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crazy white guy
7th November 2008, 04:15 AM
There was a major MDMA manufacturing facility bust a few months ago that got me thinking about how to make the manufacture of controlled chemicals safer for the chemist and anyone else involved. When I say anyone else involved, I do mean that you are looking at what the facility's resale value would be, neighbors complaining about suspicious gas clouds/smells/sounds and all that fun stuff.

Heres a basic list of some of the chemicals that may be involved with their proper and improper names for the manufacture of MDMA and methamphetamine along with what it is for those of you who wont recognize it by either name. I only added ones that may cause problems:

Sassafras oil or safrole:base chem of the reaction
MeOH or methanol: wood alcohol
p-Benzoquinone: This is a developing agent in film but in our purposed its used as an oxidant
Palladium (II) chloride (PdCl2): Another developing agent for film.
methylene chloride
Xylene: harsh cleaning agent
Acetone: paint thinner
NaHCO3 or sodium Bicarbonate: baking soda
Lye: cleaning agent
Hydrochloric Acid or muraic acid: pool acidifier and general use catylist.
Epsom salts: I see it in grocery stores all the time. I think they are for foot ailments.
Nitromethane: Hobby fuel. Very useful for killing infidels.
Any sort of oil: Its used to even out the temperature at which your boiling your flask
Anhydrous ammonia: no idea what a practical use might be.

Other than that just some things like water and salt

You will undoubtedly have these, and other things leftover after any given synthesis. How might one remove all traces of the chemicals from your area without damaging your health, your product, the environment and your freedom.

My best idea is to either change the state or appearance of a chemical in a way that would allow you to deliver it to a designated dump site without arising suspicion such as soaking sawdust in a liquid chemical and then dumping that and saying you came from a construction site.

Another Idea is to have a tank that you dump your chemicals into that is completely sealed off from the outside. After your done with the area that your in, you take the tank out and haul it to a dump site or simply leave it somewhere that it will not leak and rape the environment.

Ideas?

Th0r
9th November 2008, 03:50 PM
Anhydrous Ammonia is of key importance to the success of the process known as the 'Nazi Synthesis'. As the Nazi method is probably the most common Meth Synth in North America and perhaps the entire world, the use of Anhydrous Ammonia is heavily restricted.

A Google Search [Article here (http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/ageng/safety/ae1149-1.htm).] revealed that it is used as a fertiliser. I can't vouch for whether that is true or not. Also I think Anhydrous Ammonia is a brand name...

crazy white guy
10th November 2008, 05:56 AM
Also I think Anhydrous Ammonia is a brand name...

of all people you should know the truth. The word 'Anhydrous' means that it is free of water or 100% pure.

Th0r
10th November 2008, 04:49 PM
of all people you should know the truth. The word 'Anhydrous' means that it is free of water or 100% pure.

I meant as what it is sold as.

I used the source and that's what it said. I've seen videos of succesful Meth Synth's and it is very clear to anyone watching Anhydrous Ammonia is a gas...

Micro
23rd November 2008, 06:39 PM
I have heard of this new type of meth synth.
It is a variation of the Nazi method but uses some stuff called EDA (:ponder:) IIRC

So getting the anhydrous ammonia is no longer needed.

Ammonia is a gas at room temperature, buth whem cmobressed or cooled enough it is in its liquid form, as gases want to use as little space as possible, thus turning to a liquid.

Th0r
24th November 2008, 10:37 PM
Micro: Is EDA Ethylenediamine?

Micro
25th November 2008, 10:43 AM
Micro: Is EDA Ethylenediamine?

According to wikipedia it is. I don't know better.
Still searching for more references on the subject.