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True Sounds
11th October 2008, 09:39 PM
Aluminum filings and carbon tetrachloride. that's it for now.:bye:
Carbon-Tet Explosive by the Jolly Roger

A moist explosive mixture can be made from fine aluminum powder combined
with carbon tetrachloride or tetrachloroethylene. This explosive can be
detonated with a blasting cap.

Material Required Source
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Fine aluminum bronzing powder Paint store
Carbon Tetrachloride Pharmacy, or fire
or extinguisher fluid
tetrachloroethylene Dry cleaners, pharmacy
Stirring rod (wood)
Mixing container (bowl, bucket, etc.)
Measuring container (cup, tablespoon, etc.)
Storage container (jar, can, etc.)
Blasting cap
Pipe, can or jar

Procedure:
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1) Measure out two parts aluminum powder to one part carbon tetrachloride or
tetrachlorethylene liquid into mixing container, adding liquid to powder
while stirring with the wooden rod.
2) Stir until the mixture becomes the consistency of honey syrup.

CAUTION: Fumes from the liquid are dangerous and should not be inhaled.

3) Store explosive in a jar or similar water proof container until ready to
use. The liquid in the mixture evaporates quickly when not confined.

NOTE: Mixture will detonate in this manner for a period of 72 hours.

How to Use:
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1) Pour this mixture into an iron or steel pipe which has an end cap threaded
on one end. If a pipe is not available, you may use a dry tin can or glass
jar.
2) Insert blasting cap just beneath the surface of the explosive mix.

NOTE: Confining the open end of the container will add to the effectiveness
of the explosive.

Compiled by: Exodus Recompiled By : True Sounds

death11284
11th October 2008, 11:50 PM
How might one obtain said carbon tetrachloride? Generally speaking if you post an explosive synth you post an OTC method. The method I'm going to go over is rather complicated, and VERY dangerous.

The only method I could think of would be taking chloroform and bubbling chlorine gas through this. This would be a horrific process in my opinion, because you'd have to contain the Cl gas. Another way I found on google would be to react methane and chlorine...

You would have to have a 4 chamber design for this, chlorine and methane in seperate chambers, pushed into a middle chamber, this would push the rapidly condensing gaseous CCl4 (carbon tetrachloride) into the other chamber, where you would get near-pure CCl4.

Problems:
A) Getting the chlorine gas into there
This could probably be solved by filling the "Chlorine gas chamber" with hydrochloric (muriatic acid 31.37% concentration) acid. You would have an oxygen tank hooked up to this chamber for a dual purpose. First, it would keep the chlorine gas flowing into the main chamber. Second, it would react with the HCl in the following reaction
4HCl + O2 --> 2Cl2 + 2H2O
So the chlroine would have 2 chambers, that would HAVE to be air tight. Hydrochloric acid in the chamber closest to the main chamber, and oxygen in the chamber behind that one, the oxygen will keep it from backing up into that chamber.

B) Keeping water out of the main chamber
This can be solved simply by having the main chamber lead into a condensor, which would basically be a chamber sunk in a salt-ice bath. Hopefully, most of the water from the hydrochloric acid reaction would condense into the main chamber, whereas the CCl4 would condense in the condensing chamber.

C) Methane
Good luck, I don't know jack shit about this part, I know you can produce methanol from methane, so I assume there is a reverse reaction. At the moment I don't know this reaction.
Oh and also, the methane could flow back into the methane chamber...I have no clue how to setup that part.

Here is a horrible drawing of the distillation setup, you get the picture.
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setupwy5.png

Basically this is a really complicated explosive to make OTC...and I haven't even mentioned the temperatures for the chambers.

EDIT: The reason to have chambers separating the HCl and O2 is that the reaction produces water as a by-product. This way only a bit can go into the HCl chamber at a time, so the water shouldn't condense until the main chamber.

Hobbit Porn
17th October 2008, 12:04 PM
This link http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/list?tbl=TblChemicals&alpha=A is a database that allows you to search by chemical to find household products that contain it.

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=16009018 is a result for CCl4

It used to be used as home dry cleaning fluid. I remember seeing it when I was younger. According to wiki it has been phased out due to health problems associated with it.

True Sounds : Have you actually successfully used this as an explosive? I'm sorry, but I'm always skeptical when I see a copy paste from a txt file from the 90's.

Even if the original CCL4 method worked, I'm not sure if tetrachloroethene would.

I get the feeling that the tetrachloroethene is mentioned as an alternative because it is the chemical that replaced CCL4 as dry cleaning fluid.

Th0r
17th October 2008, 07:06 PM
Happy posting Hobbit Porn, I've seen your posts on DRO as well as RS!

The link you posted is extremely useful but you posted it incorrectly so I changed it for you!