Vegetarianism.

[.VX]

Is anyone else here vegetarian, or vegan, or is on any other kind of diet?

[RoundElephant]

If I was a 25 year old hippy woman that lived in San Fransisco or Boulder, sure I'd be a vegan.

[odin_dax]

I think vegans are stupid. :stups:

[.VX]

I think that veganism is stupid, but I don't think that vegans are stupid.

[Th0r]

Why are you a Vegetarian?

[odin_dax]

I think that veganism is stupid, but I don't think that vegans are stupid.

Although that's what I originally meant, I do think people that follow veganism are as stupid as the act. Maybe not entirely stupid, but there has to be at least one card missing in the deck.

[.VX]

Why are you a Vegetarian?

I was raised like that, my body isn't used to meat so I'd throw it up if I tried eating it, I like animals and I clearly don't need to eat them to survive, so I won't. Stuff like that.

Although that's what I originally meant, I do think people that follow veganism are as stupid as the act. Maybe not entirely stupid, but there has to be at least one card missing in the deck.

Do you mean 'don't'?

[Th0r]

Well I like animals just the ones we don't eat.

[.VX]

Ok ...

"Last edited by Th0r : Today at 06:56 AM. "? It doesn't seem edited.


Is there no-one else on Rorta who has a different diet to the majority?

[Th0r]

I merged a double post of yours.

[.VX]

Oh, yeah.

[odin_dax]

Do you mean 'don't'?

No...

[torcher]

i eat meat. i like vegetables and all, but the texture taste and overall satisfaction of a good steak is what keeps me eating meat

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Yeah sorry VX, i eat alot more meat than i do veggies, i eat a fair bit of fruit though.

Meat is just so juicy and beautiful to eat and there is so many variates and things you can do with meat.

You can only do things to a certain extent with veges, meat is limitless.

But i dont care if someone was a vegan oe vegetarian, i had a vegan missus at one stage and she loved man meat.(crap joke ay)

Do what you want and eat what you want, just dont force it on me and im fine with it.

[.VX]

No...

So you'd judge someone's intellect based on their diet? That's pretty shallow of you, Odin.


No need to be sorry, Nox. I don't have as much of a problem with the concept of people eating meat as I do with the way that animals are 'farmed' and treated before being eaten. I disagree about vegetarian cooking being limited.

[odin_dax]

So you'd judge someone's intellect based on their diet? That's pretty shallow of you, Odin.

No, just vegans. People diet all the time that aren't vegans. And don't give me that holier-than-thou crap either, VX. I've seen you judge people on this board that didn't align with your thoughts.

[.VX]

No, just vegans. People diet all the time that aren't vegans.

Would you think that they were idiots if you thought that their diet was unnecessary?

[Vein]

Pain is natural, and life feeds on life. Unfortunately the human population has grown to the point that we require farming life artificially to feed on it, and often we choose to farm animals.

Animals experience stimulus when we farm them, and when harvested, the chemicals in their brain cause them to experience physical pain. Perhaps their artificial being causes additional psychological pain as well as physical.

I think both physical and psychological pain can or could be measured in the future with neuroscience, based on chemical levels and stress indicators, as well as pleasure and happiness.

Although there may be crude measurements at first, once all variables are accounted we could weigh the value of pain and pleasure and punish the livestock industry for surpassing the pain to pleasure ratio that their food brings (i.e. the pain the animal experiences cannot outweigh the pleasure brought to the average consumer from their product)

From here regulation could be taken place in order to insure the horrid slaughterhouse practices could be fixed, and...ugh I don't know, I guess that's it.


I'm still too indecisive to change my eating habits, but I think we need more aggressive laws against inhumane killing of animals. I mean, come on, they're being killed like animals!:damnit1:

[7eleven mafia]

Animals kill other animals, animals eat other animals. It is a natural way of life, and the use of slaughter houses is to deal with the vast amount of people. I'm not going to change my eating because people think that it is cruel to kill animals and eat them. When animals hunt other animals down often times they are not killed right then but die slowly, it is a natural process for animals to kill and eat them. It is a natural process that has gone on for thousands of years and it has been successful the whole time. There is no need to change this because people feel that we can live on vegtables. I don't know how other people feel, but I enjoy eating a nice juicy steak.

[odin_dax]

Animals kill other animals, animals eat other animals. It is a natural way of life, and the use of slaughter houses is to deal with the vast amount of people. I'm not going to change my eating because people think that it is cruel to kill animals and eat them. When animals hunt other animals down often times they are not killed right then but die slowly, it is a natural process for animals to kill and eat them. It is a natural process that has gone on for thousands of years and it has been successful the whole time. There is no need to change this because people feel that we can live on vegtables. I don't know how other people feel, but I enjoy eating a nice juicy steak.

I don't eat beef and seafood (but I do eat chicken, turkey and lamb), but I totally agree with you on the matter.

[.VX]

I don't eat beef and seafood (but I do eat chicken, turkey and lamb), but I totally agree with you on the matter.

Why not?

[odin_dax]

Why not?

Just the smell of seafood makes me gag.

Beef...
1. I feel better not eating it, psychically and emotionally.
2. The safety/health standards aren't enough, in my opinion.

[Th0r]

Just the smell of seafood makes me gag.

Beef...
1. I feel better not eating it, psychically and emotionally.
2. The safety/health standards aren't enough, in my opinion.

Depends what seafood. I'm a huge fan of Cod, Squid and Prawns.

I agree with you on the second point about beef.

[Micro]

People can eat anything they want, as long as they don't try to force their ideals down my throat.
I like meat. And I'm planing to get in to hunting in the future.
That way I can get the ultimate fresh meat :)

I am what I am and I don't give a fuck about animals dying, true it is sometimes useless like dolphins dying in fishing nets and stuff like that.

Animals live to be eaten by other animals, it is as simple as that.
You can choose not to eat them but some other will.
I also have a small veggie plot on my yard.

[Mr.A]

I enjoy almost all foods, and the thing I like more than eating those foods is trying new foods.

Every Vegetarian or vegan I've ever seen looked unhealthy. usually underweight.

One of the main reasons I like meat so much is because of the protein in it. Sure you can find protein in vegatables, but not as much on the overall. And certainly not as good of quality as meat protein.

The whole being mean to animals thing...shut up. :smileysex

Even though my opinion of vegetable loving is negative it doesn't bother me when I'm friends with someone who is. but Odins probably right. The majority of vegans or vegatarians are more than likely stupid.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Mate, Tula is on the seafood diet, she sees food and eats it.


Fuckin classic.

[DoctaD]

Ive been in a slaughterhouse and Im a trained butcher, you could never put me off any kind of meat.

Vegans offend me.

[Th0r]

Killed any Cows DD?

[.VX]

I've met overweight vegetarians. Also, even though I'm underweight, I'm perfectly healthy, and get all the necessary amounts of protein, omega 3, etc ... I get my physique from my father, who was incredibly thin, and ate a lot of meat.

[DoctaD]

Killed any Cows DD?
Nah, just mutilated their carcasses.

[RoundElephant]

I've seen a lot of vegetarians that have baby fat, I've yet to see a muscular one though.

[MrKant]

Vegetarians must take massive shits with all that fiber in their diet.

And I'm a carnivore at heart. I eat more than a fair amount of fruit, but rarely vegetables.
Name any type of meat made for human consuption and I've eaten it.
SubQuestion:
How do you like your meat?
Personally, I prefer bloody, as close to alive as it can get while still being dead.

[.VX]

Vegetarians must take massive shits with all that fiber in their diet.


Although I've never been anyone but my vegetarian self, so I have nothing to compare, you're probably right.

[FAZEone]

Vegetarians must take massive shits with all that fiber in their diet.

And I'm a carnivore at heart. I eat more than a fair amount of fruit, but rarely vegetables.
Name any type of meat made for human consuption and I've eaten it.
SubQuestion:
How do you like your meat?
Personally, I prefer bloody, as close to alive as it can get while still being dead.

Bloody meat is awful. :smirk: Medium-well to well done is all I eat.
So you've eaten horse, kangaroo, dog, cat and other types of meat?

[MrKant]

So you've eaten horse, kangaroo, dog, cat and other types of meat?
No to the 'Roo, but yes to everything else.

[RoundElephant]

Bloody meat is awful. :smirk: Medium-well to well done is all I eat.
So you've eaten horse, kangaroo, dog, cat and other types of meat?

Yeah, I like well done also.

And I believe vegetarian burgers are awful.

[FAZEone]

No to the 'Roo, but yes to everything else.

How does the dog/cat taste? :speechles
Have you ever tried emu meat?

[cnpeace]

I'm a vegan, now before everyone says that I am stupid (etc.) I do have reason, vegies don't go bad as fast (and I can grab them out of peoples plots when I am moving), and when I have a steady source of income, it doesn't cost as much to buy vegies. Oh, and I was raised vegan, so, similarly to VX, my body would react badly to meat. Now everyone can say that I am an idiot for not eating meat.

[Mr.A]

I dont think you suck man...I just think the idea of not eating meat sucks.

[.VX]

Yeah, I like well done also.

And I believe vegetarian burgers are awful.

Vegetarian food is the same as any other food; it depends on who cooks it.

[cnpeace]

I agree with VX, it really depends on who cooks it, but when you are hungry, it doesn't matter that much.
I couldn't express my opinion on meat versus no meat since I never have eaten it, but I am glad that your opinion of me isn't lowered by that.

[FAZEone]

Indians make nice vegetarian food. :biggrin:
I can understand how they can be vegetarians with their pakoras and breads etc.
But, why be a vegan?

[.VX]

Indians make nice vegetarian food.

Fuck yes.

The only real reason for being vegan that I've heard is for the health benefits.

[FAZEone]

:afro:

Pffftt seriously what health benefits do you get from not drinking milk and eating cheese and eggs etc?

[odin_dax]

:afro:

Pffftt seriously what health benefits do you get from not drinking milk and eating cheese and eggs etc?

Word. Best example is milk! Aren't we breastfed?! Geez, some people have amazingly funny ideas. The only people worse than vegans are Paleolithic dieters.

[.VX]

Word. Best example is milk! Aren't we breastfed?!

Is this a joke?
Geez, some people have amazingly funny ideas. The only people worse than vegans are Paleolithic dieters.

Have you actually got any reasons for thinking that?

[odin_dax]

Is this a joke?

No, unless there are vegan moms that breastfeed with coconut milk.


Have you actually got any reasons for thinking that?

Short answer, yes.

Long answer = Unlike most people, I use reasoning for all my opinions.

[.VX]

No, unless there are vegan moms that breastfeed with coconut milk.

I thought that you were trying to compare breastmilk to cow's milk.

Most vegan's opposition to drinking milk because it goes against nature. Not the actual act of drinking milk.

Short answer, yes.

Long answer = Unlike most people, I use reasoning for all my opinions.

And those reasons are ...?

[FAZEone]

VX, can you explain what health benefits there are from being vegan?

[.VX]

VX, can you explain what health benefits there are from being vegan?

Lots of fresh fruit and vegetables are always good. And the vegan/vegetarian alternatives to meat (stuff rich in protein mostly, like soy based stuff) are digested a lot easier. Our bodies' digestive systems aren't made for digesting a lot of meats, so what actually gets through takes much longer, and it also builds up over a period of years.

Although a lot of vegans/vegetarians don't eat properly, and end up with protein and iron deficiencies, the people who actually put some thought into what they're eating can get just as much vitamins, protein, etc as someone who eats meat. We just digest our food quicker and don't pay as much for it.

[FAZEone]

What I really meant was how does not eating certain foods (excluding meat) be beneficial to your health? Vegans don't eat any animal by-products right?

[.VX]

Like milk and eggs? I don't think that anyone's saying that they're unhealthy, that specifically is more about invading the animal's rights. Although soy milk is incredibly healthy, but it tastes revolting IMO.

[Mr.A]

It seems to me that most vegetarians are vegetarians for odd/wrong reasons. Sure .VX, you can gain that missing protein from plants like Soy. My argument against that is that soy is femine like in the protein quality world. I forget the actual details of the study but in-a-nutshell scientist found that soy made humens produce higher amounts estrogen(female related hormon). This is what turns most bodybuilders that I know off from it. Sure there are slightly significant sorces of protein in other plants but nothing compares to the quality of the protein in meat. Protein, like anything else, is much more complex in our bodies than it sounds. Our bodies "like" or absorb some proteins better than others. Specifically red meat proteins dominate that field.

Yes, my stand on why I'm not a vegetarian is up to taste and less on practicality and it seems to me that all food is great in someway or another but definitely some are better for you than others(as long as were are talking about the health of our bodies here).

In-a-nutshell I'm trying to say I definitely don't think the healthiest nutrition is obtained from becoming a vegetarian(avoiding meat). We have teeth for both plant eating and meat eating, hints why we call ourselves omnivores.

The only logical reason I see a person wanting to be a vegetarian would be because of some severe alergy that eating meat causes them to trip.

[.VX]

That's pretty interesting. Have you got a source or something? Because I eat shitloads of soy based stuff.

[Mr.A]

I know the information is out there on the net, I'll look for it when I have more time.

I remember hearing about it for the first time from someone I trusted to give me nutritional information. I checked his fact and it was true from what I remember, so from that day forward I never touched soy again.

Like I said, I'll look later when I have more time, or if you find it first, please post it.

Sorry I couldn't help you any further at the moment.

[.VX]

Yeah, you're right. http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Soybeans?open
I really don't care though as long as I'm not developing breasts it doesn't bother me.

EDIT: As I was looking through that site I found this (http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Vegetarian_eating?OpenDocument). I've had blood tests recently and I'm getting enough iron, etc ...

[Mr.A]

Ah there it is! Thanks for posting the link.

I just fear that being a vegetarian might have furture unforseen side effects and cause diseases too far ahead in time for science to test right now. Kind of like exessive eating of large amounts of carbohydrates seems to lead to diabetes in the long run. Its just easier to see that carbs are bad in large amounts short term because they make you a fat ass. :sasmokin:

Edit: I do think that a veg could be perfectly fine given they have enough supplements to fill in the gaps for the foods they restrict themselves to though. Still more fun to me to not restrict myself and munch on a juicy chicken thigh rather than a handfull of pills! lol.

[.VX]

I don't take any supplements. My blood has been tested and my levels of everything are fine.

[Mr.A]

I'm thinking this conversation will continue in another thread.

Sounds good at the moment, but your body is more than just what blood work can tell you and on top of that docters most of the time just seem like they're highly over paid over educated guessers. Not to say their opinion shouldn't be valued IMO.

[.VX]

I'm incredibly healthy, the only health problems of mine are pretty much out of my control.

But I can understand your doubts, most vegetarians only eat a lot of fruit and vegies, and end up being really weak because of it.

[Mr.A]

I'm an individual who doesn't believe that most or even very very close to all health problems are out of persons hands. I also think that more people should take responsible for their overall well being or physical health simply because enough don't.:crazy::oh:

My sterotype of most vegetarians is only that they avoid meat. At least thats the sterotype I try to hold. Haha!:ugh2:

[.VX]

Let me rephrase, my only health problems are physical manifestations of mental/psychological shit. If I started eating meat they wouldn't change.

[Mr.A]

ohhhh hmm...:swordfigh


So you claim you don't believe the mind and body are connected?

I'm sorry I couldn't resist the debate.

Edit: I didn't fully get your post till now, but its kinda contradicting what you said lol.

[Mr.A]

I wanted to let you know you inspired me. You sparked my interest into manipulating my diet for the better of my health. Starting about four days ago now, I am officially mostly vegetarian. Not completely, I still think that would be foolish. My diet now is mostly, things vegetarians would consume. It's working out really well so far: I've been shatting like I've never shat before, my energy and mental alertness is on the up too! Thanks a bunch.:approve:


No answer to my last post .VX?:bukkake:

[odin_dax]

I only eat chicken and turkey, with a rare occasion of having lamb about once a year. I think birds are okay, depending on how they were raised. Much healthier to have free range chicks and slaughtering them yourself.

I felt so much better when I stopped eating pork and, especially, beef. Beef really made me feel depressed and lethargic. But I stopped eating beef for many reasons.

[The Schizoid Hatter]

I too happen to be a vegetarian and have been for several (6? 5?) years. I'm responsible with it, taking the (exhaustive amount of) necessary supplements. But I do it not for ethical or health reasons. No, I just am not particularly fond of the taste of meat. Though, I do eat seafood. Sushi, mainly.

[.VX]

No answer to my last post .VX?

You were right, I was contradicting myself. What exactly have you been eating for the last few days?

Schizoid Hatter - You're a piscatarian.

[The Schizoid Hatter]

Schizoid Hatter - You're a piscatarian.
Yes, I am indeed a pescatarian. I used to be a pollopescatarian, but that was straying rather far from the point of being a bloody vegetarian.

In fact, I was a vegan for a year, but I didn't exactly supplement my diet right and fell ill. Malnourishment is a bitch.

[Acid44]

Though, I do eat seafood. Sushi, mainly.

am i really the only one in the world who hasn't tried sushi?


im not a vegetarian but i tend to stick to non meat foods... i rarely eat meat but when i do its the most unhealthy crap you could imagine... like burgers, lunch meats on sandwiches, hot dogs, ect...

[The Schizoid Hatter]

am i really the only one in the world who hasn't tried sushi?

Try it. It's always good to branch out and venture into unknown territory.


im not a vegetarian but i tend to stick to non meat foods... i rarely eat meat but when i do its the most unhealthy crap you could imagine... like burgers, lunch meats on sandwiches, hot dogs, ect...

That isn't all that unhealthy. At least you're not consuming fast food 24/7. I'm looking at you, middle America. T_T

[Acid44]

Try it. It's always good to branch out and venture into unknown territory.

every time i go to try sushi something happens... like crazy shit that's totally fucking uncalled for... tha last time i got sushi blocked by a friend over dosing... how is that fair?




That isn't all that unhealthy. At least you're not consuming fast food 24/7. I'm looking at you, middle America. T_T

haha... True... but it's still pretty bad:worried:

[The Schizoid Hatter]

Ah, sushi-blocking. The cock-blocking of raw fish. :yup:

Indulging in greasy food every now and again isn't unhealthy. It's a pretty sane practice. In fact, it keeps one's diet in check. Adhering to the same boring diet day in and day out would drive one batty.
So, cheers! :banana:

[Mr.A]

Hmmm, sushi is one of my favorites, I wish I had some right this moment.:hail:

@.VX: I've been trying to figure out what I should be eating...mostly salads I make at home with romaine lettuce, carrotts, a lil turkey meat, broccoli with a touch of dressing. Fruits like strawberries, raspberries, pomegranates, oranges and apples. The only nuts lately are pistachios and almonds. Juices and some cereals. Only stuff I really enjoy but I'm slowly reaching out and trying other vegetables. Like celery and the carrots. I usually detest them but I'm working on making myself like them.:shhh:

Its an interesting lifestyle change so far, I feel more solid and strong, more well rested, more energy and better well being. Healthier I guess you would call it.:biglaugh:

[Acid44]

haha i was originally gonna say cock-blocked but it wouldnt have made sense :p

that's one way to look at it i guess, although im sure a healthier diet wouldnt hurt me *my brain--->:poke:<--- me*

[The Schizoid Hatter]

Is that the unhealthy food poking your brain? Meh, it could be me. Seems like something I'd do.
Alas, I digress.
Eat sushi, get healthier, stop getting sushi-cock-blocked, don't die. The main idea here. :D

[Mr.A]

I'll always be an advocate of a healthier lifestyle. Nutrition, to me, seems to be one of the more funs one to play with.

[The Schizoid Hatter]

I'll always be an advocate of a healthier lifestyle. Nutrition, to me, seems to be one of the more funs one to play with.

Indeed, good sir. Good nutrition is essential to living a full, healthy life. :D

[Acid44]

Hatter Is that the unhealthy food poking your brain? Meh, it could be me. Seems like something I'd do.

basically lol


Eat sushi, get healthier, stop getting sushi-cock-blocked, don't die. The main idea here. :D

haha that about nails it... i guess another thing to throw in would be to stop procrastinating too... ill get on it tommorow :ninja:

[The Schizoid Hatter]

haha that about nails it... i guess another thing to throw in would be to stop procrastinating too... ill get on it tommorow :ninja:

Procrastinate now! It's always been my motto.
That and never go ass to mouth, but perhaps I need to stop watching Clerks II... >_>

[Mr.A]

Goodluck Acidd44, I'll be the one to let you know its a bitch. Fun though so its not too hard to find the motivation to do it. I remember when I went and got my "first" breakfast, sat down, put the plate in front of me, "Oh shit.":bigok:

@Hatter: your a nerd.

[Acid44]

Procrastinate now! It's always been my motto.
That and never go ass to mouth, but perhaps I need to stop watching Clerks II... >_>

nice motto hahaha

[off topic] holy shit i watched that movie a few weeks ago and had a huge discussion about that with my gf... she says it's fine somethimes im like :puke: [/off topic]


Goodluck Acidd44, I'll be the one to let you know its a bitch. Fun though so its not too hard to find the motivation to do it. I remember when I went and got my "first" breakfast, sat down, put the plate in front of me, "Oh shit.":bigok:

thanks but im scared to do it... i have an immense fear of putting new things in my mouth... im really picky about food and on a really low budget so going and buying a bunch of new things when there's a 10% chance of liking them is a scarey thought...

[The Schizoid Hatter]

[off topic] I watched it with my best friend in theatres. Then nonstop when it arrived on dvd.
Then I made the brilliant decision of watching it with my bf at the time. Heh, turns out he wasn't such a fan of subversive comedy. Which is wonderful that I found out then. Hence, bf at the time. [/off topic]

Oh yeah, healthy. Be it. I nearly forgot the topic du jour. Of course, I say this as I consume a fuckton of energy drinks, my main vice.

[Mr.A]

I believe its possible to like anything, you just have to create a new habit to replace the old one.:yup:

I used to be picky about foods, not now.:naughty:

EDIT: Energy drinks are one of those things that make me want to slit my wrists. I have a lot of those. [Emo alert]

[The Schizoid Hatter]

@Hatter: your a nerd.

Thanks, dear! I bear that title proudly.

[Mr.A]

*Sighs deeply* Nerds usually do...:rocketwho

Holy shit that smiley is awesome! Didn't know we had that one.:clap:

I want to include soy into my diet but haven't decided on the best way to do that. Any suggestions besides just eating soy nuts?

[Acid44]

[off topic] I watched it with my best friend in theatres. Then nonstop when it arrived on dvd.
Then I made the brilliant decision of watching it with my bf at the time. Heh, turns out he wasn't such a fan of subversive comedy. Which is wonderful that I found out then. Hence, bf at the time. [/off topic]

Oh yeah, healthy. Be it. I nearly forgot the topic du jour. Of course, I say this as I consume a fuckton of energy drinks, my main vice.

haha "at the time" so i'm guessing the subversive comedy factor was a big one in choosing "yo' man"?

ahhh, energy drinks, im basically addicted to monster... i cant get enough of those fuckin things... i used to drink a 12 pack a day but really cut down now lol

I believe its possible to like anything, you just have to create a new habit to replace the old one.:yup:

I used to be picky about foods, not now.:naughty:

this may be true but... i got nothin... you win... new things in my mouth, here i come:fest30:

[Mr.A]

this may be true but... i got nothin... you win... new things in my mouth, here i come:fest30:

[Gay Alert]

lol, jk jk you can do what you want with your mouth. HAhahaa.

[The Schizoid Hatter]

@ Mr. A- 8th Continent's vanilla soy milk is quite lovely. Give it a go. :D

@ Acid- Monster is my addiction, as well. I consume, on average, 6 cans a day. I'm sure if I were given a blood test at the moment, they'd extract pure caffeine. :yup: 12 pack? You. Are. God.

[Acid44]

[Gay Alert]

lol, jk jk you can do what you want with your mouth. HAhahaa.

hahahah

call a gay alert all you want but i'll at least know that im only bi (with limits),,, which just means im greedy cause i get both:flirt:

@ Acid- Monster is my addiction, as well. I consume, on average, 6 cans a day. I'm sure if I were given a blood test at the moment, they'd extract pure caffeine. :yup: 12 pack? You. Are. God.

haha that makes a whole 2 people (including myself) that ive ever heard of that can stand the taste of it lol

would i be more godly if i told my other dirty secret that after i drank half of each one id mix in one of those 5 hour energy shots (not on all of them... maybe 4 out of every 12 pack) ? lol that's probably what fucked me up the most Xd

[Mr.A]

HAhaaaha, you got me there, I'm pretty happy with just the females, but I respect you and what you want to do.

Caffeine is so bad for you, its the reason I gave up coffee and the energy drinks. Someone just the other day was telling me how he used to be a long distance runner and caffeine ruined it for him, I felt sorry for him.:trink26:

Is tofu made from soy?

EDIT:
@Acid: Holy shit.

[The Schizoid Hatter]

@ Acid- Holy messiah. Lucky you; 5 hour energy shots haven't an effect on me. At all. Cheers, you lucky bastard, you. :trink26:

[Acid44]

HAhaaaha, you got me there, I'm pretty happy with just the females, but I respect you and what you want to do.


cheers

Is tofu made from soy?

i'm pretty sure it is... a great tasting way to get some soy into your diet is soy milk and baileys liqour... plus theres the bonus of catching a buzz



EDIT:
@Acid: Holy shit.

hahaha

@ Acid- Holy messiah. Lucky you; 5 hour energy shots haven't an effect on me. At all. Cheers, you lucky bastard, you. :trink26:

they dont do much to me either but you can definately tell theres a difference between three monsters and three monsters mixed with those... it's like liquid god in a tin jail cell...

[The Schizoid Hatter]

Is tofu made from soy?

Yes, it is. Coagulated soy milk curds.

[.VX]

@.VX: I've been trying to figure out what I should be eating...mostly salads I make at home with romaine lettuce, carrotts, a lil turkey meat, broccoli with a touch of dressing. Fruits like strawberries, raspberries, pomegranates, oranges and apples. The only nuts lately are pistachios and almonds. Juices and some cereals. Only stuff I really enjoy but I'm slowly reaching out and trying other vegetables. Like celery and the carrots. I usually detest them but I'm working on making myself like them.:shhh:

You'll need to have lots of nuts and legumes to substitute the meat, but apart from that it seems good. If you're looking to try new foods, then you should try some Hare Krishna dishes.

Its an interesting lifestyle change so far, I feel more solid and strong, more well rested, more energy and better well being. Healthier I guess you would call it.:biglaugh:
Do you still eat red meat at all?

[The Schizoid Hatter]

it's like liquid god in a tin jail cell...
Best thing I've heard all night.

[Acid44]

Best thing I've heard all night.

haha... that seems like a pretty slow night Xd

[The Schizoid Hatter]

I heard many, many disturbing things tonight. None of which pertain to this thread.
:poke:

[Mr.A]

Interesting....

I've always known the health benefits of soy and wanted to include it in my diet but was turned off by what I thought prevously to be true. Which is that soy makes men's testosterone go down. After a lot of reading I decided that was false. So the idea of putting it in my diet right now seems like an excellent idea, have to pick some up next time I'm out. Soy milk always had a bland taste but oh well I'm in it for health. Maybe some tofu in my salads would be nice. Tofu is good.

@.VX: Thought I would tell you my stance on soy has changed. I was wrong.:oops::wave:
I didn't really eat alot of red meat before, but I suppose I would if it was there, I still don't see too much wrong with it, its just usually high in bad fats. So I stick to leaner meats. Thanks for the legumes and nuts advice, I'll use it. I'll have to look into this Hare Krishna stuff.

@Acid: The only liquor I allow myself to drink is Vodka. I dislike alcohol...but oh well, bottoms up! Haha.

[Acid44]

I heard many, many disturbing things tonight. None of which pertain to this thread.
:poke:

disturbuing things are always fun though:ahso: :crazy:


@Acid: The only liquor I allow myself to drink is Vodka. I dislike alcohol...but oh well, bottoms up! Haha.

haha oh how i miss teh vodka :(

baileys is good though mang, you should try it... im not saying drink it heavily or anything but it's great for a sip every now and again

[The Schizoid Hatter]

Disturbing things make life worth living. :yup:

Speaking of Bailey's, have you heard of Old Greg? xD

[Acid44]

Disturbing things make life worth living. :yup:

Speaking of Bailey's, have you heard of Old Greg? xD

hell the fuck yes that they do :bigeyes:

Old Greg? nope...

[Mr.A]

baileys is good though mang, you should try it... im not saying drink it heavily or anything but it's great for a sip every now and again

I think I've tried it, it certainely looks tasty. My favorite tasting alcoholic drink is by far some Southern Comfort. They did such a good job in that drink, covering up the taste of alcohol with sugars. lol. High proof too of course.

What Vodka Acid? Absolute 100 for me, on the rocks.

Disturbing things disturb me...usually.:puke::ahso:

[The Schizoid Hatter]

If you haven't heard of Old Greg, don't look into it, dude.

Goodnight, senors. I'm off to sketch and scheme.
And sleep.

If my insomnia subsides tonight. *crosses fingers*

[Acid44]

@ Mr.A - Absolute - 40% or polar ice - also 40% for me ;D

also, dont puke on my asian guy, that's grounds for castration :ahso::ahso::ahso:

@Hatter - sorry was too lazy to type your full name :p

goodnight... and i think i ust understood your location, though i could be wrong... does "The Insomniac City" = New York (the city that never sleeps)?

oh and BTW im gonna have to look into it now...:bigeyes:

[Mr.A]

I mentioned before insomnia sucks. If you ever seek counsel, I think I could help you. Nighty night.:shhh:

I thought the city that never sleeps was L.A. but it could mean what you implied too Acid, who knows.

[.VX]

I dislike the taste of soy milk, so I don't drink it unless I'm out of cow's milk. Tofu I generally avoid because it takes on a weird slimy texture if it's not cooked properly, which it often is. But when it is cooked properly it's great. I buy processed soy Sausages and "Not Chicken" (that's what it's called) from the vegetarian corner of the supermarket. Although in Australia there's no where near as many vegetarian options in supermarkets as there are in Europe, and probably America.

There's also something which is said sort of like corn/kworn which I think is made out of some sort of mushroom, and that's deliscious. (It can't be bought in Aus, so I've only ever heard people say it, and subsequently have no clue at all how it's spelt)

[The Schizoid Hatter]

Ah, yes. NYC. You got me, you lazy fizzle.
Good luck with Old Greg, dear.

And good night. :wave:

[The Schizoid Hatter]

I mentioned before insomnia sucks. If you ever seek counsel, I think I could help you. Nighty night.:shhh:


I'll look into that. Thank you. :D

[Acid44]

I mentioned before insomnia sucks. If you ever seek counsel, I think I could help you. Nighty night.:shhh:

help me. i'm a major insomniac lol that's why i spend so much time here reading just about everything on here...


@Hatter - i'm forever greatful to you for making me look up old greg... thats the best thing i've ever seen in my life:biglaugh:

Ah, yes. NYC. You got me, you lazy fizzle.
Good luck with Old Greg, dear.

And good night. :wave:



hehe i win

[.VX]

If my insomnia subsides tonight. *crosses fingers*

Have you tried Valerian before? It tastes absolutely revolting, but it helped me when my insomnia was at it's worst, and it gives you some pretty trippy dreams too.

... Oh, yeah, and it's vegetarian also.

EDIT: What's happening to my thread?

[Mr.A]

Hmm, I'm a big fan of cows milk. I'll keep that in mind about the tofu. Not Chicken? lol that cracks me up. I'm avoiding processed foods so anything thats made to imitate anything is probably out, but I would try it if I had seen it. I've never heard of this kworn, but I'll have to be on the lookout. The foods I'm eating already are delicious, but I know I'll tire of this new habit unless I venture out to find new foods.

No offense Hatter but fuck NYC, that place is nuts. lol. Your welcome and goodnight again.

EDIT: As to not hijack .VX's thread PM if your really curious.

@.VX ack, I hate looking to medications to fix my problems. I think you created a thread to talk specifically about your insomnia didn't you? lol or maybe we just talked about it for a while on another thread. I can't remember.

[Acid44]

Have you tried Valerian before? It tastes absolutely revolting, but it helped me when my insomnia was at it's worst, and it gives you some pretty trippy dreams too.

... Oh, yeah, and it's vegetarian also.

EDIT: What's happening to my thread?

Valerian? what's that? where might one get it? i've never even heard of it before...


we stole the thread.... i guess you can have it back now:worried:

[Th0r]

This is about Vegetarianism.

Not Sushi.

Not diets.

Not healthy living.

Not Valerian.

This is about Vegetarianism. Feel free to go ahead and create threads on any of the above topics. Also any more Off-Topic posts in this thread will be deleted.

[Mr.A]

I've been keeping up with my diet thus far .VX. This Hare Krishna, is it all cooked? I'm trying to stick mostly to raw foods as well.

This is about Vegetarianism.

Not Sushi.

Not diets.

Not healthy living.

Not Valerian.

This is about Vegetarianism. Feel free to go ahead and create threads on any of the above topics. Also any more Off-Topic posts in this thread will be deleted.

^This...Hahahaha, I knew this was coming! Power trip! :nutkick:
Delete this! :bling1:

jk, jk.

Seriously though, sorry if I hurt your feelings Th0r.

I haven't tried sushi either.

^This. More lulz. I had sushi today actually, delicious.:wink:


:banned: Haha

[.VX]

I've been keeping up with my diet thus far .VX. This Hare Krishna, is it all cooked? I'm trying to stick mostly to raw foods as well.


Yes, it's cooked, but some of the dishes are absolutely delicious and quite unlike any other sort of food. It's also incredibly cheap, and if it's actually cooked by people of that religion then they'll give it to you for free if you can't afford it.

[The Schizoid Hatter]

Yes, it's cooked, but some of the dishes are absolutely delicious and quite unlike any other sort of food. It's also incredibly cheap, and if it's actually cooked by people of that religion then they'll give it to you for free if you can't afford it.

Indeed. My friend Eli's family used to own a Hare Krishna eatery and they would often feed those with low incomes for free.
The food is lovely. Give it a try, dear.

[Mr.A]

I do agree, he's got me interested.:headbang:

This diet change is progressively becoming a better idea. Everyday I feel, lighter, happier, healthier, stronger. It's quite intoxicating, I must admit.

[.VX]

Awesome.

I've heard that in regards to red meat. People are generally more easy going and relaxed after they stop eating it. What meats have you been eating?

[Mr.A]

Actually the only meat I've eating since I made this "lifestyle" change is turkey, and in very small amounts thus far. Wait, no, I did have a slice of bacon with my breakfast the other day, so I guess just turkey and pork so far. My mind is still open on eating whatever meats are present for my meat in my diet, but that of course could change. Only time will tell.:sly:

[.VX]

Mr.A, are you still mostly veg? Got any thoughts on the long term effects? And is it cheaper?

[Mr.A]

Yes I am. It has been a wonderful change and I regret none of it so far. Actually recently I also went completely organic. I wouldn't say I've been doing it long enough to understand long term effects but from what I gather atm they can only be positive. How much food I consume has also been less yet I still use the bathroom just as often. I only eat when I'm hungry and only till I'm full. I try to hit most of my cravings with each meal. A handful of nuts or beans, veggies of any kind, and something sweet usually does me just right. Since I've been eating less, my grocery bills have dropped. My wife and have made this switch together. Before we would spend roughly $120 on groceries about every week and two or three days. Now in that amount of time we only spend around $80. Even though the original reason for changing my nutrition was mostly for the health benefits it has proved to be very nice on the wallet. Who wouldn't want an extra $35 a week?

Oh and also, almost all of my foods now are raw foods. Easy to prepare, no carcinogenic matter. From what I hear, cooked food is carcinogenic. Cancer anyone?:eek2:

Gotta admit, I do treat myself at least once a week to a nice unhealthy, cooked, usually hard on the heart meal. On the plus though, sometimes I make that meal something ok for me to eat, like sushi. Hooray for sushi! Thanks for asking .VX hows all your nutrition doing? Do you require any supplements?

I would definitely recommend this type of change to anyone who is curious to try.

[.VX]

I don't take any supplements, but in the past I've taken iron pills. Cooked food carcinogenic? Where'd you hear that?

[Mr.A]

I think I first heard about it while reading about naturalist and naturist but it's
all over the net, this is a simple and easy to understand article.

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/cooked.html

Fifth paragraph would answer your question specifically. Interesting?

[.VX]

Damn.

[Mr.A]

Hahahaha, what? Please elaborate. lol

[thief]

I hear, cooked food is carcinogenic. Cancer anyone?:eek2:
.

If thats the case then 6 billion people must have cancer. Bullshit. Quacks. One year chocolate is bad for you... next its good. Coffee gives you cancer... no wait THIS YEAR its stops alzeihmers. :thumbsdow