PDA

View Full Version : Simple, Devastating Fighting Method


iceniner
16th March 2009, 12:16 AM
Here's a fighting method I've developed.

As you will soon see, this method is simple and direct and anyone can learn it. All of the applications for this method can be found in Filipino martial arts, and in fact many of the FMA emptyhand methods exist within a form that I will give you, a form so short as to be almost ridiculous in its simplicity.

The form is as follows:
Raise right elbow so right hand covers your temple. Left hand slaps right elbow.
Right fist hammers down into left palm.
Right fist punches, left hand slaps right biceps

Repeat the three steps on the left, then alternate back and forth.

What is going on here is that you are grabbing with one hand and hammering or elbowing what you grabbed, then punching. Or the sequence can begin at some other point, such as the punch-and-slap-biceps.

He throws a right punch at your face. The "slap biceps" portion would represent a pat parry with your left hand simultaneous with a punch to his face or throat. Then, since the next movement in the sequence is the left side elbow, you would step in and elbow his temple with your left elbow while grabbing the side of his neck with your right, the hand that just punched.

Another application. He is throwing jabs at your face. Every time he jabs, perform the "slapping elbow" movement, moving your head out of the way and trying to redirect his punch into your upraised elbow. Since most people will headhunt in a fight this can be surprisingly effective, and the hand covering your temple will protect against the left hook which commonly follows a left jab. Furthermore, the elbow of the arm that is slapping is also raised somewhat and can stop bodyhooks or crosses from the other arm.

Then, the next movement in the sequence is "grab and hammer." Throw a left eyejab or rake past his eyes, then grab the back of his neck with your left hand while you hammer down on the bridge of his nose with your right. Alternatively you could grab his hand or arm and hammer down on it with the other hand, perhaps holding a marker, metal object or even a lighter to try to shatter the bones in the hand that you've grabbed or do nerve damage to numb muscles in his forearm or shoulder.

The next movement is "slap right biceps and punch." Since you've already hit his hand and jabbed at his eyes, and you may have the back of his neck, we're going to interpret that movement as a neck wrench followed by either a figure 4 choke or a takedown.

The neck break is performed thus. Since you have the back of his neck supported with your left hand, we'll interpret the "punch" portion of this movement as a long thrusting palmstrike to his chin with your right arm. This will at the very least rotate his head to his left. His chin will end up in your elbow area and his neck should then be available for a classic sleeper choke, or alternatively you can step behind one or both of his legs with your right foot, plant it, and then violently turn your hips to your left while continuing the extension of your right arm to your left. This will drop him like a wet sack of shit.

Another neck wrench off of the "slap biceps and punch:" Left hand grabs his hair, if available. Right arm extends, hacking against the right side of his neck (his right) while your left hand yanks forcefully. This will push him back and possibly injure his neck; follow up by continuing the cycle.

There are literally hundreds of applications for this very short series. You can view the blows as simple blows or blocks, or neckbreaks, or the upperbody portion of throws. The movements in between the steps have meaning too, if you look for it.

The point is that you are training your body in such a way as to be able to deliver numerous devastating blows one after another in a very efficient pattern. Even if someone else knows how to fight, there are a number of things in here that will throw them off their game, not least the "grab and hit" which will tend to neutralize fighters who rely on speed, and the fist destructions using your elbow which will really harm the game of a person who likes to stay at range and jab.

I will include one kicking movement with this system. This kick is a low kick to his shin or knee, with the inside of your foot: if you are kicking with your right leg, your toes will be facing out to the right. This means that you are less likely to miss because you have a much wider impact area than simply the toe of your shoe. Practice this kick until you can execute it easily without thinking about it, with either your lead or rear foot. Any forward step when in close range should be a kick to his shin.

And one other foot technique: after this kick, step on his foot to tack him to the ground, while continuing with the striking sequence. He can't help but fall over, and may very well break his ankle.

The combination of high and low blows, and the fast flowing strikes, should overwhelm most people very quickly, and there is great power available from the waist rotation necessary to switch sides. Experiment with it and you will see what I mean.

Practice this sequence until you can deliver three blows per second or more. A huge part of this is figuring out new applications for the movements and rehearsing them in your mind. Design and practice technique chains starting with limb destructions, moving to an attack to the face, then a takedown or throw. Figure out how to bridge the gap and close in, starting with each of the three blow types and moving through the sequence. Combine with rips and clawing motions to the face.

Most people don't hold up well at all to this sort of treatment.

This minisystem is a self-contained module which should function very well on its own if practiced hard. It will also combine with any other martial art to make traditional arts much nastier. You can perform many of the movements with a knife or palmstick in reverse grip: in a hammer-and-anvil blow, a palmstick will quite easily shatter bone.

A weakness of this method is that it doesn't have a long range component, it is really geared towards my personal fighting preference which is close-in assault. If you wanted to, you could add in basic thai boxing tactics (low thai round kicks in the open and closed box patterns) and you would have a very unpleasant system indeed.

But then it would just be Kali.

thief
16th March 2009, 01:04 AM
"marker, metal object or even a lighter to try to shatter the bones in the hand"

Shatter... not break, shatter no less. :tongue2: Unless the guy had girly hands they wont SHATTER... you might break a small bone or two IF your lucky.

What MA do you do?

iceniner
16th March 2009, 01:17 AM
Thief, take a piece of hard plastic or aluminum and pound it repeatedly into the back of your hand, as hard as you can. Put your hand on a table to simulate the anvil effect. Particularly when supported in that way, it takes much less force than you'd think to break bone. Even an obtusely pointed palmstick will powder bone at the point of impact.

It's actually funny to me that you'd choose that as a bone of contention. You can kill with a palmstick.

"What MA do you do?"

MA since 88, southeast asian (kali, silat, escrima, thai boxing) for the last 18 years.

thief
16th March 2009, 01:30 AM
Thief, take a piece of hard plastic or aluminum and pound it repeatedly into the back of your hand, as hard as you can. Put your hand on a table to simulate the anvil effect. Particularly when supported in that way, it takes much less force than you'd think to break bone. Even an obtusely pointed palmstick will powder bone at the point of impact.

It's actually funny to me that you'd choose that as a bone of contention. You can kill with a palmstick.

"What MA do you do?"

MA since 88, southeast asian (kali, silat, escrima, thai boxing) for the last 18 years.

I do Muay Thai and Brazilian Ju Jitsu myself. BJJ for less than 6 monts and Muay Thai for the last 6 years with dif teachers over the years.

I Still dont belive you could shatter bones in a hand with a lighter or small plastic object OR EVEN a palmstick. The ones that might break (Not shatter) would be the Metacarpal bones, though they are bigger than the other bones in the hand but because there is less movement it would be easer.
Do you really belive a palmstick could kill someone? Sure if you repeteadly hit them about 500 times into their head. Have you even seen or know someone to be killed with a palmstick???? For anyone who doesnt know what a palmstick is... its a piece of metal around 4 inches in size. link below.
http://www.c3-sportshop.de/catalog/images/keychains-self-defense.jpg

If its the traditional one then sure it could indeed kill. link below

http://www.eskrimakaliarnis.com/images/dulos.jpg

iceniner
16th March 2009, 01:44 AM
It takes very little impact to the skull to kill by brain injury (contra-coup, hematomas, shattered temple, medulla, et cetera et cetera). Such blows will cause instant unconsciousness followed by bleeding in the brain, coma and death-- that is, from one hit. Even wide-area impacts that do not cause fractures can kill; this is the reason concussions are so risky. That's why you so often hear of people dying after hitting their heads in bar fights, et cetera.

Point impacts involving cracked or shattered bone are much worse, and reinforced bashes like the ones I'm talking about are worse still.

There are also internal organ blows that are not quite as risky but still dangerous; chief would be the liver and kidneys. Any of these aren't going to be much of a problem though in modern hospitals, not from a palm stick.

In short, you should really re-examine the palm stick because they're much, much worse than you seem to think. A hammerfist is a very powerful blow and combined with the concentration of force onto a much smaller point you're looking at power that does shatter bone.

crazy white guy
16th March 2009, 06:02 AM
I hope your not taking credit for this, it is an easily seen parallel to combinations of techniques from jeetkudo and that very slow martial art whoes name escapes me.

icharianchem
16th March 2009, 06:09 AM
ease up ya'll, this seem s to reflect what little ive been able to peice together from being beaten up alot. I know nothing of martial arts but people trying to hurt me is farmiliar and this looks like effective shit.

iceniner
16th March 2009, 06:27 AM
I hope your not taking credit for this, it is an easily seen parallel to combinations of techniques from jeetkudo and that very slow martial art whoes name escapes me.

Note the part where I stated this:

All of the applications for this method can be found in Filipino martial arts, and in fact many of the FMA emptyhand methods exist within a form that I will give you, a form so short as to be almost ridiculous in its simplicity.

The "form" if it's long enough to be called such is similar to pieces silat serak and isn't found anywhere under JKD, except insofar as kali and silat are taught under the JKD umbrella. The synthesis of the mini-system and the interpretations of many of the blows are mine.

If you're saying that it's similar to tai chi, that's incorrect. If by "Jeet Kune Do" you're talking about Jun Fan, which is usually what people refer to when they say "JKD class," that's also incorrect.

Hope that helps.

crazy white guy
16th March 2009, 06:29 AM
Ah, sorry about that. Tai Chi! thats the one!

iceniner
16th March 2009, 06:31 AM
Yeah bro, if you're thinking that this is similar to tai chi then my description must be deficient because tai chi is nowhere close to this in any respect.

crazy white guy
16th March 2009, 06:36 AM
No, Tai Chi is very impressive when you see it's benifits first hand. Someone who does taichi and another similar martial art will have a very large advantage over someone of the same height and weight with the same secondary art.

If you analyse the techniques, many are very similar to what you described. I Studied TaeKwonDo and it also has some fairly similar techniques. Many with the same benifits as you describe. But overall, you would be just as much benifited by any martial art against an inexperianced opponent.

iceniner
16th March 2009, 06:41 AM
No, Tai Chi is very impressive when you see it's benifits first hand. Someone who does taichi and another similar martial art will have a very large advantage over someone of the same height and weight with the same secondary art.

I didn't say it wasn't impressive. I said that it isn't similar at all to the striking system I described above. It's not. At all.

Neither is what you're likely referring to as JKD (Jun Fan) because you don't see hammer-and-anvil strikes in Jun Fan.

If you analyse the techniques, many are very similar to what you described

No. Again, there aren't typically supported strikes in Tai Chi.

Edit: Maybe you were thinking of the clothesline throw when you said that. That does look rather like a tai chi throw, but I intended the throws to be secondary to the strikes and more just for illustration of ways of interpreting the movements-- throws and wrist locks and suchlike tend to be much more difficult to learn than strikes, and I want this system to be easy to learn. It's hard to understand motions from text descriptions so if I'm not describing it well, don't read more into it than below:

1) Grab something and elbow what you grabbed.
2) Grab something else and pound it with the same hand that elbowed, or pound him on the collarbone or head.
3) Parry and punch, or just punch, with the same hand that just pounded. Then grab with that hand and repeat on the other side.

Repeat on the other side. Practice it and you've got a system with numerous extremely nasty interpretations if you look for them.

YMMV as they used to say, or Your Mileage May Vary!