Ak-47 vs RPK

[LadyMakayla]

Which weapon do you prefer? The Ak-47 or the RPK?

I'd have to go with the Ak-47.

[Nocturnal]

An RPK is essentially an AK47. And RPK is just the light machine gun version of the AK. It has a longer heavier barrel, heavier receiver, and a different stock along with some other minor differences mainly having to do with the ability to sustain heavy fire for a longer period of time.

As far as having a preference of one over the other, it depends on what the purpose of the weapon is. For a light support weapon, the RPK hands down because that is the designated purpose. For an assault rifle, the AK, as that is exactly what it is.

[torcher]

RPKS

[crazy white guy]

I think AK because its more recognizable. I have never handled the RPK and I have only ever held an AK for a few seconds. I have fired neither. I think having a kalashnikov with composite grips and armalite rails would be much more intimidating than any RPK with any furniture.

[torcher]

CWG the only real difference someone would notice if you were sticking it in their back or face would maybe be the length. otherwise its all in the internals. im sure the RPK can be modded to accept many of the same types of stocks that the AK-47 has.

[Nocturnal]

I wouldn't be surprised if the stocks are interchangeable. I've seen RPK stocks on AKs. Many of the parts are identical, so stocks may interchange as well.

Most people who would recognize an AK would assume an RPK is an AK. Most people aren't familiar enough to recognize the longer barrel and realize that it's a different gun.

An RPK with composite grips and rails would look just like an AK with the same furniture, only longer. I don't think that would make any difference in the intimidation ("tacticool") factor.

[DJ Poppinfresh]

I personally perfer AKs simply because they are durable.

And if the dirty terrorists can afford them, so can I.

[No, I'm not a patriot, before you flame me.]

[Th0r]

Wierd. I thought we had an AK discussion thread [No not the favourite assault rifle thread]...

Having only got near to shooting the AK I must say I prefer that.

[True Sounds]

If there is a combination weapon out there that fires either the 7.62x39 or the 7.62x54R as well as a .223 round ?

[Nocturnal]

No. A .223 is only 5.56mm. A 7.62X51 also known as 7.62 NATO is the same as a .308 Winchester. Anything that fires one will fire the other.

I'm not sure what you have in mind. Maybe you're thinking of the AK-47 and AK-74. The AK-74 is similar to the AK-47 but chambered in 5.45X39 instead of 7.62X39

Unless you're talking about a true combination weapon like an over-under or side-by-side. I highly doubt that would exist as there would be no purpose for it whatsoever.

The only thing of that sort that I've seen is a break action shotgun/rifle combination. Anything else I'm familiar with would be a grenade launcher or shotgun mounted on another weapon.

[.VX]

Wierd. I thought we had an AK discussion thread [No not the favourite assault rifle thread]...

Having only got near to shooting the AK I must say I prefer that.

You mean the one that you started?

[Th0r]

I wasn't referring to the Manual thread.

[.VX]

Oh, well then no, I don't think we do.

[Micro]

RPK ftw! Everything that AK has + bigger barrel and lasts abuse longer.
Russians claim that it runs better if there is a hand full of sand inside :)

[hamster]

the original question has no logic behind it

[Th0r]

the original question has no logic behind it

Quite.

I am fairly certain Miss. 1337 here has never even seen an AK-47 or for that matter an RPK.

Let alone fired one...

[Acid44]

neither man, gimme a silenced glock and some flashbangs over those any day :)

the ak is better for the simple fact that you can get them anywhere and cheap, plus as mentioned they can go through hell

[gbu-36]

No. A .223 is only 5.56mm. A 7.62X51 also known as 7.62 NATO is the same as a .308 Winchester. Anything that fires one will fire the other.

This is not correct, many Civilian weapons will not fire (reliably) the military equivilent of a cartridge they have a chambering for, so a rifle that is chambered in 5.56 NATO will fire .223 remington, but a rifle chambered for .223 remington many times will have issues firing 5.56 NATO, this is usually an issue of primer hardness and a very small difference in case dimensions but I digress. I have seen it go both ways though, in my CETME wwb .308 Winchester will not run through it no matter how hard I try, but surpluse 7.62x51 will, and in my old Mini-14 I could run .223 rem though it with no problem but if I loaded up a magazine with some LC ss109 5.56x39 than I'd be dead in the water


As for a combination weapon they do exist but you have to switch out parts of your upper receiver and lower receiver (To be able to have a chamber/barrell/mag well that will work with whatever kind of ammunition your shooting). Personally I think its a cool idea, but something just makes me feel dirty when I see a franken AR that takes AK mags *shudder*

Also, I had completely forgotten (Sorry I'm out of it and in a bit of pain due to a tooth extraction) there was a revolver that was purported to be able to fire different types of cartridges without switching things around. Its called the Medusa http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Revolvers/Medusa_Model_47.htm I've wanted one for years but so far haven't found one =(

[Micro]

That Medusa I one awesome revolver.
21 types of ammunition (in reality closer to 100). Too bad that the feds made them put in a abnormal rifling to make it stand out. Just imagine feds when they find a body with holes from 9mm, .38 and .357, there must have been THREE KILLERS. :P

[Th0r]

neither man, gimme a silenced glock and some flashbangs over those any day :)


The real world isn't like Counter Strike.

Just imagine feds when they find a body with holes from 9mm, .38 and .357, there must have been THREE KILLERS. :P

You've seen a Fat Tony Killing from the Simpsons... Right..?

[Acid44]

The real world isn't like Counter Strike.

yeah i know, i just like the ninja tactics better...

[gbu-36]

Ninja Tactics you say ? Do you mean "Mall Ninja Tactics" ?!

http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

[Micro]

You've seen a Fat Tony Killing from the Simpsons... Right..?

Actually I haven't seen it.

[crazy white guy]

I held an AK when I was in Europe. I had the opportunity to buy one but I didn't have enough money nor ability to get it back home. I should have taken pictures with the guy selling them or something like that.

[Th0r]

CWG... What's the price for an AK in Europe?

I'm keen to know as theoretically I could get one back home.

[Micro]

Yeah tell us!

I have held a AK once, it was owned by one of my relatives.
It was a cheap ass chinese Norinco, said that they ware able to buy them for 250eur once, leagally of cource.

[hamster]

buying guns legally is like purchasing legit software
you just end up setting up barriers for yourself

[gbu-36]

buying guns legally is like purchasing legit software
you just end up setting up barriers for yourself

Not in the states, especially states where FTF (Face To Face, no paperwork) purchases are legal. But if worse comes to worse and they come and ask about my guns that I've purchased through FFL's I'll just tell them about the tragic boating accident I had :tongue1:

[crazy white guy]

When I was in Poland I visited two places where one could purchase Kalashnikov. One was a sporting store in sczecein, Another was a guy selling clothes and basic tools and sporting goods out of his market stand. If you asked him, he would bring you into the back of his stand and open the back doors of his van. On the wide wall were two AK's One looked like it was new out of box and the other looked like it was put through a war and then re-finished. The lesser quality one was 380 zt. which is about 200 CDN dollars. My polish is really shitty so i couldnt ask how much the other one was. In the sporting store The prices were 350$ CDN ish , That was the cheaper of the three I saw just in the racks. Im sure if I could ask they would have given me a better price. I also saw a flyer that stated that their price was equal to about 600$ CDN so that should be added into the average.

If you want to go and get one, make sure you read up on your basic polish and get a polish handbook to find your way to the store and then a beginners gun buying guide in polish so you can point out exactly what your looking for.

I would suggest going to the Ukraine or Russia, you will have a better chance of finding one and it will probably be cheaper. On a second thought, it wouldn't be as good to go to Russia because of the drama going on there.

[Th0r]

For me going to the Ukraine or to Russia frankly isn't feasible for the sake of an AK-47.

However I have Polish Associates so getting an illegal gun from Poland is feasible.

It's a sad state of affairs when you have to get a gun from another country because your country prohibits them.

[True Sounds]

http://dc23.4shared.com/img/66832626/2a6735fb/Munitions_-_Firearms_-_Blueprint_-_AK-47_Assault_Rifle_Receiver.pdf (http://www.4shared.com/file/66832626/2a6735fb/Munitions_-_Firearms_-_Blueprint_-_AK-47_Assault_Rifle_Receiver.html)
Here's an idea make a few dozen and share with your friends.Additionally you may (perhaps) make it three point-five inches longer to make an Rpk.