBox tells me how good the controller is, but I just cant get used to it. The fact that the PS2 controler is so similar to the PS1 was definitely a good move on Sony's part.

[kbk]

The best controller design ever in my opinion was the N64, it was so easy to use. And controls were pretty much the same for every game, if you had to shoot you used Z, if you had to drive you used A, etc. The gamecube controller isn't as nice, I had a gamecube for awhile but when GTA:VC came out I got rid of it. Gamecube lacks alot of things, you can't play CDs, DVDs, or M rated games lol (that was sarcasm...).

[C.R. Ripshit]

PS2 is definitely the best, IMO. Their controllers are wonderful and you basically know all the controls of the game before you start, because Sony is just so logical like that. :wink: Also, Super Nintendo is a close second, 'cause I mean c'mon, who doesn't love Super NES??

[DoctaD]

I agree, the N64 controller pwned all!

[OsirisGuy429]

I concur, PS2/PSP Rox My Sox Off!

[Biovore]

Im going to say Xbox...

Why you ask? Well, controlers aside, XBOX has more potential so to speak. With a mod chip, you can load a pretty nice interface which turns your xbox into a HTPC. With a harddrive, and networkabilty, you can then store your movies onto your xbox, as well as stream them over the network, now thats what im talking about.

And yes, xbox controlers are ghey.

[Serix]

I like the X-Box best. And the controller actually isn't bad, once you get used to it, it's actually quite comfortable. I prefer it over the PS2 controller to be honest, though, they are both very easy to use.

The N64 controller wasn't all that great for the main reason that you had to more your entire hand to switch between the D-Pad and the joystick. Even though it wasn't used often, it's still a flaw in the design.

And to me, the X-Box simply has better hardware capabilities, and much more potentional. The quality of games available for it also par that of the PS2.

[blaksun]

The best controller design ever in my opinion was the N64, it was so easy to use. And controls were pretty much the same for every game, if you had to shoot you used Z, if you had to drive you used A, etc. The gamecube controller isn't as nice, I had a gamecube for awhile but when GTA:VC came out I got rid of it. Gamecube lacks alot of things, you can't play CDs, DVDs, or M rated games lol (that was sarcasm...).

The only stigma people who don't like the GC can come up with is complete bullshit: do you know what the most scary, gory, and complex game genre is found to be? Survival-horror. Do you know what console has most survival-horror games?
Gamefuckingcube.
Do you know what console the survival-horror genre all but started on? The Nintendo Entertainment System.

The only people who say that the GameCube is too "kiddy" are those who don't know what they're talking about. RE: 4 was supposed to fuck ALL their shit up, but it hasn't done that good a job, for some reason. RE: 4 is an amazing fantabulouslyfantastic game.

The GC is my favourite.

v.v

[DoctaD]

I have a GC... I only bought it cos of the Zelda collectors disk :D

I still play Super Smash Bros when Im bored though.

[blaksun]

Yar. GC has all the classics - Nintendo games are classic, since they were pretty first-y - and the best multiplayer game: Super Smash Brothers Melee.

The controller is simple. It's not good for fighting games, but of them all, it is the most sturdy controller.
The GC is the most sturdy console, too.

v.v

[kbk]

I plan on buying an N64 sometime soon when I have money, I can't think of a time when I had more fun than when I was playing goldeneye (yes that is sad...prolly the thing that comes closest would be 4wheeling or making and detonating AP). I don't much care for survival-horror games, they don't really spark my interest much.

[DoctaD]

Mario Kart 64 is one of the best multiplayer racing games ever! Goldeneye is pretty awesome too, and Perfect Dark... and, of course, Ocarina of Time is THE greatest game of all time!

[OsirisGuy429]

Here's a thought.. want a classic? Play the actual, I still have my Sega Genisis hooked up to the TV in my room.

Nintendo is behind in innovation. They spent around 5 years is it? developing the DS, only for Sony's PSP to rape the shitty piece of plastic Nintendo so preciously hoped to end it's misery of sucking. And they're still working on some of the software for the DS to live up to it's potential.

GameCube may have your favorite series, but also look at Donkey Conga... It is aimed towards kids, just because one of the bloodiest games is for GC doesn't make it the supreme of the systems. They must be about 100 games out for GameCube right now in stores, 5 with the title Mario in it and 3 with Donkey, plus a few others that are offshoots of each other. Worst graphics by far and the controller is just as bulky. The GameCub is less of a system and more of a toliet, mainly since people just like to crap on it.

XBox has thier hardrive, which can be earesed with the slightest of intention, power failure to the system due to storms for example. The graphics are amazing though, controller sucks and the accessories to go with it lack behind Sony. They should also be working on anew system. People that like Xbox are the same people who like playing games on the computer, not that their is anything wrong with that, not at all. But XBox is just a hardrive of a computer to me.

But GameCube is a joke.

[kbk]

Sega kicks ass too! Sonic the Hedgehog..haha. NES was actually pretty decent too, duck hunter, mario bros, donkey kong, it had it all.

[DoctaD]

IMHO Nintendo is where the playability is at! It's a lot harder to get bored with Nintendo games as opposed to a LOT of others.

[C.R. Ripshit]

Most of the games are more simple, that's why. Simplicity is the best.

[~D-Boy~]

Playstation all the way, I was one of the 1st ppl in Cork"SAD I KNOW" to get a playstation and playstation2, And i'll forever be a playstation man, But i like the X-box though, My housemate has one and i rarely play it but a good game of pro evo or Need for speed. but My favourite game of all time was on the N64, Killer Instinct, Nuff said, Hearing UUUllllttttrrraaaaaaa kiiilllllllllllll when u were Fulgore, Made me do a sex wee.



Kelly

[Stone]

The XBox actually has two controllers, the first one sucked, one of the worst controllers ever, but the new one is brilliant.

[blaksun]

Nintendo is behind in innovation. They spent around 5 years is it? developing the DS, only for Sony's PSP to rape the shitty piece of plastic Nintendo so preciously hoped to end it's misery of sucking. And they're still working on some of the software for the DS to live up to it's potential.


Are you kidding me? The PSP wasn't in any way innovative or unique or revolutionary - it was Sony making the PlayStation portable, which isn't even that great a feat, since the PlayStation isn't a good console AT ALL.
The DS, however, is like everything else Nintendo has done throughout their career - completely fucked up and a complete revolution.
A two-screened handheld, with the bottom one touch-sensative? NO one else would've done that. Nintendo is always on the forefront of revolutionary gameplay.
Just look at their games: everything about them is crazy and new. Paper Mario? Microsoft or Sony never would've done anything like that.
Granted, not all revolutionary games are good, and a lot of totally unoriginal games ARE good, but all Sony has in respects of uniqueness is Katamari Damacy. XBox has a bunch of good games, but nothing crazy or unique.


GameCube may have your favorite series, but also look at Donkey Conga... It is aimed towards kids, just because one of the bloodiest games is for GC doesn't make it the supreme of the systems. They must be about 100 games out for GameCube right now in stores, 5 with the title Mario in it and 3 with Donkey, plus a few others that are offshoots of each other. Worst graphics by far and the controller is just as bulky. The GameCub is less of a system and more of a toliet, mainly since people just like to crap on it.
It's a demographic. Mario and Donkey Kong games may look like they are designed for children, but just because Nintendo feels no need to fill their games with blood and gore and hide a crappy game with pretty graphics that doesn't mean that the games are aimed solely at children. There is this thing called "playability" and "a fun game." It means a game that can be played because it's fun without being filled with needless violence, creative and not burdened with excessively show-y graphics.
As for the graphics: what the fuck? Look at the screen shots of any cross-console game, and say that again.
Let's take the latest game appearing on all three consoles - Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. A good game. I made the mistake of renting it for the PS2, though.
Xbpx screenshot (http://gamescreenshots.gamesurf.tiscali.it/gallery/data/1426/6chaos_theory_43.jpg).
Do you see any jagged edges on that? No. XBox has the best graphics, yes, and it is the most powerful console out right now, I will admit.
GameCube screenshot (http://cubemedia.gamespy.com/cube/image/article/580/580051/tom-clancys-splinter-cell-chaos-theory-20050114034459416.jpg).
Again, hardly any jagged edges. The light looks clean and balanced.
PS2 Screenshot (http://www.gamersmark.com/miscimages/media/1062/11050449752.jpg).
Wow, that looks like complete shit. Why the hell did I rent the PS2 version? :(
Chaos Theory on the PS2 has awful loading times, too, while the GameCube is notorious for no loading, or very short loading.
I think I've made my point with that.

As for the controller - it's all a matter of prefrence and individual shaping of the hand. Most people don't like the XBox controller because it is ginormously hugely big - I saw a picture of an XBox controller on top of one of the new, smaller PS2's: they were the same damn size - and the PS2 controller isn't really that bad. Just flimsy.
However, the GameCube controller is simple, the buttons are big, it's easy to use, etc etc. Not good for fighting games, yeah, but that's not the only game out there.


XBox has thier hardrive, which can be earesed with the slightest of intention, power failure to the system due to storms for example. The graphics are amazing though, controller sucks and the accessories to go with it lack behind Sony. They should also be working on anew system. People that like Xbox are the same people who like playing games on the computer, not that their is anything wrong with that, not at all. But XBox is just a hardrive of a computer to me.

But GameCube is a joke.

Yeah, the Xbox really is a powerful gaming console. Muuuch better than the PS2, and I can admit that it is more powerful than the GameCube, but the GC is second.
Maybe Nintendo did make a mistake by making their games too kiddy, but fuck, kiddy games can be fun. The only people who don't like the GC because it's too "kiddy" are the people who play only bloody games. The people who play GTA and go out to shoot hookers.
Faggots, in other words.

By the by, in case you haven't fucking noticed, the PS3, the Xbox 360 and the Nintendo Revolutions (it's something like that. I can't remember exactly.) are going to all be out by the end of the year.
Nintendo said that Sony and Microsoft are pushing to release the next gen consoles too early, and I must agree. There are still quite a few things that can be done with the current generation of consoles.

But that's for another thread.

v.v

[Stone]

blaksun, in my opinion that is the most intelligent post I have ever seen from you. I agree 100%. I'm studying Computer Game Desgin & Development in college, and am working on my end of year assignment at the moment (in between posting on Rorta). We have to create an original game (any platform, any genre). I decided to take Nintendo (and to a lesser extent, Sega) as inspiriation. In my game description document: "This is a game which does not take itself seriously, something too many games these days are guilty of. Some of the best games ever were cartoonish and rife with silliness, Super Mario, Donkey Kong Country and Sonic the Hedgehog for example. They were completely original and so much fun. This game tries to bring back the silly fun that was left behind when Sony (and to a lesser extent Microsoft) began their domination of the market."

Although I have never owned an N64, I still think it is one of the best consoles ever. The only reason Sony was able to beat it into submission with the PSX was because it was Sony! The name is respected and the ca$h for advertising flows. They are so fucking huge! They let everybody and anybody develop for the PSX, flooding the market with some of the worst games to ever to be made. Nintendo on the other hand, had strict quality control, leaving only games that they approved good enough to be allowed. Think properly about it though, the best games of the time on either console... N64 -> Mario64, MarioKart64, Diddy Kong Racing, GoldenEye, Zelda64, ISS64... All some of the most popular games of all time... What are the PSX's best games? Metal Gear Solid, GTA, umm, any more? An endless supply of EA sports shit?
Read up on what the Nintendo Revolution can do, the Xenon can do, and the PS3 can do... Come back to me and say that "Nintendo is behind in innovation"...

[Biovore]

http://interactive.usc.edu/members/hyang/ConsoleSales.jpg

Nuff said...

[Serix]

Revolutionary gameplay? Nintendo? That's all in the past for a while now. Nintendo lost it's title of "revolutionary" after Nintendo 64.

Wow, the DS has two screens, a touch sensitive. That in no way makes it a GOOD handheld. Hell, IBM makes biometric features, that doesn't mean another company doesn't make BETTER computers. Revolutionary fails to equal good.

The PSP, on the other hand, is a great piece of hardware. While it doesn't hold the "revolutionary" features of the DS, it does have features which make it far better. The abilities to watch and store DVDs, music videos, games, etc. This is what makes the PSP look down upon the DS, and the rest of the world, too.

True, the DS would have been a decent handheld before the unvieling of the PSP, in comparison to what we're used to, like the Gameboy series. However, with Sony moving into the market, they're simply going to push Nintendo out. Sony simply has superior ideas, backed with superior products.

And yes, the XBox is really little more than a harddrive in a console, but I still love it. XD


EDIT: Just realized I went off on a rant without making a point I wanted to in the beginning. It is true that the touch-screen of the DS is a revoluationary feature, unprecendented by what we have seen in both console features and handheld features alike. However, the feature is basically useless in both gaming worlds. The only reason Nintendo probably made such a feature is to say "Hey! Look at what we can do!"

[blaksun]

Revolutionary gameplay? Nintendo? That's all in the past for a while now. Nintendo lost it's title of "revolutionary" after Nintendo 64.

Wow, the DS has two screens, a touch sensitive. That in no way makes it a GOOD handheld. Hell, IBM makes biometric features, that doesn't mean another company doesn't make BETTER computers. Revolutionary fails to equal good.

The PSP, on the other hand, is a great piece of hardware. While it doesn't hold the "revolutionary" features of the DS, it does have features which make it far better. The abilities to watch and store DVDs, music videos, games, etc. This is what makes the PSP look down upon the DS, and the rest of the world, too.

True, the DS would have been a decent handheld before the unvieling of the PSP, in comparison to what we're used to, like the Gameboy series. However, with Sony moving into the market, they're simply going to push Nintendo out. Sony simply has superior ideas, backed with superior products.

And yes, the XBox is really little more than a harddrive in a console, but I still love it. XD


EDIT: Just realized I went off on a rant without making a point I wanted to in the beginning. It is true that the touch-screen of the DS is a revoluationary feature, unprecendented by what we have seen in both console features and handheld features alike. However, the feature is basically useless in both gaming worlds. The only reason Nintendo probably made such a feature is to say "Hey! Look at what we can do!"

You have obviously never seen a Nintendo DS game, and are hoping that I haven't either.

v.v

[C.R. Ripshit]

Looks like the Sony company wins.

I played my friends PSP before and although I was only fortunate to play a shitty racing game that thing is amazing! The graphics are amazing and the design of it so sleek and smooth. It's just fucking cool. I'd get one if they didn't cost so much money.

[kbk]

I am getting one in a few months I hope...Hopefully by august when I go on vacation. They play MP3's! That's what I like about them, I plan on buying the console with one or 2 games and a 1gig (or 512MB) memory stick.

[Serix]

I've actually played quite a few Nintendo DS games, and they failed to impress me.

[Darth_Kevdar]

i'd have 2 say ps2 simply because there the only console still bringing out rpgs games well gamecude are 2 but not as many as the the ps2 and as 4 the xbox they shud really bring out more rpg games

[Serix]

Yeah, I agree with you there, Kevdar. The X-Box is definitely lacking in the RPG section. Not in the quality of their RPGs, but the quantity.

[Stone]

Revolutionary gameplay? Nintendo? That's all in the past for a while now. Nintendo lost it's title of "revolutionary" after Nintendo 64.


I wasn't saying that Nintendo are Revolutionary, thier next console is called the Revolution! That's why I said 'read up on the Nintendo Revolution'.

Anyway, if you only care for specs, then here's the most commonly believed that I've seen across the 'net.

"Revolution will contain four 2.5GHz G5-class IBM PowerPC processors, each with 128KB of L1 cache and 512KB of L2. 512MBs of RAM. ATI's contribution is a dual-core RN520 chip [each core is a 2.5Ghz G5], with 128MB GDDR3 RAM. A 15GB HDD. Has 802.11g functionality. A PPU with 32MB DDR RAM"
*Rumoured specs*

What is confirmed though is:

the controllers have pressure sensitive grips (to sense stuff such as stress in the player, etc)
the controllers have gyroscopes
the controllers are wireless
the Revolution features very advanced voice recognition technology
the Revolution has a camera that can [among other things] detect pupil dilation in the player


If ^that^ isn't revolutionary though, what is?

[Serix]

Er, sorry, miscommunication, I should have directed whom I was talking to, or at least quoted to what I was responding to. I was referring to Blaksun, not you, Stone.

[blaksun]

nintendo rapes video games with every single thing it does; if you deny this, you're an idiot not worth listening to.