Different Theory of Evolution

[DominoKett]

so heres a new idea i thought up. so some people believe that humans evolved from monkey. some people believed that god put people on the earch when he first created it, well how about this.
k so in my other theory of evolution post i wrote about "how could humans have evolved from monkey if monkeys are still around" that argument was put to silence by the ideology that the monkey split up. some evolved to humans in a new environment while others stayed as monkeys.
so here's the new idea. what if God put people on the earth in the beginning (i.e. adam and eve) and then so theres a population of people, but there kinda dumb cause there from way back. like they are homo sapian, as oppose to us being home sapian sapian. so then from those original home sapians the population splits up. some go on to form civilizations and evolve towards what are now modern day humans. others become nomadic and do the whole "hunter/gatherer thing in the jungle. in the jungle it would be better to be more agile, have more hair (for warmth cause theres no house), and they wouldnt be needing language too suit there lifestyle cause there not really constructing anything. so then that group evolves into monkey.
so the idea is that monkey came from homo sapians (and some in-between species) rather than the other way around, and also humans were put on earth by God

[RoundElephant]

:sad2: You have to be joking. Other then the fact that half your post was an incoherent rant, your logic has several key flaws. I don't think you understand evolution.
-Monkeys have been on Earth longer then humans, that can be proven by the fossils.
- Humans are more resourceful then monkeys there for they can survive and monkeys can't.
-The jungle is warm, there is no need for fur.
-God didn't put Adam and Eve on Earth because science has proven that theory wrong.
-People were always as intelligent, just not as knowledgeable.
-things don't just magically evolve into something, it is a series genetic mutations that either help the animal and it thrives, hurt the animal and it dies/ can't reproduce, or has no effect on the animal's life.

To be honest with you Domino, when I read this post I lost a good amount of respect for you. Stop talking about evolution because you are clearly ignorant of the topic.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

-God didn't put Adam and Eve on Earth because science has proven that theory wrong

Science also said the sun revolved around the earth and that the earth was flat.....

[DominoKett]

:sad2: You have to be joking. Other then the fact that half your post was an incoherent rant, your logic has several key flaws. I don't think you understand evolution.
-Monkeys have been on Earth longer then humans, that can be proven by the fossils.
- Humans are more resourceful then monkeys there for they can survive and monkeys can't.
-The jungle is warm, there is no need for fur.
-God didn't put Adam and Eve on Earth because science has proven that theory wrong.
-People were always as intelligent, just not as knowledgeable.
-things don't just magically evolve into something, it is a series genetic mutations that either help the animal and it thrives, hurt the animal and it dies/ can't reproduce, or has no effect on the animal's life.

To be honest with you Domino, when I read this post I lost a good amount of respect for you. Stop talking about evolution because you are clearly ignorant of the topic.

what are you talking about. do you know what a rant is? im just posing an idea. let me go over all the points you made in order

-there is no evidence of monkey being on earth earlyer, i have no idea what source you are referring to
-just because humans are more resourceful doestn mean monkeys cant survive. Hello! monkeys still exist today. if a species no longer need an attribut it will evolve/devolve away from it
-the jungle isnt always warm and the jungle is just an example. if a mammal is living in any environment where there is coldness, evolving to have hair is very plausible
-the theory of adam and eve hasnt been proven wrong, that is why many religions still exists
-people werent always intelligent, its been proven by finding old human skulls with smaller brain pans
-i dont know what direction you last point is in, it seems more like something that agrees with my idea

[Th0r]

Science also said the sun revolved around the earth and that the earth was flat.....

Eh no...

That was popular and speculated belief as opposed to science that was unproven belief and was then disproven. I remember hearing that Galileo proved that those and a whole load of other theories were wrong.

[odin_dax]

One, most people never believed the earth was flat. Hell, the Egyptians and Greek mathematicians proved it. Who was it that used stick shadows in Egypt? I forgot...

Two, science has never proved Adam and Eve didn't exist. However, this is another common mistranslations, which I have no idea why it even still exists. Adam wasn't a real person. The word from which "Adam" comes from means, simply, "man." Adam = first man, man NOT being singular. HUMANKIND.

Thirdly, keep up the thoughts, Domino. I think it's great that you can come up with theories. A little study of subjects might help avoid criticism, but there are a lot of instances in history where someone came up with crazy ideas that were proven to be true. You just have to base it on knowledge and fact.

Fourthly, I'd have to disagree that humans were always intelligent. Some people were, but some things were discovered by chance. It's a hard leap to invent something totally radical, like the wheel before it was invented, or the pen or steam-engine. We're totally capable of understanding things, intelligent or not, but to be innovative and reason is a different ballpark. Also, humans evolved to use tools. It's like using Lego's, one block upon another. Given certain conditions, bees are actually quite smart too. We can teach chimps to use sign language, another example. If all chimps in the world were taught to use sign language, overall several generations I'd imagine them getting smarter and their vocabulary increasing.

[RoundElephant]

Odin,
Humans were always as intelligent because once we reached that state i evolution there was no further need for more intelligent children. For example, look at the smartest person you personally know. Chances are he doesn't have a lot of children.

Alot of people at one time believed the Earth was flat, look at Catholic Europe hundreds of years ago, or the flat earth society today even.

Domino,
You are so ignorant. I am going to post a link leading to fact so you stop speaking out your ass.
-http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000317052241.htm Monkey fossil that is 45 million years old.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution Humans are more resourceful there fore they aren't going to devolve in to monkeys. And i know moneys stll exist today, but that doesn't prove your point at all
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle jungles are warm you have no idea what you are talking about you small child. Also in your original post you said that the humans wouldn't have shelters in the jungle. Well look at the humans living i the jungle today, they have mud huts that constitute as shelter.
-Yes it has, it is called evolution. Religions exist because they don't want to progress and deal with the truth. It is proven that the world is more then 10,000 years old also, that doesn't spell the end for religion.
-My last point is saying we wouldn't evolve into monkeys because we are perfectly adapted t the environment th way we are.

You post, and second post have shown how ignorant you are of science and history. Please do not attempt to make half assed evolution theories again, that is not until you have educated yourself.

[DominoKett]

Odin,
Humans were always as intelligent because once we reached that state i evolution there was no further need for more intelligent children. For example, look at the smartest person you personally know. Chances are he doesn't have a lot of children.

Alot of people at one time believed the Earth was flat, look at Catholic Europe hundreds of years ago, or the flat earth society today even.

Domino,
You are so ignorant. I am going to post a link leading to fact so you stop speaking out your ass.
-http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000317052241.htm Monkey fossil that is 45 million years old.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution Humans are more resourceful there fore they aren't going to devolve in to monkeys. And i know moneys stll exist today, but that doesn't prove your point at all
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle jungles are warm you have no idea what you are talking about you small child. Also in your original post you said that the humans wouldn't have shelters in the jungle. Well look at the humans living i the jungle today, they have mud huts that constitute as shelter.
-Yes it has, it is called evolution. Religions exist because they don't want to progress and deal with the truth. It is proven that the world is more then 10,000 years old also, that doesn't spell the end for religion.
-My last point is saying we wouldn't evolve into monkeys because we are perfectly adapted t the environment th way we are.

You post, and second post have shown how ignorant you are of science and history. Please do not attempt to make half assed evolution theories again, that is not until you have educated yourself.

ahhhh your reasoning is so frusterating, at least i finally got Odin to not oppose my idea
Roundelephant,
-they only proved that fossil was old by using carbon dating but the thing is the earth moves over long periods of time so there is still no evidence of monkeys before humans.
-it doesnt matter that humans are in your opinion "more resourceful". if a species doesnt use an attribute it will start to creat offspring that can survive without that. for example humans are beginnning to evolve away from the pinky toe because we all wear shoes. so since the monkeys live rather simple life they dont need the same brain power we have, and what do you, There Surviving!
-for the second time, the jungle is just an example, and also hair is just an example. i dont study monkeys, i dont know the exact reason they have fur but i would imagine fur is better than no fur. maybe its better camoflage but im sure a species like monkeys would be better equiped for survival with hair, rather than no hair.
-this point is just plain retarted. religion still exists and scientology is just a theory becasue NOTHING has been proven
-what environment are you referring to, metropolitan cities?

[odin_dax]

But the Catholic Church isn't God or evolution or spirituality, it's a man-made institution that has caused more corruption, suffering, stealing, murder, etc, etc which stretches back hundreds of years (I'm not a fan, as you can tell). Regardless, the fact that the Holy Roman Empire wanted to control the world with falsities doesn't mean anything in regard to proven history that most people knew the world was in fact not flat.

Also, nowhere in the Bible does it say the planet's age. If some lame-brain wanted to "calculate" that number and then tell it to the Catholic empire, and they in turn accept it, that doesn't mean it was ever a fact. Atheists and the like that continue to use the 10,000 years old figure are just ignorant.



@Domino: I did oppose it, but I didn't oppose coming up with ideas.

[RoundElephant]

ahhhh your reasoning is so frusterating, at least i finally got Odin to not oppose my idea
Roundelephant,
-they only proved that fossil was old by using carbon dating but the thing is the earth moves over long periods of time so there is still no evidence of monkeys before humans.
-it doesnt matter that humans are in your opinion "more resourceful". if a species doesnt use an attribute it will start to creat offspring that can survive without that. for example humans are beginnning to evolve away from the pinky toe because we all wear shoes. so since the monkeys live rather simple life they dont need the same brain power we have, and what do you, There Surviving!
-for the second time, the jungle is just an example, and also hair is just an example. i dont study monkeys, i dont know the exact reason they have fur but i would imagine fur is better than no fur. maybe its better camoflage but im sure a species like monkeys would be better equiped for survival with hair, rather than no hair.
-this point is just plain retarted. religion still exists and scientology is just a theory becasue NOTHING has been proven
-what environment are you referring to, metropolitan cities?

Your logic is flawed and it it made clear by the evidence i presented that I am correct and you are wrong. We should have a pole so the members can decide on who is right.

The man of science.

Or the man that believes, "they only proved that fossil was old by using carbon dating but the thing is the earth moves over long periods of time so there is still no evidence of monkeys before humans."
P.S. what were you even trying to say there, your post is so incoherent I don't get the main idea.

[DominoKett]

Your logic is flawed and it it made clear by the evidence i presented that I am correct and you are wrong. We should have a pole so the members can decide on who is right.

The man of science.

Or the man that believes, "they only proved that fossil was old by using carbon dating but the thing is the earth moves over long periods of time so there is still no evidence of monkeys before humans."
P.S. what were you even trying to say there, your post is so incoherent I don't get the main idea.

im not saying my theory is correct im just saying that your arguments for proving it false dont work

[.VX]

Who was it that used stick shadows in Egypt? I forgot...


Are you on about Pythagoras' Theory of Trigonometry? He was Greek, by the way.

There are heaps of faults in this thread.

RoundElephant, the majority's rule doesn't substitiute fact.

You're all wrong, everybody was created to glorify me. If I don't believe in you then you don't exist.

[RoundElephant]

im not saying my theory is correct im just saying that your arguments for proving it false dont work

Yes they do, your just too stupid to comprehend it. You think that the movement of the Earth destroys human fossils, fossils that actually never existed.

[DominoKett]

Yes they do, your just too stupid to comprehend it. You think that the movement of the Earth destroys human fossils, fossils that actually never existed.

ok fuck you, you stupid piece of shit. im trying to just put out a new idea and generate discussion but in every argument you have to throw in stuff you "you are so stupid" "you are a child" and other insults. if you cant contribute to this forum without being an immature cock sucker then leave!

[Th0r]

ok fuck you, you stupid piece of shit. im trying to just put out a new idea and generate discussion but in every argument you have to throw in stuff you "you are so stupid" "you are a child" and other insults. if you cant contribute to this forum without being an immature cock sucker then leave!

Oi!

Language like that and excessive flaming outside the FL are not tolerated.

Using language like that technically makes you the 'immature cock sucker'. Any more Flaming and I vote this topic gets chucked in the FL...

[Vein]

NO you're all wrong! God created the universe and mankind. It says so in the Bible.

[Th0r]

NO you're all wrong! God created the universe and mankind. It says so in the Bible.

No need to satirise.

[DominoKett]

Oi!

Language like that and excessive flaming outside the FL are not tolerated.

Using language like that technically makes you the 'immature cock sucker'. Any more Flaming and I vote this topic gets chucked in the FL...

well ive been trying to ignore his rude comments the last few times hes posted about this topic and i cant take his shit anymore, so go ahead and move this thread to the flame lounge. and is it really necessary to call me a cock sucker thor, i mean come on, your a moderator show some class

[odin_dax]

Okay, I've had enough.

Yeah, Domino, you've taken some slack, so I'm not surprised you snapped. Like I said earlier, it's good to think and generate ideas, but a lot of what you're talking about has been researched beyond and proven against your speculation, which is what Elephant was trying to say.

[Th0r]

well ive been trying to ignore his rude comments the last few times hes posted about this topic and i cant take his shit anymore, so go ahead and move this thread to the flame lounge. and is it really necessary to call me a cock sucker thor, i mean come on, your a moderator show some class

I'll agree that RE has been provoking you, but a constructive response was needed. As it happens I don't think this intellectual thread should be placed in the FL. Only if it descends into a cesspit of flames.

Odin's locked the thread - So the above comment is pointless in many ways.

I wasn't actually calling you a cock sucker, only saying that what you had said could be applied to you as you were the one who displayed some quite colourful, language in an immature way as opposed to making a constructive criticism.

Also Domino, I don't think you are a 'cock sucker'. Far from it, as I have a certain amount of respect for you.