London Bombings

[DoctaD]

On behalf of Rorta, I want to condemn the recent bombs in London.

Terrorism is supposed to be aimed towards striking fear into the hearts and minds of the public, not aimless murder... am I wrong?

Blowing up busses and trains isnt going to achieve anything... in Britain, the tabloids are making a constant mockery of the security of some of our most "prized" bulldings, holding the likes of the fuckin' stupid monarchy. Why not blow them to hell? Sure, it would take a lot more planning, but it would inflict fear into the public while not really doing THAT much damage... fuckin' sand niggers.

The sand niggers comment was a personal view of DoctaD and not of Rorta... DoctaD can say what he wants cos he pwns and thats that.

[Armalite]

First reply. Pwned.

[Zbot]

And so continues and endless cycle of violence :(. The terrorist bite, we bite back, the terrorists turn it into propaganda to breed more terrorists, and they attack, we attack..... it never ends.

But either way, many people were saying that it was a matter of time before London got hit by terrorists. In the end though, these terrorists are digging themselves a hole. Afterall, they're not just killing Americans and Europeans, they're killing their own people as well.

[Armalite]

Utter nonsense. I think the entire concept of terrorism is preposterous. It is a propaganda device that has been used throughout the history of warfare to whip the huddled masses into a cold, sweaty state of fear. It has always been customary to denounce the motives and methods of your enemy in order to allow the minds of your people and soldiers to consider their lives worthless. Why can't attacks such as this simply be interpreted as just that, attacks, without the "terrorist" appelation? Aside from the fact that it is often unclear what they are targeted at and who perpetrated the attacks, they are no different from Allied carpet bombing of German cities, which was denounced as terrorism by the Germans. Or bushwhackers operating for both Confederate and Union forces during the US Civil War. Do I need to mention the UK government's stance on the IRA? Assuming that we are talking about Islamic fundamentalists fighting a general Jihad against Western culture for no apparent reason in a general manner as the "terrorists," what methods of attack would be preffered? Should they politely buy up some land, form a country, and make announced attacks only on military targets? What are they going to do? Throw rocks and molotovs as the armor-plated, depleted-uranium shell firing death machines completely annihilate them? This is war. Albeit a stupid , unclear, indefinate, and possibly made-up war. The War on Terrorism. Sounds a lot like the wars in 1984. Funny how nobody even bothers to learn the names of the actual organizations responsible for such attacks, and denounce and attack them individually. Instead we apply an umbrella term and label entire cultures and nations "terrorists."

I don't know where this is going right now. I am in a semi-concious state and feel the urge to spout philosophical crap.

Incidentally, does the UK have a War on Terrorism propaganda campaign?

[Stone]

The [provisional] IRA usually only bomb political/military targets. If for some reason they don't, they always ring in a warning. this prevents civilian casualties.

The US propaganda of fear is starting to swirl around the heads of the Irish people. The US and British governments are telling the world that nobody is safe from the Islamic terrorists, and my people are lapping it all up. People are getting scared.

But... The IRA have trained in North Africa with Islamic terrorists and they have traded explosives knowledge for weapons. Why would they [Muslims] want to attack a country protected by an army they are friendly with? The thing is though, Ireland could very easily become a base for Islamic attacks on Britain. Easy access and in exchange for trading something with the IRA, they could be sheltered here. The two groups are fighting a common enemy.

[Armalite]

Whether the IRA are fucking paladins or child killers, the UK still considers them to be terrorists.

[Stone]

Of course the UK would. The British government are thier enemy. Any government who considers themselves to be 'right' and are attacked by a group, call the attackers terrorists. There are terrorist elements in the Republican side, take the Real IRA and Omagh (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/northern_ireland/latest_news/152156.stm)for instance. The problem is that the British government paints all Republicans with the same brush. They don't distinguish the difference between groups who bomb innocent civilians and groups who bomb primarily military/political establishments who also if there is a danger of civilian casualties ring in a warning.

[ComfortablyNumb]

One of the worst by-products of this recent bombing has been the American media's coverage of it -- It has been almost nothing but dumbass reporters going around worrying if America's train and subway systems are safe, they entirely shifted the perspective to America, ignoring Britain (where the attacks took place) because they figure that's not what Americans worry about (anything not in our backyard). It's disappointing, but I guess it isn't really surprising.

[Unabomber]

The british filth had it coming.

This is something the IRA should've done a long time ago.

[phoenix]

The british filth had it coming.
I don't usually respond to retarded comments such as these however most of my relatives live in London so I take personal offense to this comment.

I'm not about to wax on about politics and how the occupation of Iraq/Afghanistan by the 'Coalition of the Willing' is the reason suicide bombers are running rampant in our towns and I'm not about to argue that we brought this on ourselves.

I simply want to address this blatantly ignorant statement and let Unabomber know that if you really believe that innocent citizens deserve to be slaughtered in the most cowardly way possible because of what the government decides is right, then you truly are a waste of genetic material.

If this is just your method of winding people up to get a reaction though, good job. It looks as though you are well on your way to earning that 99.999% hate rating you spoke about in the 'Welcome...' thread.

[Stone]

Vlad... You really are an idiot... London is a cosmopolitan city, alot of the killed were'nt even British. Just like the bomb in Kusadasi in Turkey a couple of days ago killed a 21 y/o Irish girl. She never hurt the Islamic religion or went to war with an Islamic country so why the fuck should she be killed? She was a totally innocent party, and if you think it's acceptable for people like that to be killed in this manner, then I sincerily hope you are killed in the next attack on the US.

[Edit:] And I can't believe you could have the audacity to comment on what the IRA should do when you know jack-fucking-shit about them or what they stand for.

[madscientist]

One of my better friends from school is from London, she's back there this summer in fact... so fuck you.

[Unabomber]

I don't usually respond to retarded comments such as these however most of my relatives live in London so I take personal offense to this comment.

Tough luck. I don't know what you having relatives anywhere has to do with this topic.


I'm not about to wax on about politics and how the occupation of Iraq/Afghanistan by the 'Coalition of the Willing' is the reason suicide bombers are running rampant in our towns and I'm not about to argue that we brought this on ourselves.

I am here assuming it was Al-Qaeda, and not the very west, who bombed London, just for the hell of it ( although it's very fishy).

1) Tony Blair was re-elected by the masses of british middle-classes
2) The only real motive Al-Qaeda would have for bombing Great Britain would be the same they had for bombing Spain: Get out of Iraq and/or Afghanistan. The West brings these types of attacks on itself.
3) The parasitical lifestyles of British and the great majority of all western peoples has a great impact on the suffering of arab people.


I simply want to address this blatantly ignorant statement and let Unabomber know that if you really believe that innocent citizens deserve to be slaughtered in the most cowardly way possible because of what the government decides is right, then you truly are a waste of genetic material.

Tell me, does the British government even consider the 10's of 100's of thousands of deaths caused by that clusterfuck in Iraq/Afghanistan? What do they call it, "SMART BOMBS"? Do you think innocent afghan women and children deserve to be bombed, or if they survive arrested and raped to hell in some American concentration camp, because of what their government does (which is all bullshit anyway)?

This is an all out anti-imperialist war being waged by Islam, this is a national-liberation war and they are bringing the fight to western turf. The westerner's treat the Arab peoples like dogshit, why should they care about the treatment of Western people?


If this is just your method of winding people up to get a reaction though, good job. It looks as though you are well on your way to earning that 99.999% hate rating you spoke about in the 'Welcome...' thread.[/Quuote]


Ha Ha Ha Ha.

[Quote] Vlad... You really are an idiot... London is a cosmopolitan city, alot of the killed were'nt even British. Just like the bomb in Kusadasi in Turkey a couple of days ago killed a 21 y/o Irish girl. She never hurt the Islamic religion or went to war with an Islamic country so why the fuck should she be killed? She was a totally innocent party, and if you think it's acceptable for people like that to be killed in this manner, then I sincerily hope you are killed in the next attack on the US.

Tell this sob story somewhere else. The west was the one that DECLARED war, do not blame Arab's and Islamists for bringing the war the western governments started to your turf.

If I did in the next attack on America, I would certainly understand. Even though I am actively trying to resisted the ZOG government and the monopoly capitalist/imperial system. To tell you the truth I don't know who's going to kill me first: The FBI or the imaginary "terrorist" threat. I've had the feds at my house recently for nothing other than having a different opinion on things. I plan on moving away soon where I can live in piece and make gains in the anti-west movement.

[madscientist]

If you claimed to be for the people, you would be for everyone waging war on governments, not for waging war on each other. Halfass fake fucking commie.

[Unabomber]

If you claimed to be for the people, you would be for everyone waging war on governments, not for waging war on each other. Halfass fake fucking commie.

I support collective ownership and communist economics but I am more of a third positionist socially, IE a narrow nationalist who doesn't care about westerners and wants to see the west and everything about it destroyed.

[madscientist]

Alright, how about I strap you to your Western computer and toss you in a furnace?

[DoctaD]

Or your western education, and comfortable western way of life... your ideals are bullshit when you live in a first world country, enjoying the resources which are being drained from those you are trying to stand up for.

Vlad, preach your bullshit when you have more experience than reading a few books.

[Biovore]

Get the fuck off my westeren Internet.

Its sorta an irony, he spreads his want to destroy everything western, while he still uses it.

[Stone]

The Western world did not start any fucking war with Islam. The US declared war on certain groups and countries and Britain and others followed. That is NOT the western world. That is a few countries. And, they did NOT declare war on Islam. And, not all Muslims want to destroy the western world. I have a Turkish muslim uncle, and my best friend is Arabic (along with many other friends, all from Kuwait). I also have a Somalian muslim friend, and none of these muslims want to destroy the Western world in any fucking way.

And, what suffering exactly does the western world inflict on the arabic people? Stopping them from being slaughtered by an insane dictator? I didn't support the war on Iraq, but there's nothing that I or the Iraqi people could do about it. At least there was some good that came out of it though, even if it does serve the US's imperialist expansion program. If Iraq does end up supporting the US, the people won't be suffering, they'll be living normal peaceful lives, just like the Saudi's, Kuwaiti's, etc.

Tell this sob story somewhere else. The west was the one that DECLARED war, do not blame Arab's and Islamists for bringing the war the western governments started to your turf.

Read my post again... That bomb was in TURKEY, not a western country. And it killed people who had no allegiance to a country or government who were at war. Again, the west did not declare war, not Ireland anyway. Infact, every year, Irieland takes hundreds of arabic stundents into our universties to study subjects such as medicene, etc. That improves the Arabs way of life.

If I did in the next attack on America, I would certainly understand. Even though I am actively trying to resisted the ZOG government and the monopoly capitalist/imperial system. To tell you the truth I don't know who's going to kill me first: The FBI or the imaginary "terrorist" threat.
I really don't think that you would understand, you'd be dead. How about if you were out of town, and a nuke went off and killed everybody you love. You would be left on your own to fend for yourself. Some kid with a twisted view on world politics, nothing left in the world because some terrorists killed all your innocent family. You still gonna support Al-Qaida then? You're a fucking retard. And I seriously doubt the FBI are going to bump off some kid who has turned to communism because he's unhappy with the governments way of doing things. They have real threats to counter...

[SayItAintSo014]

I support collective ownership and communist economics but I am more of a third positionist socially, IE a narrow nationalist who doesn't care about westerners and wants to see the west and everything about it destroyed.


Hypocritical piece of shit.....
We hate you

[C.R. Ripshit]

Hypocritical piece of shit.....
We hate you

Shut up, you probably don't even know what he's talking about, not that we don't hate him but still!

[SayItAintSo014]

I probably shouldn't even respond to this, but i DID read the threads and i DO know what they're talking about. i bet YOU don't even know what they're talking about. Don't worry about my posts, just let me say what i have to say. It's called freedom of speech, and i choose to use this right.

[C.R. Ripshit]

just let me say what i have to say. It's called freedom of speech, and i choose to use this right.

same here....

[DoctaD]

Jesus, Scentless... STOP IT NOW! Any more of this childish rivalry outside of the FL will result in action being taken.

[SayItAintSo014]

Sorry, he started it.