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Acid44
16th November 2008, 04:04 AM
Since many people i know don't understand my morals system, i've decided to make this text to try to describe it to those who fall into that group...


Violence: I dont mind violence much at all, however i do have a few rules as follows...

1. Violence against kids 9 years of age and under is wrong, no excuse, 10 years old and up i couldn't fucking care less.

2. Violence against women is wrong, no excuses, even if it's in self defense... ALTHOUGH, it IS ok if it is murder, because then they dont have to go through

the suffering of what injuries may occur in said violence...

3. There MUST be a reason for the violence to take place in ANY case.



Militay/extremest groups/terrorism:

1. Terrorism is fine, actually i see it as a good thing. Remember when the twin towers went down?.. Well, with it fell America's economy, for that tiny lapse

of time, the world was almost equal...

2. Bombing villages/cities isnt cool, it's just killing innocents for no reason.

3. Tactical bombing/killing is great, take out the bad guys with no civilian casualties, much better than sweeping villages...

4. sweeping villages/cities, (basically you get a command from a higher officer to kill anything that moves and isn't in the same gear as you) this is wrong,

once again, you're just killing innocents who have nothing to do with whatever war you're fighting.

5. Retalliation to terrorist attacks, keep it minimal, this may seem bad but, i'll use another example from 9/11 (i love the date they chose :p)... bush

kinda snapped, this is bad because then you get orders like the above city sweeping "tactics" because of patriotic idiots who think it's just brown

(obviously it isn't just brown people that preform terrorist attacks, i mean brown people in the example, not the moral) people's fault that it happened and

not that it's one asshole's fault.



Polotics, i hate it, this is basically going to say why i hate it...

1. Voting - Putting the state of the country in the peoples hands is NOT a good thing when most people or just going to vote for whomever they may vote for

because of race, religion, looks.., just basically shallow bullshit... Take Obama for example, i honestly think he was only voted in because he's black, i'm

not racist or anything, but there's easily enough black influence in the states to cause something like that...

2. Kings/Queens - This is a stupid fucking concept to still have, i mean, come one, they have no real power, and they are on a huge fucking payroll that we,

the tax-payers, are covering. Canada obviously doesnt have a queen, but i say "we" as meaning people in general, world-wide.

3. Terrorist factions - First of all, this falls underpolotic because they all work like military, they all have ranks, leaders and, followers... Terrorist

factions, although they may seem like a bad thing, keep the world in order. Think about this for a second. Why is the world mostly a bad place? Money, some

people have way to much, and some people have none, so the people that have none will naturally fight for power, which causes more violence, and essentially

more of the shit I'm against. What happens when a terrorist group attacks a country? The economy falls, hard. What difference does this make? A big fucking

difference. For one, when a country is low on funds, it can't hold up whatever military regimes it may be involved in at the time. Secondly, when a

"super-power" country is low on funds it falls more equal to other countries, which means less reason for war, less innocent deaths.

4. Rascism (falls into polotics because it IS in fact a political problem for those who don't know) - I'm against it, simple as that...



Money, money makes the world go around, but it also has it's problems...

1. money causes violence, as stated above it is a HUGE contributing factor to war and innocent's deaths

2. Food, shelter, water, clothes... All the essentials of life should be FREE, you NEED this shit to live, does the government just expect you to crouch in

a corner and die? Seems like it to me...



Laws:

1. Traffic laws - Bullshit, complete and utter bullshit. No traffic laws should be in play, you should be able to go as fast as you want and park wherever

you want, if that firetruck can't reach the hydrant, i'm sure the 15 tonnes of hardened steel and alluminium alloy can push your car, be it a Honda Civic or

a Hummer H1, it won't stand up to a fucking firetruck...

2. Violent crimes - These should only be punishable if there is NO logical reason for it. Be it revenge or beleifs, it should only be punishble if it is just

because you were "having a bad day"... Also, all violent crimes should be punishable by receiving equal injury to what you inflicted.


3. Theft - Theft is wrong, UNLESS there is just cause and the right circumstances. An example of the right circumstances and just cause would be, if your

family, or yourself needs money for food/shelter, and if you steal it from someone who can spare it. theft of objects is bad too, the only time that this is

acceptable is if the person can spare the object and you plan to sell it for money to support either yourself or your family.

4. Fraud - If you commit fraud, it should be with the same intents as i explained with stealing, other-wise, it should be punishable by death for being a

greedy bitch.



Relationships, i have a lot to say on this subject so this area will either be quite exsensive or right to the point.

1. Cheating - There is NO excuse for cheating. Under NO circumstances should cheating be acceptable.

2. "Open" relationships - everyone who's in one or likes them says it bring you and your partner closer together. This is the biggest bullshit i have ever

heard. There is always jealousy. No matter what you may say, you know damn wel that while your partner is out fucking other people you feel bad because you'd

rather have that person to yourself, These feelings are not to be confused with greed. Greed in a relationship would be the feeling of need for sex outside

of it.

3. Revenge in relationships - You should not EVER think that cheating, time apart, or anything like that are acceptable forms of revenge Chances are in the

time spent apart while you're out fucking someone else, or just taking time apart from the person, they will be doing whatever you're getting revenge for. If

you want revenge, either suck it up and go on with your life, or just break up with the person, or you could alternitavely talk it out. Figuring out their

reasoning will help you to come up with a better punishment for them.

4. Fights - Fights are stupid, rather than screaming at eachother, try talking, you solve alot mor problems a lot faster that way, if your spouse tries to

start a fight, keep calm and just talk peacefully with them, if the get more and more irrational, walk away, it IS bad to walk out on a fight because it will

obviously piss the person off more, but in the end they'll realize that you walking away was the better idea over fighting, and if they don't realize that

then they arent worth your while.

5. Time together - Spending time together is a great thing in my eyes, i like to spend every waking second with my partner. When i'm with someone i generally

try to base my life around the and their needs, this way i can keep them happy... this may seem stupid but the one time i found an amazing person (who i

spent one year, ten moths and four days of my life with), these simple rules worked out well for the most part because she let me basically do whatever i

wanted, so that way i have freedom to do what i want but i was still able to keep on track with her.



Drugs:

1. Life comes first. If you ever, even for a second feel a NEED to get high, you ARE addicted, i don't give a shit if you're stressed or whatever, addiction

is a key to unlock the doors of sorrow. If you ever feel the need to get high, you should kill yourself because chances are you won't live much of a life

anyways.

2. Spending money on drugs - I inderstand fully that drugs are not a nessecity and should not be free. However, if you are paying for your drugs, you have a

problem, because unless you have the money to spare you will be cutting into other living expenses, and if you do have the money to spare, it should be going

to those less fotunate.

3. "Hard" drugs VS. "Soft" drugs - whatever drug you may do is fine by me, be it Pot or Peyote, Crack or Ketamine, i couldn't fucking care less, as long as

you aren't a complete fucking moron when you're high, as most people i know are.

4. Getting high alone - I tend to get high alone. Not because there is no one around to do whatever i may have at the time with, but rather because most

people are idiots when they are high. The way i see it, drugs a way to chill out and take a break from the hardships of life for a few hours so you can just

enjoy yourself. Most people ruin this by being loud obnoxious pricks when they are high and always wanting to run around like fucking retards making loud

annoying noises because it "trips them out". FUCK THAT. I'd rather sit in my room, put on some music and just fuckin chill out.

5. Dealing - If you are a dealer, well, good for you, making cash outside of the iron curtain of the goverments control is always a good thing, but unless

you are dealing the purest product, you should be killed. I myself have bought exstacy, cocaine, marijuana, LSD (acid) and, other drugs containing extra

chemicals such as rat poison and ground up sulphur. This is bullshit. If you are dealing drugs, you should be at least selling what you say you are selling,

no extra crap that turns the product into a suicidal mass of crap.



Smoking:

1. Addiction - Cigarettes are addictive. No matter what you say, if you are a smoker, you can't just "stop any time"

2. Exesive smoking - There is no need to smoke 2-3 packs a day, i for one used to smoke 3 packs of John Player's special a day, but when i was low on funds,

i could make a pack last me a week easily. I chose to smoke 3 packs a day, simply because i could.

3. Breath - This is a big factor of why people don't smoke. If you smoke, at least have the common fucking courtesy to keep breath mints/Tic Tacs on you at

all times or, brush your teeth often. Smoking menthols does NOT make your breath any better than normal ciggarettes do, it's the same fould smell.

4. Health risks - Obviously the main reason people don't smoke is because it kills you... I like to think of it this way, with the way i act and the way

society is goin down the toilet i'll be dead by 30 anyways. So i might as well have some way to connect with people i couldn't otherwise have any connection

to.

5. Smoking doesn't make you cool. Simple as that.

6. Why i started smoking - For me what started it was that all the older people around me were smoking and i was sick of being treated like a kid so i

started smoking thinking that maybe they would treat me like an adult. I had to force myself to start, i didnt want to at first because every cigarette i had

i would throw up after, but i felt it was worth it so i wouldnt be treated like shit by everyone around me... Guess what... It worked, so, fuck you for

thinking i'm stupid.



Alcohol:

1. Acohol is NOT addictive - Contrary to what you may think, i beleive that alcohol is not addictive. The abuser makes the explicit desision to drink it.

It's your own stupidity that makes you feel like you're addicted to it, you can stop any time.

2.Getting drunk - Being in a drunken state is fine if, and only if, you can control yourself, i don't give a fuck if you throw up on the cop that just

searched you, as long as you can make it to a bed at some point without causing any pointless arguments/fight or, stumbling in front of a bus... Wait,

scratch that, go right ahead and stumble in front of a bus, it just means one less moron in the world.




Music:

1. It's importance to me - Music makes up the better part of my life, it always has, always will

2. Music in society - People like me are the reason that music choices can make or break a society. If you don't like at least some of the music i do,

chances are, we won't get along... These same morals are what most people in wesern society beleive, they may not admit it, but it's true. For example: How

often do you think you're gonna see a car with four rockers and 1 rapper in it goin down the road listening to 50 Cent? Never. because chances are the

rockers would shut his ass up before he even said anything.

3. Types of music - I know what you're expecting... You're expecting me to say i love some types of music and absolutely despise other types... Wrong, i love

all types of music, but i lean more towards rock/metal becaus it usually has a story or a deep meaning behind it where as most rap is all about puusy, money,

drugs and of course, "shootin niggahzzzz". however there are a few rap artsists that i do enjoy, immortal technique for example, i dont like the style too

much but every song you hear by them has a story behind it, and a deep meaning, best of both worlds. There is also some rock that i don't like. basically i

don't like any music that has the intention of being funny, it's not funny. If you want to make funny music, go work for fucking disney on the next "high

school musical"






For now, that is all, if you can think of any subjects un touched, feel free to post them and i'll write my opinions about them as soon as i can. Also, if i

happen to think of anything to add, i will add it...


But right now, i am tired, so i must sleep. Sometime tommorow i will be adding my opinions on video games, technology, computers, sleeping and, any other

sub-ordinants (did i use the right word?) of computers, along with any other subjects i can think of.

i hope you enjoyed this so far.


signed,
Acid44


EDIT: that's longer than i thought... sorry for the super post :p

Acid44
16th November 2008, 04:49 AM
i've got a list so far of the subjects ill be covering when i continue on this here rampage

EDIT: updated list

Religion

Technology: Computers, the internet, video games

Media

Health: Sleeping, cancer, disease, ect.

More politics; Communism, Naziism, anarchy, hippies, ect.

More Relationships: Taking car of my partner, ect.

More Violence: Torture, Rape, ect.

Mental Health: Suffering, mental diseases, ect.

Sports

Vein
16th November 2008, 07:26 AM
uhhhhhhhh........ what makes you think anyone should even care about your philosophy?

Acid44
16th November 2008, 07:31 AM
uhhhhhhhh........ what makes you think anyone should even care about your philosophy?

no-one should, but some people (like me and a few others im sure on this board) like to read things like this

:Flush:

RoundElephant
16th November 2008, 09:06 AM
I think defending yourself from a woman's attack is totally alright. A lot of men don't and that is why now days some men are being abused by their women. In self defense violence against anyone is excused in my morals.

And shouldn't this be in the Spiritual, Mystical & Philosophical section?

XxXxX

I've moved it.

Acid44
16th November 2008, 10:57 AM
well, for me i think it depends on the attack and the woman, i mean, most girls are gonna like slap you and shit, but if they stab you oor punch/kick you repeatedly and are trying to starrt a fight, then go all out...

shit, sorry dude, i didnt even see this section :p

XxXxX

It doesn't matter, just try and remember for next time...

RoundElephant
16th November 2008, 05:40 PM
I'd backhand a girl even if she was just slapping me repeatedly. Or I'd just grab her wrists and shake her if it didn't hurt that much.

Acid44
17th November 2008, 03:57 PM
haha, idk man, i wouldn't hit a girl at all but i also wouldnt stop someone dependant on the circumstances, the most i'd do is stop them from hitting me, for example, my mom used to beat the shit out of me (yea yea, laugh it up) she didnt do any damage but it got annoying so i'd grab her wrists and toss her across the room onto the couch or something

odin_dax
17th November 2008, 10:26 PM
A few points...

Since many people i know don't understand my morals system, i've decided to make this text to try to describe it to those who fall into that group...


Violence: I dont mind violence much at all, however i do have a few rules as follows...

1. Violence against kids 9 years of age and under is wrong, no excuse, 10 years old and up i couldn't fucking care less.

Why 10? Why anyone? Why care about 9 and under but not 10 and up? Is there any scientific basis for your rationale?



2. Violence against women is wrong, no excuses, even if it's in self defense... ALTHOUGH, it IS ok if it is murder, because then they dont have to go through

Right, so you can murder a woman, you just can't hit her back or throw her on the ground in self-defense. That makes sense...:ugh:



[QUOTE=Acid44;28978]
Militay/extremest groups/terrorism:

1. Terrorism is fine, actually i see it as a good thing. Remember when the twin towers went down?.. Well, with it fell America's economy, for that tiny lapse

Yeah, I remember when 3,000 people lost their lives.



of time, the world was almost equal...

Not at all.



1. Voting - Putting the state of the country in the peoples hands is NOT a good thing when most people or just going to vote for whomever they may vote for

because of race, religion, looks.., just basically shallow bullshit... Take Obama for example, i honestly think he was only voted in because he's black, i'm

not racist or anything, but there's easily enough black influence in the states to cause something like that...

Obama didn't win because of the black vote. 9/10 of all blacks vote Democrat anyway. Many demographics helped Obama win.




2. Food, shelter, water, clothes... All the essentials of life should be FREE, you NEED this shit to live, does the government just expect you to crouch in

a corner and die? Seems like it to me...

Water is free in the US. The government ensures the safety and quality of all those things, but why should the government provide what any able man can provide himself? Why turn humanity even lazier and less self-reliant? Who pays for the free stuff? Taxpayers, of course! So, isn't that like feeding with your own hand?






1. Traffic laws - Bullshit, complete and utter bullshit. No traffic laws should be in play, you should be able to go as fast as you want and park wherever

you want, if that firetruck can't reach the hydrant, i'm sure the 15 tonnes of hardened steel and alluminium alloy can push your car, be it a Honda Civic or

a Hummer H1, it won't stand up to a fucking firetruck...

Laws protect other drivers from reckless endangerment. If one loses control at 120 mph, everyone else on the road is at risk. It isn't a planned accident, but they never are planned! Insurance companies won't take protect anybody under such lax traffic laws.



2. Violent crimes - These should only be punishable if there is NO logical reason for it. Be it revenge or beleifs, it should only be punishble if it is just

because you were "having a bad day"... Also, all violent crimes should be punishable by receiving equal injury to what you inflicted.

Because all people aren't sadistic. We need laws to protect people and keep the peace. There is never any logical reason behind it, even using yours. If all punishment should be equal, then who is the first to use a knife or a gun? Such societies just don't function, Acid.

This long post has worn me out...

Acid44
17th November 2008, 11:11 PM
A few points...



Why 10? Why anyone? Why care about 9 and under but not 10 and up? Is there any scientific basis for your rationale?




Right, so you can murder a woman, you just can't hit her back or throw her on the ground in self-defense. That makes sense...:ugh:

yea, i gotta fix that self defense part now that i've thought about it, but the killing part, my reasoning is that, if you're angry enough to kill someone you're gonna do a lot of damage, probably permanent, but if they die instead of living with the suffering they're just... dead



Yeah, I remember when 3,000 people lost their lives.


i couldn't give a fuck less about deaths from terrorism tbh...


of time, the world was almost equal...

Not at all.


obviously it wasn't completely equal, or even really close... but closer economically than it has been in a while




Obama didn't win because of the black vote. 9/10 of all blacks vote Democrat anyway. Many demographics helped Obama win.

meh



Water is free in the US. The government ensures the safety and quality of all those things, but why should the government provide what any able man can provide himself? Why turn humanity even lazier and less self-reliant? Who pays for the free stuff? Taxpayers, of course! So, isn't that like feeding with your own hand?

you have a point there *cheers*, it is true that someone has to pay for it, someone obviously being taxpayers, but... hmmm.... i think i should actually change that from free to less expensive... you win :(

but about the water being free thing, it isn't everywhere, hell, water isn't even free in canada (which is where i live), so it doesn't really matter to me that it's free in the U.S.





Laws protect other drivers from reckless endangerment. If one loses control at 120 mph, everyone else on the road is at risk. It isn't a planned accident, but they never are planned! Insurance companies won't take protect anybody under such lax traffic laws.

true, but i'm saying this assuming that people know their own limits as to how expeirienced of a driver they are under different conditions ect.




Because all people aren't sadistic. We need laws to protect people and keep the peace. There is never any logical reason behind it, even using yours. If all punishment should be equal, then who is the first to use a knife or a gun? Such societies just don't function, Acid.


i agree that we need laws to keep people in line, but in the VERY odd case that someone does have just cause to cause harm to another they should get away with it


This long post has worn me out...

lmao, dude, i sat for 2 hours typing that, and another 3 today working on the next section :p thn again i dont have a life so... yea...

and obviosly these morals of mine are just my dumb ass opinion, and subject to change without warning :p

.VX
18th November 2008, 04:02 AM
my reasoning is that, if you're angry enough to kill someone you're gonna do a lot of damage, probably permanent, but if they die instead of living with the suffering they're just... dead


That's fucking retarded. Why don't you just not kill them or permanently cripple them?

I'd much prefer to have "suffered your wrath" and survive than just be "euthanised".

Also, Acid, I'm pretty sure that you could get your own food and water if you had to.

depthfinder09
24th November 2008, 02:08 AM
no comments on your morals, they are yours to believe my friend.

I did enjoyed the read though.

Acid44
24th November 2008, 06:47 AM
thanks, at least one persons not shitting on my opinions so far :p

Dizzy
25th November 2008, 03:01 AM
there is absolutely nothing wrong with striking a woman is she is physically or mentally agitating you. but it must be one swift powerful strike, not a savage fury.

RoundElephant
25th November 2008, 03:04 AM
there is absolutely nothing wrong with striking a woman is she is physically or mentally agitating you. but it must be one swift powerful strike, not a savage fury.

hahaha
i agree with the physical agitation but not the mental agitation.

Dizzy
25th November 2008, 03:13 AM
most likely, if you call a woman a whore or slut, she will strike you. it is only fair that when you are called an asshole, you raise your hand. and again, it must be one open handed powerful strike. nothing more, nothing less

RoundElephant
25th November 2008, 03:32 AM
most likely, if you call a woman a whore or slut, she will strike you. it is only fair that when you are called an asshole, you raise your hand. and again, it must be one open handed powerful strike. nothing more, nothing less

Why can't you just grab her wrists and shake her?
Won't that get the point across without abuse.

Acid44
25th November 2008, 04:14 AM
most likely, if you call a woman a whore or slut, she will strike you. it is only fair that when you are called an asshole, you raise your hand. and again, it must be one open handed powerful strike. nothing more, nothing less

hahaha that made my day XD

Antagonist
1st December 2008, 12:57 AM
Regarding violence against women, I think simply laughing at them is sufficient, and of course the wrist grab when they don't stop. That's what I've always done, females, on average (and without weapons) are simply not powerful enough to inflict any sort of damage.

For me, I'm the kind of guy who is physically active and well, practice punches with weights, and well I'm not that weak. So even a single, open handed, powerful strike would worry me that I'd hurt them too much...females are pretty frail.

I can understand the murder part though, because gender is really no excuse in determining a persons...can't think of the word I'm looking for, but "value" maybe. Nah, that isn't it. Okay, if george bush all the sudden grew a vagina, it would have absolutely no effect on the fact that I'd love to put a bullet through her brain.

About rap music, yeah man I hear ya', it sucks, that's why I listen to hip-hop, like the underground shit. Immortal Technique is the tip of the ice berg, theres plenty of talented MCs in the world today, you just have to look. Check out some people from "The Weathermen" just youtube like Aesop Rock and Cage Kennylz since their prob the easiest to find.

I totally agree with you on the terrorism thing too. As long as they are working towards something, I think it would be simply amazing if there was a group that started bombing police stations and shit.

Dizzy
1st December 2008, 02:02 AM
Regarding violence against women, I think simply laughing at them is sufficient, and of course the wrist grab when they don't stop. That's what I've always done, females, on average (and without weapons) are simply not powerful enough to inflict any sort of damage.

For me, I'm the kind of guy who is physically active and well, practice punches with weights, and well I'm not that weak. So even a single, open handed, powerful strike would worry me that I'd hurt them too much...females are pretty frail.

Look at a man's anatomical structure, then look at a woman's. Who has the big round flesh spheres covered with nerves just hanging around? According to mother nature, women have the upper hand in physical combat.

RoundElephant
1st December 2008, 02:49 AM
Look at a man's anatomical structure, then look at a woman's. Who has the big round flesh spheres covered with nerves just hanging around? According to mother nature, women have the upper hand in physical combat.

How do cumbersome fat sacs give them any sort of upper hand?

Antagonist
1st December 2008, 05:21 AM
Sorry Dizzy, but I'mma have to give you a big "disagree" on that one.

As you said, they are covered with nerve endings, so wouldn't that mean it would hurt much more to get hit there? I've heard that tatoos on boobies are one of the more painful places to get tatted up for this reason.

Also, looking at the female structure vs. the males, you will notice that men are given more upper body strength whereas woman are more gifted in the lower half. No doubt good foot-work helps a lot in fights and makes you harder to knock down, but upper body strength comes in much more handy when it comes to striking hard, which is what we referred to in previous posts.

But...you weren't serious, were you?

Dizzy
2nd December 2008, 01:13 AM
Sorry Dizzy, but I'mma have to give you a big "disagree" on that one.

As you said, they are covered with nerve endings, so wouldn't that mean it would hurt much more to get hit there? I've heard that tatoos on boobies are one of the more painful places to get tatted up for this reason.

Also, looking at the female structure vs. the males, you will notice that men are given more upper body strength whereas woman are more gifted in the lower half. No doubt good foot-work helps a lot in fights and makes you harder to knock down, but upper body strength comes in much more handy when it comes to striking hard, which is what we referred to in previous posts.

But...you weren't serious, were you?

I should have been more specific. I meant testicles not breasteses

GTA
13th December 2008, 08:48 PM
It was obvious he meant testicles.

Antagonist
14th December 2008, 11:11 PM
Well you know what? Boobs are a bigger, and easier target to hit. They are also covered in nerve endings and are sensitive. So if you get in a fight with a girl, punch her in the titty and I bet she'll say "Ow! You just hit my titty"

End of story.

Dizzy
16th December 2008, 03:25 AM
Well you know what? Boobs are a bigger, and easier target to hit. They are also covered in nerve endings and are sensitive. So if you get in a fight with a girl, punch her in the titty and I bet she'll say "Ow! You just hit my titty"

End of story.

are you actually comparing the pain associated with a strike to the testicles with the pain associated with a strike to the breasts? be realistic. use your brain and tell me which one would hurt more

RoundElephant
16th December 2008, 03:34 AM
are you actually comparing the pain associated with a strike to the testicles with the pain associated with a strike to the breasts? be realistic. use your brain and tell me which one would hurt more

He is correct. When stuck in the testicles I feel sick to the stomach and it is more of a deep, lasting, pain then the sudden sharp pain I feel when struck anywhere else.

Th0r
16th December 2008, 06:58 PM
Lets try to keep discussion OT folks.

.VX
16th December 2008, 10:10 PM
In regards to my morals, read the first line of my signature.

odin_dax
17th December 2008, 12:25 AM
In regards to my morals, read the first line of my signature.

We've been through that sort of discussion before. To restate, in short, I disagree with it. :wiggle:

.VX
17th December 2008, 12:56 AM
I wasn't necessarily speaking to you.

But hey!, now that this has been started, why not? Odin, do you think that any law is abolute, and applies to all possible circumstances?

odin_dax
23rd December 2008, 03:09 AM
I wasn't necessarily speaking to you.

But hey!, now that this has been started, why not? Odin, do you think that any law is abolute, and applies to all possible circumstances?

I think that question is too vague to be answered simply. For most laws, yes. To say all, I can't honestly give you an answer. It'd depend on the situation.

The laws aren't always absolute because the US has judges and juries that do sympathize with "criminals."

.VX
23rd December 2008, 04:37 PM
I think that question is too vague to be answered simply. For most laws, yes. To say all, I can't honestly give you an answer. It'd depend on the situation.

The laws aren't always absolute because the US has judges and juries that do sympathize with "criminals."

You just did answer it simply, I was asking whether you thought any law was absolute, and you said that you thought most were. It'd depend on the situation? I'm going to assume that by that you mean the situation in which the laws were appointed.The question wasn't referring specifically to any place, or even on a legal level. I was more questioning the concept of a law.

The punishment that someone receives doesn't change the fact that they are deemed to have commited a crime, despite the circumstances.

Don't get me wrong, I'd agree that most current laws are doing more good than harm, but it's impossible for any law to apply to all possible circumstances; which there are an unlimited number of.

odin_dax
23rd December 2008, 06:16 PM
You just did answer it simply, I was asking whether you thought any law was absolute, and you said that you thought most were. It'd depend on the situation? I'm going to assume that by that you mean the situation in which the laws were appointed.The question wasn't referring specifically to any place, or even on a legal level. I was more questioning the concept of a law.

The punishment that someone receives doesn't change the fact that they are deemed to have commited a crime, despite the circumstances.

Don't get me wrong, I'd agree that most current laws are doing more good than harm, but it's impossible for any law to apply to all possible circumstances; which there are an unlimited number of.

You're probably right.

.VX
23rd December 2008, 10:23 PM
Odin ... agreeing with me? Good lord!