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Day_N_Night
18th February 2009, 07:17 AM
Similar to the "Survival and Police Chases" thread except this one pertains to Tips Police Chases on Foot and avoiding Police after a crime where you need to get away ASAP

I've had times were i had to run alot and go through back alleys in order to avoid the police, only once did the police catch us and thats when we got cocky and didnt do the usual stuff to avoid the 5-0 instead we ran up the road abit and smoked some weed as we walked.

Discuss.

The Schizoid Hatter
18th February 2009, 07:51 AM
As I live in a metropolis, I prefer to run into derelict buildings. It seems foolish, but I've gotten away each time. I'm terrific at hiding.

Or, in theory, I could carry a hat/wig and change of clothes on my person. Just wear mildly loose clothing to the crime and wear tighter clothing beneath it. Therefore, as you're running, but out of the fuzz's line of vision, you can tear off your "crime" clothes. Alternatively, run into a busy area, i.e. a crowd, and tear off your clothes and put on the hat/wig, as suspicious as it'll look.

Day_N_Night
18th February 2009, 08:16 AM
Or, in theory, I could carry a hat/wig and change of clothes on my person. Just wear mildly loose clothing to the crime and wear tighter clothing beneath it. Therefore, as you're running, but out of the fuzz's line of vision, you can tear off your "crime" clothes. .


Similarily, when going out at night to do stuff... I wear my white hoody. The con of it is that its recognizable because i live in a small town, . The Plus side is that it blends in with the snow and it came in handy once after having to run home one night, i took shelter in some snowed out woods and used those giant snowhhills to hid behind.

redjoker
18th February 2009, 11:31 AM
Bust them in the throat and walk away if you can. No point in running, losing your breath, and getting kicked around while you're gasping for breath. If that isn't an option the best advice I can give you is to throw shit behind you to slow them down. Shove people hard if they are in your way. If someone does grab you, hit them in the throat and stick your fingers in their eyes or something vicious so they let go of you. You have to get away before the others can jump on you.

thief
18th February 2009, 12:03 PM
I knew someone who robbed a bank (Just the tellers)... got 5000. He had his normal clothes on and just a hat and shades... walking out of the bank he went inside the pub next door, went to the toilet, changed his top and ditched the hat and shades, orderd a beer and watched from the window less than 5min later the police race around in their cars and running around the area looking for him.
Somtimes its just a matter of blending in with the crowd.

Mr.A
18th February 2009, 12:08 PM
Actually, usually thats the only skill you need to hide. Assuming theres people around and your good enough at it.:shh:

thief
19th February 2009, 01:29 PM
Actually, usually thats the only skill you need to hide. Assuming theres people around and your good enough at it.:shh:

I would say you would need more skills then just hiding but I get what your saying. If you cant hide what do you do? Fight or flight? 9 times out of 10 I would choose flight, only because I know I could outrun most people on foot... "Run away, live to fight another day" Dont see this as cowardness, because if your faced with 2 or more cops chances are your gonna get taken down. You are not Quinton "Rampage" Jackson or Frank Mir and even if you are, im sure a nice little stun gun to the chest will soon sort you out.

redjoker
19th February 2009, 03:36 PM
I've decided to make a better contribution since many of you seem to be the runner type. I am not the type to run unless the consequences are serious so I would use force generously in any escape attempt. One must take into account the gravity of the situation when deciding how much force one should use in their attempt to escape. Knowing this should help you determine whether or not doing something illegal is really worth it? Is it really worth running after stealing a candy bar when you can't really see yourself getting away with delivering a beating? Then is it really worth stealing that candy bar if you know you might have to run to keep it? If your really hungry then you might not mind bashing someones head in for it. Not being able to use force puts a huge limitation on you. Seeing this is about being chased by police I'll keep it that. For one to be a master of escape and evasion you would probably want to take a more holistic approach rather than just limiting yourself to one type of scenario. What if you are being chased by people that want to kill you or steal something valuable from you? The tactics you use will hopefully be slightly different. Let us begin.

If you know you are about to do something illegal you should decide beforehand whether or not you will be running if it comes down to that. Once you make a decision don't change it. The flip flop will fuck you up. Also, you should have an escape route planned before hand if you are serious about it. Seriously, a tshirt and a hat sitting behind a heavy door you know you can lock quickly isn't all that elaborate but it can work with some situations. If you plan on running, never think about giving up, and never think about getting caught, this will fuck you up. A true runner will still be thinking about escape even if they are behind bars. You must stay focused and keep calm. Staying focused and keeping a calm head will put you far ahead of the other 99% that run from the police. When you run from the police you will be trying to outwit them. You will be more focused on slowing them down and widening the gap.

You have to think about it from a cops point of view. He is trained and paid to capture people. More often than not, they have quite a bit of experience with it. Hopefully you aren't the predictable, scared, easily winded animal that is usually running from them. You should be trying to outwit them and the radio. You might be able outrun the piggy but you can't outrun the radio. If you were last seen heading north you shouldn't be running north anymore. For instance, it might be best to go back the way you came and hide somewhere south of your starting point. That all really depends on what kind of shit storm you left behind and how famous you are though. Listen to the cop if you can. He might actually be yelling into the radio where he wants his friends to meet up with you guys at. Remember not to be predictable. Appearing predictable is something you need to be doing so you can change things up once they lose a visual on you. Since you don't know where they are at all times, it should be your top priority to figure out where they might be so you can avoid them. Getting them to think you're heading somewhere else is a good way to figure out where they are going to be.

Just because you ran from one pig doesn't mean his friends in their cruiser won't be patrolling the area looking for you. The longer the heat is on you the harder it is to escape. They will have more people on you and a better idea of how you operate. Try and be as deceptive as possible. Doing things like making a big jump that they won't make and then limping when your not really hurt is a good example. Everyone in the background that is chasing you might come in to pick you up and they might lower their alert. If you are focused and calm, you should be able to find opportunities to trick them. You also need to figure out if the guy following you respects you. They are usually trained to take corners with caution. If the guy keeps bounding around corners like a dog after a rabbit, make him think twice about it. Remember to make them lose their visual on you before you really make an attempt to flee the area. Discretion is usually more important than haste at that point. The longer you are undetected the harder its going to be for them to find you again. After the heat has died down a bit you need to change your clothes and gtfo of dodge. Friends, or at least perceived friends, can help you blend into the crowd more easily. If they are on the look out for a single person wearing a certain set of clothes they might not eyeball a person of similar build as hard if they were hanging out with friends a mile away wearing different clothes.

tl/dr: Plan ahead. Stay calm and focused. Do not become an animal. You don't have to sprint. Be deceitful. Don't hesitate. You're really outrunning the radio, not the cop. Run from the cops, maneuver quietly out of the hot zone. Change clothes (physical description) and gtfo.

The Schizoid Hatter
19th February 2009, 05:24 PM
I adore you, redjoker, I do.

You brought up a brilliant point when you mentioned appearing predictable. Let them believe you are weak. Let them believe you are slow. That way, they won't call for backup as easily. That way, you have more time to escape. That way, they don't see it coming when that weak fugitive disappears into a crowd, never to be seen again.

Walk with a visible limp. Speak in a foreign accent. Paint on scars (ones that can be easily removed, please). Disguises are your best bet when you aren't exactly a runner. Be smooth about it, though. Jail isn't exactly appealing.

Day_N_Night
21st February 2009, 08:52 PM
A dum idea i had awhile aback was to bring a fire extinguisher along and when your making your get away make a giant smoke screen. When i bounced this idea off someone i was reminded that the one in my basement is too big.

A couple years ago i found a few Fire Extinguishers and if i remember right they do make a good smoke screen for these sort of occasions but a smaller one is recomended, however im not sure if a smaller one is capable of making the same quality of "smoke screen" a medium or a large one can.

Also i havent used one to make a "smoke screen" during the day so i cant attest to their usefulness therein but at night the "smoke" they provide gives a good cover and looks just like fog, but once you're in the smokescreen "cloud" it smells awful.

Again just a dumb idea. But who knows, maybe a smaller one that you could easily pack in a shoulder bag or a Pack might be useful in such an occasion(Running from cops, escaping after a crime)?

The Schizoid Hatter
22nd February 2009, 03:07 AM
Also i havent used one to make a "smoke screen" during the day so i cant attest to their usefulness therein but at night the "smoke" they provide gives a good cover and looks just like fog, but once you're in the smokescreen "cloud" it smells awful.


The incredibly unreliable Totse had a text file on DIY smokescreens. I shall look deeper into the topic.

.VX
22nd February 2009, 08:45 AM
It would be better to just spray the cops in the face and run.

Th0r
22nd February 2009, 12:12 PM
It would be better to just spray the cops in the face and run.

But if you're caught you're going to have more charges against you. Is it really worth it?

A dum idea i had awhile aback was to bring a fire extinguisher along and when your making your get away make a giant smoke screen. When i bounced this idea off someone i was reminded that the one in my basement is too big.

A couple years ago i found a few Fire Extinguishers and if i remember right they do make a good smoke screen for these sort of occasions but a smaller one is recomended, however im not sure if a smaller one is capable of making the same quality of "smoke screen" a medium or a large one can.

Also i havent used one to make a "smoke screen" during the day so i cant attest to their usefulness therein but at night the "smoke" they provide gives a good cover and looks just like fog, but once you're in the smokescreen "cloud" it smells awful.

Again just a dumb idea. But who knows, maybe a smaller one that you could easily pack in a shoulder bag or a Pack might be useful in such an occasion(Running from cops, escaping after a crime)?

I've stolen and tested a variety of fire extinguishers before and the CO2 released from a fire extinguisher is not enough to cover you. Also if the fire extinguiser is standard you'll have to work out how to keep the pressure down in order to keep the CO2 flowing. Something could fuck up...

If you're pitched against a single officer with a fire extinguisher I genuinely think it would be better to spray the officer in the face or to attempt to knock him out with the extinguisher. One of my brothers idiot friends managed to spray himself in the face with a CO2 fire extinguisher [And film it. :saroll:] and from what I recall it was an unpleasant experience. Also even when the standard fire extinguishers are empty they are still heavy as hell [Which brings up the point of is it worth carrying one around with you?] which makes them good weapons.

We've also discussed homemade smoke screens in comparison to ones that you can purchase and concluded that ones you buy in comparison to KNO3+Sugar smoke bombs are better in the sense that they produce a better, thicker screen. The thread in which we discussed this is in C&E and is called KNO3 Smoke Bombs, or something similar. [The thread starter was .VX as well.]

I've got a load more to add to this...

Cheetah
27th February 2009, 04:15 AM
Don't make the mistake of running in a straight line. This only allows the pursuer to gain momentum. Ideally, you need to put as many obstacles between you and your pursuer as possible. Work out the escape route in relation to the crime scene, instead of acting on impulse. Always be ready to drop everything and run.