View Full Version : Is love worth everything else?
Twist
24th June 2009, 11:45 PM
Everyone on this forum has experienced love. Is love worth everything else in life? Are you setting yourself up for failure? There are people in my life I love and would do anything for, there is also the thought of losing them that i think may weaken me. The first thing I should have asked is what is love? The thing I want to know more than anything else however, is if I should love. It opens up a dangerous path as if harm ever crossed those I love then I would be hurt more than anything physical and there would be no cure. Please help me on this one, I really don't know what I should do and I can not just stop loving as that would hurt me as well but will it hurt me less than the possibility of losing those in a unforeseen way as it has to so many others in a world where the worst that can happen manifests itself everyday to somebody somewhere? :raincloud
Th0r
25th June 2009, 12:11 AM
Everyone on this forum has experienced love.
Not strictly true but whatever.
Everyone I've ever loved and cared about, including parents, siblings, relatives and friends have fucked me over somehow. Therefore I've very little sympathy for them and very little trust in the people you're meant to trust the most in life.
Everyone you love will die at some point in time and thus you'll lose them. It's a fact of life, and a cruel one, at that. Whether it's pointless to love I don't know. Some would counter that view and very few would agree with it. Love is about cherishing and not preparing for the worst.
Grief and pain at the loss of someone you love can be incredibly painful, but you have to move on.
I don't know if that is of any help to you, but whatever.
thief
25th June 2009, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE=Th0r;41512]Everyone you love will die at some point in time and thus you'll lose them. QUOTE]
You only loose what you cling to.
I sold EVERYTHING I had and left my job back home to be with my (now) wife here in Brasil. Not knowing only very very little about the language before I came and nothing about the place only favelas and carnavals, I was worried. but in the end its the best move I ever made. Why did I do it... out of love. I would do anything for the person I love. Its worth everything else in life, as you said.
Day_N_Night
25th June 2009, 01:01 AM
Not strictly true but whatever.
Everyone I've ever loved and cared about, including parents, siblings, relatives and friends have fucked me over somehow. Therefore I've very little sympathy for them and very little trust in the people you're meant to trust the most in life.
My sentiments exactly, You cant trust anyone in life to respect you or not fuck you over except yourself.
Screw before you get Screwed.
If you're the one causing people the hurt then you can't get hurt. Simple as that.
Is love worth everything else in life? Are you setting yourself up for failure?
If you can find a person who would reciprocate your feelings back towards you perhaps but i dont think its worth taking a chance. There's plenty of fish in the sea, why limit yourself only to one?
Thief- Is your wife Brazilian?
thief
25th June 2009, 01:21 AM
Thief- Is your wife Brazilian?
Yes
odin_dax
25th June 2009, 02:01 AM
Love is what you make it. Each relationship is different somehow, but overall the same. Yeah, sometimes you get burned, but it's worth the risk.
If you're up to no good, then it's your own fault who you trust with what.
The Schizoid Hatter
25th June 2009, 04:51 AM
What most people believe is love is mere infatuation. Therefore, it isn't worth it to give up a damn thing.
The way I see it is that life is far too short to spend the majority of it chasing something so overrated.
Let it come to you; don't pursue it.
Twist
25th June 2009, 04:56 AM
What most people believe is love is mere infatuation. Therefore, it isn't worth it to give up a damn thing.
The way I see it is that life is far too short to spend the majority of it chasing something so overrated.
Let it come to you; don't pursue it.
I speak as it is already there but is it worth keeping.
The Schizoid Hatter
25th June 2009, 05:16 AM
That's a question one must ask them self. If it makes one happy, continue. If not, screw it. Why expend the extra effort?
Nox (ADVANCED)
28th June 2009, 08:32 AM
What most people believe is love is mere infatuation. Therefore, it isn't worth it to give up a damn thing.
The way I see it is that life is far too short to spend the majority of it chasing something so overrated.
Let it come to you; don't pursue it.
QFT, Being in love blocks ones view of life. Becoming "totally" in love is like getting a loan for a nice car before u even have a house to park it at.
Having said that, teen lust is a good experience all should learn from. Makes one oblivious to all other things.
savage_beauty
28th June 2009, 09:46 PM
Everyone I've ever loved and cared about, including parents, siblings, relatives and friends have fucked me over somehow. Therefore I've very little sympathy for them and very little trust in the people you're meant to trust the most in life.
Everyone you love will die at some point in time and thus you'll lose them. It's a fact of life, and a cruel one, at that. Whether it's pointless to love I don't know. Some would counter that view and very few would agree with it. Love is about cherishing and not preparing for the worst.
Damn thats incredibally pessimistic.
Love is an amazing thing that so many writers and poets have all tried to describe and explain but never can. Dont hide from love. your not a robot. I think love is worth it because it may screw you over eventually but for those months or years or even a day when it didnt will be amazing. We are humans we are ment to love. But most of the time it will find you by accident. Loss is a part of love. The bad part. It shows that you cared about another human being and let them into your lives. Your sounding like if you get into a relationship someones going to kidnap your boyfriend or girlfriend as use them as blackmail. Lol dont be a pessimist it wont get you anywhere and you'll end up seeing to many bad sides of everything.
.VX
30th June 2009, 07:20 AM
It's not as if you have any say in whether you love someone or not.
DangerousLuck
14th July 2009, 10:58 PM
It's not as if you have any say in whether you love someone or not.
Feeling "love" and attachment for someone is often involuntary, but actively loving someone always is.
That said, love begins as a chemical attraction (lust) and eventual addiction. The time varies for everyone, but the reaction/attraction lasts for around a year and a half at the chemical level and staying together after that is a result of a lingering addiction, or dependency.
That may seem a very pessimistic or unromantic view, but I believe it to be more romantic than our current mainstream view. You see, love in this scenario, then, is something you choose to do. After that initial attraction has died down, the excitement levels off, many people still decide to be with the same person. Either they have grown dependent, are afraid of change, or have simply found a partner with whom they desire to share everything with and seek solace, comfort, etc from them and enjoy giving the same. This choice, this more or less conscious decision to stay with someone and actively keep the relationship going even if the spark has lessened just because of the person that they truly are, is love, to me.
The Schizoid Hatter
15th July 2009, 01:54 AM
^
That was marvelous.
.VX
16th July 2009, 05:33 AM
Feeling "love" and attachment for someone is often involuntary
That's all I meant.
crazy white guy
16th July 2009, 07:37 AM
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I can say I've felt it twice in the non-family sense. The first was based on naive notions of infatuation. I didn't yet understand life and intimacy. The second occurrence was a drug. Euphoric, empowering, endlessly comforting. As the relationship progressed, actions turn the cure into the disease. I sunk into depression of sorts. And now and still confused as to my life's path. I cant imagine myself being happy with anyone, I cant imagine someone else being faithful. When TSHTF, I threw sex at the problem. I dated a cheerleader. Got in her pants. Didnt feel anything. got depressed again. Built shit. had random sex a few times. Then sex'd a good friend of mine. That was when I was still talking to the Ex that messed things up so much for me. I felt, guilt, remorse, sadness. It was as if I had committed to being alone without it registering. I cant see myself being happy in the long term without a partner. Now, nothing. I pass up chances to ask girls out when not put in a situation where I feel obliged. I do go on dates every second week or so. But never with girls I really connect with. Its pretty much a self fulfilling prediction of a shit hole existence. Now with 4 days of work, its hard to go out and look for a girl I can connect with. I would like to find a "good" if not perfect. I'd settle at the moment. I crave that connection to a physical confidence boost.
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Love is like crack, it can go get fucked in the ass by godzilla.
thief
16th July 2009, 11:22 PM
Love is like choosing a cup to drink from. You just open the press and take one... what one you dont know, you just take it. And thats what you have. You dont choose who to fall in love with... its just a case of right place, right time.
savage_beauty
16th July 2009, 11:27 PM
Love is like choosing a cup to drink from. You just open the press and take one... what one you dont know, you just take it. And thats what you have. You dont choose who to fall in love with... its just a case of right place, right time.
That is perfect. Just perfect.
Tricho
9th September 2009, 02:30 AM
Love in my opinion is honestly a joke. I mean yeah sure you can care about people the like but in my personal opinion love is a fallacy and I have not in my opinion ever loved any one of my girlfriends for no matter how long I dated them. Whether is was a week or a year or whatever. I just saw them like I would see a friend except I got to have sex with them whenever I wanted to.
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