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True Sounds
28th September 2008, 06:09 PM
Does anyone here have the process for making this?
I have one list but it's info seems a little bogus and dubious.
death11284
29th September 2008, 05:22 AM
This all depends, can you get ahold of straight urea? If so it's as simple as adding highly concentrated urea, or pure urea to nitric acid (dilute, or potent either way) generally an excess of nitric will produce the best results. I mean urea nitrate is simply a urea molecule with a nitrate group added to it. Generally to make something go from compound -> compountnitrate you just add nitric acid.
However, this synthesis doesn't make too much sense chemically to me...then again I don't honestly understand the structure of urea nitrate.
The urea is diaminalmethanol so here is the structure to begin with
O
|| (the oxygen is bound to the carbon obviously, it won't let me do that on here for some reason.)
NH2-C-NH2
the nitric acid is HNO3
according to quite a few google sources urea nitrate is
OH(-) NO3+ (the OH is bound to the carbon...the nitrate group is how it should be)
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NH2-C-NH2
Now this structure really makes no sense to me... The HNO3 is bound to it by the H, forming the hydroxide molecule. The nitrate molecule is shown as an adduct ion I believe the term is. Apparently not much is known about how the hell that NO3 works but it *does* work. I think it is held there by some kind of electrical bond I don't feel like researching. I'm pretty sure it's not "truly" a urea nitrate, but that's the structure of the explosive.
Dvlad
11th October 2008, 07:33 AM
Basically, all you need to do is boil down 10 cups of urine to 1/10th of it's original volume, filter it, and add 1/3 cup of nitric acid to the filtered urine. Then let it stand for an hour, filter it again and collect the crystals. Rinse them off, and then let dry.
TM 31-210 Improvised Munitions Handbook, Headquarters, Department of the Army, 1969
Micro
14th October 2008, 08:31 PM
TM 31-210 Improvised Munitions Handbook, Headquarters, Department of the Army, 1969
Thats hilarious stuff. Stuff in it might work, but poorly. If one is into explosives, KIPE (Kitchen Improvised Plastic Explosives" could be a good book.
If possible get the collection which has all the Kitcen Improvised Explosives books, (eg KIPE, KIPE2, KIBC and KIFE) Scribd.com is a good place to start.
But the old improvised munitions book is just out dated.
death11284
15th October 2008, 03:58 AM
Actually there is some pretty good stuff in there, highly detailed, picture guides etc. Something that someone with little knowledge of explosives would find just great.
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