TNP

[kbk]

I tried TNP for the first time recently, it seems to have worked, I will have pics soon..Anyone else have any experience with this?

[THErAPIST]

I do, but that was a long time ago. dont let it touch your skin. it's poisonous, and it stains. it used to be used as a dye waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day (from what I've read anyway). the brisancy of TNP is pretty good, so it works well for blowing things appart. I always used Nitrocellulose though. the velocity was only a few hundred m/s slower, and the brisancy wasnt as high, but it was easier and safer to make and it worked just as well in most instances when i used it.

In short its a good explosive with only a few drawbacks, but as long as you can look past the toxicity and the fact that it stains, youre good. it's cheap enough to produce

[kbk]

It did stain my hands a bit, I didn't know that TNP eats through latex and the whole time I did the synth I had latex gloves on...O well, it still worked so I guess it's not the end of the world if my hands are yellow for a few weeks.

[fuCKYou]

kbk, even though i don't even remember touching it when i was at your house i have some(3-4) big yellow stains on my hands.

[kbk]

Mine are more numerous but they are pretty small, even if you touched that ice water that was in that bucket you would get stains by the way.

[THErAPIST]

use the purple colored gloves. the purple ones USUALLY are more chemical resistant. read the box ont eh gloves to make sure htough. And i'll take this time to mention that the military stopped using it because it was toxic. not a healthy thing at all when the military doesnt use it because of it's toxicity...

[DREX]

There was morethen one reason the fact that it forms primary salts was also why it was discontinued. That and alterneatives where avalible where as before there was less alternatives.

[THErAPIST]

well this is true. c-3 was thrown to the wind when RDX became more available and C-4 came into being. PETN also replaced its use in blasting caps

I was just stating the toxicity because they got the stuff on their hands..

Yes, it does create sensitive primary salts when it comes into contact with metals for a time. I've thought about creating these salts on purpose, but as I don't have a great lab setup, I don't have enough control over the experiment to do it. I value my limbs :p

[Douchermann]

HAHAHAHA, i never thought of it being toxic, i got some of the water in my mouth once. Man does that taste nasty. I still think you can try to make the unstable salts, just place a grain of salt worth on a steel plate and see what happens, then after a day or so, wack it with a hammer (very lightly to test it)

[kbk]

Apparently it is also carcinogenic too..So, I guess I'll be getting cancer sometime in the future..

[Douchermann]

Well lots of things are carcinogenic, hell cigarettes are carcinogenic and everyone I know (that is really old) hasn't been diagnosed with lung cancer yet. Hopefully by the time cancer rolls around from playing with TNP, they'll have a cure, or kemo will be improved. It actually only makes those unstable salts if its alloud to corrode the metal first.

[W4RGASM]

Just being in contact with a metal will form the salts eventually (excluding autopassivating metals like Al), however presence of moisture greatly increases reaction rates.

[Arbit3r]

TNP can result in the creation of unstable picrate salts, so you really need to be careful. I would recommend ammonium picrate instead. Just proceed as normal, but put the picric acid crystals into a glass container and dissolve them in a great quantity of hot water. Add clear household ammonia in excess, and allow the excess ammonia to evaporate. The powder remaining should be ammonium picrate.

WARNING: I will not be held responsible for anything you do to yourself or others. Do your own research before attempting anything you read here.

[W4RGASM]

Yeah, nice asshole, great work. Instead of bothering to calc it out you just decided to reccomend people add it in excess, without realising that TNP doens't take real kindly to alkaline conditions, on the order of blowing up without warning. You need to do a displacement from an ammonium and picrate salt, not jsut mix the two and expect it to tun out all right.