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iceman69
24th May 2009, 07:53 AM
Here might be a revenue stream. Kidneys 40k and up for 1 kidney!
adopt a bunch of foreign brats and harvest a kidney from each of them and shit if u get broke you can just part them out.:banana:
each brat has 2 kidneys 2x40k = $80,000 and im sure a heart is worth 40-50,000 or more
shit by the time you sell their eyeballs n shit your talking a quarter million each bratt.
4 refugee bratts and your a millionaire... Toss their organs in the beer cooler. Too bad u couldnt ebay them!:banana:
all you would need is some morphine lollipops and a good sharp buck knife, few bags of ice and fedex them overnight on dry ice like they do steaks
fuckem
shetlan
24th May 2009, 08:03 AM
Anyone else wondering why this guy got run off bombshock?
iceman69
24th May 2009, 08:10 AM
Actually shelton ,
I was not run off I chose to fuck with the a hole mod because hes a smartass and I enjoyed it! I dont appreciate homosexual comments towards me . Did I over react? I dont think so. And the mod seemed to think it was alright to be trolling for peters and not sticking to topic. So I enlightened myself with 30 log ins and about 150 posts. shit was there for days. Do you think im gone? come on? I have a user name with over 1000 posts... I hadn't posted shit there for a year and a half. But thanks for your 2 cents. Nice to see your second post! lets go for 3
I however have been here a long long time and rorta rules. so yea in a nutshell when you tell the mod to lick your dogs balls shit happens! enjoyed it alot. Maybe I am sadistic but I enjoy fucking with people who do me wrong to a evil extent! If im treated with respect you will get the same. See I have the time to make someones life suck and sometimes some people need it:sucks::bling1:
Day_N_Night
24th May 2009, 08:14 AM
Adopting them and bringing them to your country of residence would be impractical and time consuming. I don't see why you couldn't just go to the country where they live, kidnap them and harvest their organs then and there. Alot less expensive and less liklehood of getting caught.
I've heard that in a India, a doctor would trick poor people into being operated on and harvest their organs unbeknowst to them. Then he'd sell organ transplants to rich westerners for around the same margine you're proposing.
Needless to say he was caught, but not before he harvested the organs of some 500 people.
If you're doing this you must not have much of a conscience though.
iceman69
24th May 2009, 08:20 AM
Adopting them and bringing them to your country of residence would be impractical and time consuming. I don't see why you couldn't just go to the country where they live, kidnap them and harvest their organs then and there. Alot less expensive and less liklehood of getting caught.
I've heard that in a India, a doctor would trick poor people into being operated on and harvest their organs unbeknowst to them. Then he'd sell organ transplants to rich westerners for around the same margine you're proposing.
Needless to say he was caught, but not before he harvested the organs of some 500 people.
If you're doing this you must not have much of a conscience though.
I AGREE I COULDNT DO IT. I had to post something the forum was kinda slow tonight :saevilw:
Day_N_Night
24th May 2009, 08:25 AM
No harm in that i guess.
But ya, if i was strapped the cash i could probably do it and i wouldn't have to victimize many people before i made enough money to live on for some time.
iceman69
24th May 2009, 08:27 AM
No harm in that i guess.
But ya, if i was strapped the cash i could probably do it and i wouldn't have to victimize many people before i made enough money to live on for some time.
:shocked::yikes::shocked::yikes::shocked::yikes::s hocked::yikes::shocked::yikes:
what would you use ? Chain saw? sawzall? :saevilw:
Day_N_Night
24th May 2009, 08:53 AM
what would you use ? Chain saw? sawzall? :saevilw:
I'd stick the little orphan under on the of these :firedevil
http://rockwelltools.com/images/products/zoom/RK7031L.jpg
....But in all seriousness i would have an actual doctor perform the operation....Chain saw would be too messy and probably would damage the organ....
crazy white guy
24th May 2009, 09:55 AM
One thing that your ignoring is the fact that you need mad connections to sell more than one kidney per year. So if you have these hookups, you could simply pay a professional crew to take joggers off the streets, put them under anesthesia and take their kidneys. Then you patch them up good and new and drop them off somewhere a day or two later when the scars are healed enough for them to be sent home. Thus, you arent looked for as a murderer and people arent as pissed as they would be if you had killed their husband/fiance ect.
Joggers because you can be reasonably certain that they are healthy and fit.
iceman69
24th May 2009, 09:59 AM
Anasthesia ? crazy white guy your getting soft in your old age. LAST YEAR YOU WOULD HAVE SAID CLUB THEM LIKE SEALS AND SKIN THE LITTLE BASTARDS:banana:
odin_dax
24th May 2009, 12:02 PM
The more and more you type, Iceman...
shetlan
24th May 2009, 07:08 PM
Actually shelton ,
I was not run off I chose to fuck with the a hole mod because hes a smartass and I enjoyed it! I dont appreciate homosexual comments towards me .
Really? Nobody in the thread where you where run off recalls or can find the "homosexual comments" you claim where made.
They remember you being egotistical, useless, and whiny; but nobody remembers the gay thing - hmmm, wonder why?
was that nice to say shelton? Bombshock sucks if you couldnt tell I trashed the account on purpose. I think you will like rorta better look at the archives some good stuff here and a good community. instead of a bunch of inept noobs
Sure you did (insert rolling eyes). You specifically complained that nobody was creditting you for you ever-so-great intelligence (insert more eye rolling).
I seriously doubt that I'll enjoy rorta, most of this site is filled with the most asinine and ridiculous trash I've ever seen (which is what I've been told by several of the RX alumni) - I'm sure you'll love it though.
iceman69
24th May 2009, 09:56 PM
Really? Nobody in the thread where you where run off recalls or can find the "homosexual comments" you claim where made.
They remember you being egotistical, useless, and whiny; but nobody remembers the gay thing - hmmm, wonder why?
Sure you did (insert rolling eyes). You specifically complained that nobody was creditting you for you ever-so-great intelligence (insert more eye rolling).
I seriously doubt that I'll enjoy rorta, most of this site is filled with the most asinine and ridiculous trash I've ever seen (which is what I've been told by several of the RX alumni) - I'm sure you'll love it though.
And your right I had not contributed shit there cuz it sucks. My statement was I my turd I Shit out has more intelligence than you do and from what i see you fit right in there. I had not contributed for 16 mo's and I contributed very very little before then. But I will say your inept attempt at insulting me is ammusing to say the least. Sorry I couldnt impress you to your requirements. Go play over at bombshock with the other 10 yr olds you fit in.
Go play with your alps printer so you can spend the rest of the year trying to figgure out how to make a id so you can buy beer. JOKE
shetlan
25th May 2009, 02:52 AM
And your right I had not contributed shit there cuz it sucks.
And yet you whined that nobody recognized your contributions to the site. hmmm:ponder:
My statement was I my turd I Shit out has more intelligence than you do and from what i see you fit right in there.
The guy who wrote that ^ has no business calling anyone else stupid.
Funny, you're claiming I'm stupid, and yet your tutorial on counterfeit money is almost completely stolen from mine (from bombshock I might add).
Sorry I couldnt impress you to your requirements. Go play over at bombshock with the other 10 yr olds you fit in.
Your posts aren't "not impressive enough", they're just laughable.
Go play with your alps printer so you can spend the rest of the year trying to figgure out how to make a id so you can buy beer. JOKE
I'm in my mid 20s icy; but thanks, you're re-proving my point over and over again.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, wheren't you kicked off revelation for this same asinine crap?
lcnostra
25th May 2009, 07:19 AM
Anyone else wondering why this guy got run off bombshock?
Shetlan,
While I may not ethically agree with this particular thread that iceman has started, the fact of the matter is that he is a respected member around here who often contributes valuable information. I don't post on bombshock, but I lurk enough to have noticed your holier than though attitude toward other members and heightened sense of intellectual superiority.
Rorta is a community dedicated to knowledge and learning. People here welcome new members, but if you're going to start out new and transplant your drama from another board, nobody wants to hear it. As far as I'm concerned, iceman has been an outstanding member who has contributed loads of valuable information to this board. Leave your bombshock bullshit at the door and grow up. Nobody gives a shit what someone with your post count has to say.
"I seriously doubt that I'll enjoy rorta, most of this site is filled with the most asinine and ridiculous trash I've ever seen (which is what I've been told by several of the RX alumni) - I'm sure you'll love it though."
Then get the fuck out and go back to bombshock. Seriously, we'll be fine. If being the smartest board member out of a group of retarded 12 year-olds gives you that sense of entitlement, enjoy it and preach your fuckshow of intellectual presumption to another crowd.
:bryce:
iceman69
25th May 2009, 07:30 AM
[Hey stupid look back over 16 mos ago you will see my counterfeit thread long before yours loser. look at your post date! except I left out the chemicel you idiot on purpose! but i shared that with several members here almost a yr and a half ago which can be verified. and to show who the inept idiot is acetone wont remove ink idiot. In the 70's the composition of the ink changed to remove lead. the technique is well known I have posted except no one shares what the chemical is I did. So idiot it;'s a old method and you didnt create it neither did I. I doubt you could counterfeit a walmart recipt. acetone what a homo
get some knowledge of what your talking about before posting what you copy. look at the date of my threads? they preceed your a long time. I guess imatation is the best form of flatery. you dont see me crying you stole my technique. I saw it done in colombia 5 years ago. your such a fuck boy:bryce:
QUOTE=shetlan;38837]And yet you whined that nobody recognized your contributions to the site. hmmm:ponder:
The guy who wrote that ^ has no business calling anyone else stupid.
Funny, you're claiming I'm stupid, and yet your tutorial on counterfeit money is almost completely stolen from mine (from bombshock I might add).
Your posts aren't "not impressive enough", they're just laughable.
I'm in my mid 20s icy; but thanks, you're re-proving my point over and over again.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, wheren't you kicked off revelation for this same asinine crap?[/QUOTE]
shetlan
25th May 2009, 07:35 AM
Shetlan,
While I may not ethically agree with this particular thread that iceman has started, the fact of the matter is that he is a respected member around here who often contributes valuable information. I don't post on bombshock, but I lurk enough to have noticed your holier than though attitude toward other members and heightened sense of intellectual superiority.
The ethical ramifications aren't relevant, the idea itself is ridiculous, impractical, and just plain stupid.
Being a "respected member" on rorta is akin to being the smartest six year old in your class.
I'll again point out that any "valuable information" he offers is no doubt a copy-paste from somone else's ideas.
Rorta is a community dedicated to knowledge and learning. People here welcome new members, but if you're going to start out new and transplant your drama from another board, nobody wants to hear it. As far as I'm concerned, iceman has been an outstanding member who has contributed loads of valuable information to this board. Leave your bombshock bullshit at the door and grow up. Nobody gives a shit what someone with your post count has to say.
Ah, the fallacy of post count deciding who's right and wrong - that's the kiddy logic I'm coming to expect from this place.
"I seriously doubt that I'll enjoy rorta, most of this site is filled with the most asinine and ridiculous trash I've ever seen (which is what I've been told by several of the RX alumni) - I'm sure you'll love it though."
Then get the fuck out and go back to bombshock. Seriously, we'll be fine. If being the smartest board member out of a group of retarded 12 year-olds gives you that sense of entitlement, enjoy it and preach your fuckshow of intellectual presumption to another crowd.
If I wanted to spend time with "retarted 12 year olds" I'd stay here with you and the iceboy.
iceman69
25th May 2009, 07:37 AM
Below shelton can see my counterfeit discussion detailling this procedure far predates his bombshock tutorial which is faulty anyways. I think you being a pompus ass trying to claim you pioneered something that has been around since the 1980's only shows who the cut and paste loser is. I never claimed to come up with it but I knew it long before you and it's old news to me. Im not here to impress you or try to shelton. Go back to bombsuck and you can pretend it was your idea. Poor baby shelton needs a pacifier...... Oh one thing you will learn in this game if you knew anything which is minimal from what I have seen lol... Is that most cons and scams are not original or merely a spin off of a old one. But without people sharing this information those who want to learn would have many more stumbling blocks to overcome. It is a sad endevour we must deal with overinflated ego small dick syndrome suffers as yourself that are begging for recognition. I think if you were not such a blatant whine bag you might be recepted with more respect. But since we are going with the you stole my idea ploy. See rortas dated thread in the next post and It is clear you shelton are the thief of Ice's tutorial. Just to be a prick I think I will post some tutorials that deal heavily on counterfeiting every type of bank instrument out there. That should put you in your place. BACK IN THE PLAYPEN. So Shelton quit being a baby you did not think of it. And I hate your fucking guts and wish you would go back to bombshock
iceman69
25th May 2009, 07:44 AM
AND HERES THE PROOF ASS ! READ THIS COUNTERFEIT THREAD BITCH. IT'S A YEAR OLDER THAN YOUR HIJACKED RAG! SODIUM HYDROXIDE OR LYE FOR YOU DUMMY. NOT YOUR GAY ASS PEROXIDE LAME STRIPPER USE SOMETHING MORE CAUSTIC DICK LICK..HERES RORTAS DATED THREAD!
WHO STOLE WHO'S???????: PROOF HERE YOU THIEVING BITCH. THATS YOUR PROBLEM YOUR TRYING TO CLAIM IT WAS ALL YOUR IDEA. YOUR MORE OF A JOKE THAN THE FAT HAIRY MONKEY THAT SHAGGED YOUR MOTHER TO CREATE YOU. GET A LIFE. CLICK THE LINK AND SEE ME DISCUSSING THIS LONG BEFORE YOUR POST LONG LONG BEFORE. RIGHT HERE DICK
http://forum.rorta.net/showthread.php?t=1622&highlight=counterfeit
THIS IS CONCLUSIVE PROOF YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR. Also Theres 100 people in the country doing it. What you think your the first to think of it?
your a little late there dummy. you rode the short bus didnt you
so go fuck off back to bomb suck and play with your potassium chlorate and blow yourself up.
iceman69
25th May 2009, 08:52 AM
heres sheltons tutorial hes banned there as well on bombshock
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How to make counterfeit money and blank checks(complete freebase method)
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I've read counterfeit tutorials and check blanking tutorials on here but none of them had the method I'm going to share with you. I've been doing this for about 2 years now and it has never failed me!
Here is my complete freebase method of making counterfeit method and blanking checks. I hope you all enjoy it and find it useful!
WARNINGS:
1)DO NOT START WITH THE BACK OF THE $1 BILL. THE BACK IS HARDER TO CLEAN AND IT WILL RESULT IN A RIP/TARE IF YOU START WITH IT.
2)BE CAREFUL SPENDING $50 OR $100 IF YOUR ARE YOUNG. 99% OF THE TIME THEY WILL CHECK THE MONEY
3)DON'T SPEND THE MONEY ANYWHERE YOU KNOW THEY CHECK IT. THEY PAPER IS REAL SO THEY CAN USE A PEN TO CHECK IT BUT IF THEY USE A SCANNER YOUR SCREWED. MONEY IS MADE FROM METAL AND FABRIC AND THE SCANNERS CHECK FOR THE METAL. THE CLEANING PROCESS REMOVES THE METAL!
4)IF YOU EVER GET CAUGHT ITS BEST THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ALOT OF COUNTERFEIT MONEY ON YOU. THE MORE YOU HAVE, THE MORE JAIL TIME YOU WILL RECEIVE.
5)DON'T GO MAKING $1000'S OF COUNTERFEIT MONEY. COUNTERFEIT MONEY CIRCULATION IS SOMETHING I DON'T BELIEVE IN. PEOPLE GET IN TROUBLE EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. THAT'S JUST RUDE.
6)DON'T SMELL THE "REACTION BATH" THE CHEMICALS IN THAT ARE EXTREMELY BAD FOR YOU. YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE SNIFFING AMMONIA IF YOU PLAN ON SMELLING THE "REACTION BATH."
7)SAFETY IS YOUR TOP CONCERN. BE CAREFUL AND TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE YOUR PREPARED.
8)ITS NOT A RACE. TAKE YOUR TIME!
9)BE SMART.
10)NEW $1 BILLS WILL NOT WORK. THEY (THE FBEP -THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRINTING AND ENGRAVING) NOW GIVE MONEY "CHEMICAL TESTS." IF THE MONEY YOU HAVE WILL NOT CLEAN, THEY MONEY IS NEW AND YOUR OUT OF MUCH. I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT I MEAN IN THE VIDEO. THERE IS A WAY TO CLEAN THE MONEY BUT IT TAKES ABOUT 2 HOURS ALONE TO PREPARE IT FOR CLEANING. IF ANYONE WANTS ME TO INCLUDE THIS INTO THE TUTORIAL I WILL BUT I WILL NOT BE INCLUDING IT IN THE VIDEO.
Counterfeit Tutorial:
Materials Required:
1)Kleenex Tissues or Baby Wipes
2)Bowl or Dish pan
3)Pure CH3COCH3
4)NaClO
5)*Optional* H202
6)Hard, Flat Surface
7)$1 bills (the more you have the more money you make)
8)Large Envelopes
9)Heavy Book (dictionary/encyclopedia)
10)Double Sided Tape
11)Printer Paper
12)Scissors
13)1968 or earlier Currency images (front and back) (use whatever amount you want. I suggest a $5, $10, or $20)
14)Iron & Ironing board
15)Scanner/Printer
16)Patience
17)Measuring Cup (ml)
18)Gloves
19)Face Protection
20)Pencil
Process 1: Preparing your money
1)Take all your $1 bills and iron them flat. The $1 bill MUST be in perfect condition!!! Tares or any imperfections can ruin the final product!
2)Measure out 500ml of pure CH3COCH3 and add in to the bowl
3)Measure out 500ml of NaClO and add it to the bowl
4)*Optional* Measure out 500ml of H2O2 and add it the the bowl
*Notice a reaction taking place? It should get hot and start bubbling. This is your "Reaction Bath." This chemical solution will dissolve the ink of the money. Adding the H2O2 is optional because it really isn't really necessary. But using it will produce a better, more realistic looking product. *
5)Put on your Gloves (these gloves should be chemical and electric resistant. Rubber gloves are best for this)
6)Put on your mouth/nose protecting mask. breathing in the chemical smell from the reaction bath can be toxic. This isn't necessary but safety should ALWAYS be your top priority when working with chemicals.
Process 2: "Cleaning" your money
1)Add the $1 bill in the reaction bath and let is sit for 10 minutes. This will allow the reaction to finish and make the ink removal ALOT easier (if you used the H2O2. If you didn't, it will be a little harder to do)
2)Place the $1 bill on a hard surface
3)Take your Kleenex or your DRIED baby wipe and begin softly but firmly rubbing the ink off the front of the $1 bill in a circular motion.
*THIS IS NOT A RACE!!!!! BE SLOW AND TAKE YOUR TIME. THE MORE TIME YOU TAKE TO CARE ABOUT THE PRODUCT, THE BETTER ITS FINAL RESULT WILL BE!*
*You will notice that the front if the bill will become black and smudgy (if you didn't use the H2O2) But if you did, the ink should come off easily.
4)You WON'T get this all off with just 1 soak! It will take 3-4 Soaks to completely clean the $1 bill. Every additional soak is just 1-2 minutes
5)Repeat this process until the $1 becomes complete white/gray/pearl
6)Take the $1 bill and run it under HOT water (don't flood the thing. A nice slow stream works) be sure to cover all the $1 bill. You don't want any left over chemicals still on the $1 bill
7)Now do the same but in COLD water
*If the money rips/tares EVEN A LITTLE, THE PROCESS HAS FAILED AND ITS UNUSABLE. YOU WILL HAVE TO START OVER*
8)Place the $1 bill in a large envelope and place a heavy book on top of it
9)Let this sit for an hour and a half (90 minutes) so it can solidify and feel normal again.
*look at the $1 bill. The front should be white but the back should still be normal. This is what you want! The money should have the same texture as if nothing was done to it. There will however be little collections of balled up ink/little bits of paper. This is normal!*
10)Carefully re-iron the $1 bill to remove the little blots of leftover ink/balled up paper. They may not completely go away but they will be suppressed so its OK!
17)Now just repeat steps 1-10 expect with the back of the bill and you will have 1 completely blank $1 bill!!!!! Do this for however much money you want to print.
Process 3: Printing
1)Find the 1968 currency (front and back) for the amount of money you want. The 1968 currency doesn't have any security features and are still in circulation to this very day. They are rare to get but they exist.
2)Take your index card and scissors and cut out an EXACT replica of the $1 bill. This will be your "Test Print" to make sure you are doing everything OK.
3)Tape the back of the index card down with the double sided tape (tape th edges to you don't effect the entire replica bill or remove any paper)
4)Trace and outline of the location with a pencil (lightly)
5)Scan your "test print"
6)Use a photo editing tool such as PhotoShop and create a new image
7)Make it as big as the "test print' and add the front of the currency to where the index card is.
8)Now print it in a high quality!
9)Wait an hour and let the ink dry
10)Repeat steps 2-9 except printing the back
11)After the ink COMPLETELY DRIES, iron it one last time!
Congratulations! You just made counterfeit money!!!!!
Here are some suggestions:
1)Don't make anything higher then a $50 if your underage. People will check it out
2)Don't spend the fake money at a place where you know they check the money. It will pass the "paper test" because its still the same real paper just reprinted.
3)If you have a buddy that works at a store, I suggest making a $100, then getting change for it (giving him his share of the cut) Then you will have a REAL $100 and your friend can spread the fake money on the next person who pays in a high amount (receiving $100 in change) or his/her boss can get the fake money. Counterfeit circulation . my sister works at an amusement park and all day ride passes are $50 each. I just blow the fake $100 to her and get change instead of tickets. Then i give her $20 from the cut. Our way of stealing money.
4)Just be smart about what you make. Don't rush.
:::::INFORMATION:::::
CH3COCH3 = Acetone
NaClO = Bleach
H2O2 = Hydrogen Peroxide (3% works best)
I'm some what of a chemistry nerd and i love learning things by their "molecular formula." It sounds smarter and I have to know it if my dream of becoming a chemist is to one day become true
:::::FUTURE UPDATES FOR THIS THREAD:::::
1)Pictures of me actually doing the processes
2)A downloadable video of me doing the processes (since putting it on YouTube and Veoh would violate terms, and would get removed I will put it on sendspace, megaupload, and whatever else)
3)Clearer Instructions
4)Links to all currency pictures
iceman69
25th May 2009, 08:53 AM
1968 CURRENCY???? FUCKING IDIOT ITS PRE 96 CURRENCY...
ALSO NEW NOTES DO WASH WITH MY FORMULA. DUMB HOMO
furthermore notes before the 70's used lead based ink impossible to remove!
Its the removal of the lead in the inks composition that facillitates the wash process
And why do you pass your notes to your sister at the amusment park as you stated in your thread? If you made good product it would pass anywhere except the bank that uses BLACK LIGHTS/IR
MORE PROOF YOUR JUST A SECOND RATE WANNABE
PRE 1968 HA HA THAT IS TOO FUNNY NOT TO MENTION THOSE CRYING YOUR FORMULA DONT DO SHIT. SEE BELOW
AND YOUR BANNED
HERES SOME OF HIS HAPPY CUSTOMERS FOR HIS PEROXIDE ACETONE WEAK ASS SOLUTION
As something interesting I just read, is that the chemical reaction in the "chemical bath" makes acetone peroxide, which is 10 times more unstable than nitroglycerine.
Another thing is I cant seem to get the chemical bath to remove the ink. I used everything in the quantities you described, I even had 27% H2O2 , and no bubbling occurred. After 10 minutes the ink wasnt coming off at all , i left it in for a total of 30 minutes and nothing happened.
odin_dax
25th May 2009, 12:16 PM
All of you need to shut up and grow up.
shetlan, welcome to the board. Now fuck off.
thief
25th May 2009, 12:27 PM
Man, if I was a MOD I would kick both your asses for going WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off topic for to long. But then again... who im I.
A lot of people here (South America) get kidnapped for their organs, in fact a few Doctors in the past have been arested for taking a kidney form patient and leaving them with just one and not telling them when the patient was under the kinfe for something completely unrelated to thier kidneys.
savage_beauty
25th May 2009, 01:41 PM
I think it would be a lot easier to actually do the extraction in a third world country. If you do it in England or America there is a higher chance of someone noticing if someone else goes missing. The only thing with that is that the victims are most likely mal-nourished so you would have to spend a month or so giving each donor time to get ready for transplant. Enough sleep, decent meals and gentle exercise. Of course this would be beneficial because you would gain the trust of the donor thus making it easier to extract their organs. Any costs of food, clothing, bathing ect would easily be recovered from selling the organs themselves. However I don't just think that you should limit the market to just having children donors. Rich buyers will not be able to buy children's hearts or several other organ as they wont fit the adults body.
However that method would require a heart of steal as during the time the orphan is being prepared you would get to know them, bond with them and even start to like them.
I personally wouldn't be able to do it.
Th0r
25th May 2009, 02:30 PM
I personally wouldn't be able to do it.
Most won't be able to do it for ethical reasons and the fact that they aren't Psychopathic. Resources wouldn't even factor in the equation because most wouldn't even consider doing it.
My take is smuggle a brat from a Third World country where the parents are going to either thank you, or just won't give a damn if you take their child, into the UK or USA [<Insert MEDC here.>] then enroll a Doc to remove the components.
iceman69
25th May 2009, 03:16 PM
was reading this this morning china
Human Rights:Stop Disabling & Murdering Lives; Stop Selling & Harvesting Organs - TissuTarget:Petition Goes To The United Nations To Stop CCP's Human Rights ViolationsSponsored by: MHONA InternationalThe Communist Chinese Party [CCP] have been harvesting organs and tissues of lives, youth to elderly
lcnostra
25th May 2009, 04:48 PM
Being a "respected member" on rorta is akin to being the smartest six year old in your class.
How thoughtful of you to rework what I said about bombshock and use it to insult a site that you just joined. What an entrance!
Seriously, and saying this as diplomatically as possible - put up or shut up. People here don't take kindly to meaningless bullshit, especially when it comes from that shithole of a site called bombshock.
Otherwise, if you can curtail the dramatic retardation and submit/discuss relevant ideas, welcome.
Th0r
25th May 2009, 06:34 PM
Being a "respected member" on rorta is akin to being the smartest six year old in your class.
Says Mr. 400+ Posts on Bombshit...
If you don't like Rorta then fuck off. Giving Iceman69 grief in your first real post was a bad idea. If you do some searching you'll find that a lot of members here hold him with a high regard and have good reason to do so. He's contributed more than a mere 5 posts which lets face it, are mainly inane criticisms of Rorta with it's 'asininity' and 'stupidity' of it's members.
Reiterating what Icnostra just said, otherwise Welcome.
XxXxX
I've got time to kill and as a way of getting the thread back on topic I'm going to break it down.
Pulling this off in the UK is virtually impossible. You're going to need to firstly find a doctor to remove the organs. A friend of mine who is a medical student and really knows how the body works believes only a trained surgeon should remove body parts. For obvious reasons.
You've got paperwork and doctors too plus connections and the people you're selling the organs too.
In the US, it might be different. Frankly I don't believe it's that different.
lcnostra
25th May 2009, 07:26 PM
Nope, you would be quite correct in saying that it's not any different in the US. In fact, the precision and training required to remove organs would be important no matter where you would do this, hypothetically.
Your friend's right, too. Especially with kidneys, only a trained surgical nephrologist should be doing a procedure like that. Oddly enough, the kidneys are on average only 0.5% of the body weight, but they receive 20% of the body's blood circulation. You'd need to know exactly how to cut the renal arteries/veins, clamp and reroute circulation (if you want to keep them alive), and preserve the organs.
On a side note, taking Shitlan's comment about the "fallacy regarding post count," I suppose I can agree with the idea of quality over quantity. The problem, shitlan, is that in your minimal posts you have added absolutely nothing but inane and retarded drama to the site. I think that most members can agree that you've been a real immature douche bag, so I'll say no more and hope that this topic doesn't go to the FL. If flaming people online is the ego-fuel you require, please go back to bombshock. Nobody will tolerate it here.....
NINEBREAKER
25th May 2009, 08:31 PM
why is it the more posts i read of your the more i get the feeling your an imature kid with anger issues and gose to places like these so you can find some sort of trhing to talk about thats dangerous and more than likley will only see in movies and you talk about them to feel like some sort of baddass because you have very few freinds if any
you probobly did get run off bombshock.
Th0r
25th May 2009, 10:26 PM
Nope, you would be quite correct in saying that it's not any different in the US. In fact, the precision and training required to remove organs would be important no matter where you would do this, hypothetically.
I was thinking about differences between the US and the UK being more focused on the fact that you apparently have a privatised health system, and we have a Government based system and a bureaucratic one at that.
lcnostra
26th May 2009, 12:14 AM
I'd say it's unfeasible in both places. The difference between the US and the UK is that you guys get healthcare and everyone here gets fucked ^_^
savage_beauty
26th May 2009, 12:45 AM
Where would you find a doctor to remove the organs any way? I think that it would be against the hypocratic oath.
Twist
26th May 2009, 01:00 AM
Where would you find a doctor to remove the organs any way? I think that it would be against the hypocratic oath.
Why would that make any difference? As has been discussed it has been done so there you go. In terms of ethics, I would never be able to do this to an orphan, or anybody who doesn't deserve it. On the other hand I would have no problem doing it to somebody who deserves it more or less. I think if I were to consider doing this at some point I would use gang members like the hells angels or the type of people who don't give a shit about anybody else. I.E. Meth dealers whos primary customer base is young kids. I would have no reservations about killing these people so why not make it profitable? :naughty: Two organs 80k $ is so worth it. The only problem of course is that people like this would most likely not have the most healthy organs but even for 5k $ I wouldn't care.
Th0r
26th May 2009, 01:03 AM
Where would you find a doctor to remove the organs any way? I think that it would be against the hypocratic oath.
Money defeats all.
Day_N_Night
26th May 2009, 10:31 AM
Money defeats all.
They don't say money is the root of all evil for nothing.
In the UK doing this would probably be unfeasible but the US has the added advantage that they have millions of illegal immigrants, so that would save you a trip to a third world country or adopting a third worlder (which i have stated would be impractical). In addition to that you will have the customer base readily available, so you can harvest the organs and perform the transplant all in the buzome of one country without having the long distance from potential clients.
odin_dax
26th May 2009, 04:19 PM
Money may be the root of all evil, Day, but woman is its flower.
Women = Time x Money
Time is money. Therefore, Women = Money x Money
Money is the root of all Evil.
Women = ./Evil x ./Evil (./ = root symbol)
Women = Evil
savage_beauty
26th May 2009, 08:29 PM
Money may be the root of all evil, Day, but woman is its flower.
Women = Time x Money
Time is money. Therefore, Women = Money x Money
Money is the root of all Evil.
Women = ./Evil x ./Evil (./ = root symbol)
Women = Evil
HEY! Thats not true. We aren't all evil. Thats like saying all men think with their penis. Or that no man can multi task. True for some but not all. :P
iceman69
26th May 2009, 08:46 PM
I think with my penis ((((((stop stereotyping)))))
:haha:
Twist
26th May 2009, 11:07 PM
Money may be the root of all evil, Day, but woman is its flower.
Women = Time x Money
Time is money. Therefore, Women = Money x Money
Money is the root of all Evil.
Women = ./Evil x ./Evil (./ = root symbol)
Women = Evil
Or
Money=evil
women=evil x evil
women=evil^2
women=evil^2÷evil
evil
evil=woman÷evil
And because evil is a term, you can't divide however when a word is used to describe division it has a value of two. For example hatred divided the couple. Couple means 2, 2 divided by hatred is 1 each.
Therefore evil=half of a woman
Result: Female midgets are evil! :yikes:
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