Professional Psychiatric Help

[need2knowbases]

Do me a favor, post your experiences? Nothing specific unless you want to, but....what was your situation, and did seeking help of a professional help you?

I really do feel I need it. At least to talk to someone. I have been told on more than one occasion that I need it, and have admitted it several times....I just don't see how talking to someone whom I don't know would be better than IM'ing a friend of mine especially since I would have to pay full price for the former.

[Th0r]

I felt it would be better placed here and another Mod expressed his opinion that it be moved from the FL.

[torcher]

but because the psychiatrist doesnt know you, they will have an un-biased opinion on your feelings etc, and be able to give you a diagnoses of your problems

[Twist]

Coleman,

Although this will help you, it is costly and I recommend you take some solo steps before this. You obviously are lost in life right now and feeling depressed. I think honestly the best thing you can do right now is take your money and join a gym. The harder you work lifting to deal with your problems the better you will feel and the better you will look. A double dose of higher self esteem and physical content. Use this to base the rest of your life around just how people have the backbone of their life be their job, school, family etc. until you find something you care about even more. Good luck.

-Twist

[thief]

Just snap out of it. Get your lazy ass off the sofa and go out or join something. Humans need social interaction... you dont get that for watching youjizz.com or thinking that people on here are your friends. go out interact with real people and end this downer your on.

[crazy white guy]

I'd say join a gym and try upgrading your skills somehow. With school comes social interaction and with going to the gym gains appearance and the ability to bond with like minded people. Im guessing you dont have a job that you enjoy. Having the goal of getting a better job, even if its only higher pay would be a goal and goals are very important. I think im chronically depressed or something. I become an emo kid as soon as I have no goals. Then back to ormal when I have something to work towards.

Or do charity work, build something labor consuming just something to take up your time that you enjoy. Im building a pet cage for my girlfriend right now. I spent about 6 hours on it today and Im only about 1/3 of the way through. its all put together from scrap. I haven't needed to pay for anything so far.

[Vallen]

Don't do it you'll regret it.
You think you have problems now, They'll show you allot more that you have and make you feel like your all fucked up.

[lcnostra]

Coleman,

I think it would be worth a shot to consult with your primary care physician and ask them to recommend a good psychiatrist. A lot of people have this mentality that someone who doesn't "know you" won't be able to help, but it's their outside psychological evaluation that enables them to effectively do their job. It may turn out that you require medication, and it's best left to a medical professional to determine that -- not yourself, and certainly not people on the internet.

While I agree with some of the other posts about exercising, this is more of a secondary approach to a larger problem. Hitting the gym is never bad advice for physical and mental wellness, but your main focus should be getting help. It sounds like some life changes could balance you out, and maybe some anti-depressants will be the crutch to get into that rhythm.

[catnips]

I really do feel I need it. At least to talk to someone. I have been told on more than one occasion that I need it, and have admitted it several times....I just don't see how talking to someone whom I don't know would be better than IM'ing a friend of mine especially since I would have to pay full price for the former.

It can be difficult to use one's friends as one's mental health counselors due to the nature of friendship. Each person in a friendship relationship adheres to unspoken agreements about how interactions are to be governed and what is to be expected of the other.

The value in having an disinterested person listen to you is that you do not have the obligation or duty to treat this person as a friend. This potentially allows for more honest disclosure of what you're experiencing at this time.

This disinterested party need not be a psychiatrist. You could possibly benefit from seeing a psychiatrist, but be prepared to undergo a course of treatment that will most likely include taking psychotropic medications. Another possibility would be to consult with a psychologist, a mental health professional who is less likely to want to medicate your distress away. However, be prepared to undergo psychological testing and the pigeon-holing of who you are within the field of psychology. Also, you could seek counseling from someone who is neither a psychiatrist or psychologist, but be prepared to be persuaded that you would benefit in consulting with either a psychologist or psychiatrist.

There are many ways to handle depression or other mental health issues rather than going to a psychiatrist directly but would require self-education on your part. Offers of suggestions to exercise your problems away are examples of other ways to deal with or cope with what you're experiencing. Meditation is another example of something to try in order to improve your sense of well-being. Tai-chi or Qigong might be tools you could use to find greater peace in your daily experience. Changing diet can affect your mental as well as physical well being. These are just examples of possible avenues of change you could explore.

What some do not realize is that a person can be so disabled by their mental processings that taking action of any kind can feel overwhelming and result in paralysis. Ignore those who tell you to just snap out of it for they know not of which they speak. If you feel like you need to talk to someone, then you most probably need just that. The question is: who to talk to?

I'll refrain from giving my own personal experience in working with medical industry professionals, other than to say that after 17 or so years of working with medical doctors and trying to work within that paradigm, I am now pharmaceutical-free (not taking any medications) and I'm doing well enough.

No one knows you better than yourself; thus, you are your own greatest resource. Trust your feelings and your intuitions should logic and reason be insufficient in helping you decide what to do next.

[thief]

No one knows you better than yourself; thus, you are your own greatest resource. Trust your feelings .

So there you have it. Dont listen to us. Listen to yourself. OR.. just snap out of it you big girl. :poke:

[The Real]

Thief you are so... what's the word? CARING! Love it.

[Th0r]

I've experienced psychiatric help myself. And I don't think it's worth it. None of my problems were 'cured' by it and was a waste of time. Completely.

At the time I was having similar problems to the ones you talk about, Coleman.

The only way of solving them is by doing something yourself.

[lcnostra]

Anti-depressant drugs can help. It's worth a visit to a psych. In the US, your PCP can also prescribe them if they see fit; many are pretty lax about it. I'd at least give it a try, as you can always discontinue your visits or hop around until you find a psych you can connect with.

[thief]

Some Anti-depressants can make the person worse. I say, lay off the drink join a club of some sort. Either that or end it all.

[lcnostra]

And sometimes they can help, which is why he needs to see a psych. Nobody here should be advising him; that's a professional's job.

"End it all"? You're a fucking idiot, thief. You're actually advocating suicide to someone who is quite possibly clinically depressed? Even if that's a joke, it's not funny at all. What's even more ironic is you'd say that during National Suicide Prevention Week.


The value in having an disinterested person listen to you is that you do not have the obligation or duty to treat this person as a friend. This potentially allows for more honest disclosure of what you're experiencing at this time.

This is the point I was trying to convey. Coleman, you should at least give it a try. If it's not for you, there are other options to explore. Keep your head up.

[REL0AD]

What's even more ironic is you'd say that during National Suicide Prevention Week.

For real? LMFAO!!!!!

[thief]

Nobody here should be advising him; that's a professional's job.


End of story. Stop talking.

[lcnostra]

Right. Guess he just needs to man up and stop being a bitch? You have given the absolute worst advice on the subject. Do you think that clinical depression is like the common cold, and it just goes away after a week of rest and fluids? Get over yourself.

Coleman,

I sincerely hope you ignore the garbage he's posted. Let us know how you're doing.

[need2knowbases]

I appreciate all the replies. For the ones saying that Rorta can't 'advise' me, I don't think that's necessarily the case, I don't plan to use this as a definitive answer (it seems that me going is the general consensus.)

Thief was being a complete douchebag, but did make a valid point. Not about me being a 'girl' or a 'bitch', which got me really fucking upset at first, but I know that he doesn't know shit about me or what I go through, so I pretty much dismissed that.

But, the fact is, it is very passive agressive of me to sit here and make forum posts bitching about how hard of a time I am having, thinking that I will get the answers to what I should do to make everything better from people that I don't even know, and it was also wrong of me to waste the other user's time. (Not necessarily this thread, because I believe that speaking about how well professional help has worked for you is a good topic to have, but others I have made.)

That being said, I was, and am, refraining from posting. I know that if I take posting to Rorta out of my routine I will be much less likely to come on here, and make another bitch thread which simply wastes space.

The thing that makes the most sense to me is that going to my friends for help may not be the best idea, because they know me so well. That being said, I am pretty sure this is something that I will pursue, there is an issue of cost, along with the fact that I don't have a general practitioner of a doctor, the last time I went was in 2007 and that was at the health center at school, before that was the last school physical in 2006. But, this can all be remedied, there is just the issue of cost, which will be managable through government programs until I can secure a job.

Again, thank you all for the replies. I will still watch this thread for a while as I will others, but I won't be posting, or even logging in, until I feel like I am together enough to not be walking on glass day in and day out.

[REL0AD]

Peace.

[thief]

Tough love colman... its the only way. See what it made you do... the right thing. I thank you.

[REL0AD]

Get yourself a 3litre bottle of strong cider, sit your arse in a park or bus shelter and mix with the locals. Hell, why not bang yourself a prositute??

You could always turn to serial murder?

[Tricho]

Get yourself a 3litre bottle of strong cider, sit your arse in a park or bus shelter and mix with the locals. Hell, why not bang yourself a prositute??

You could always turn to serial murder?

Lol you could always turn to serial murder LOL. I think what would be better for his personality would be Mass Murder. Just a giant rampage. Cause Serial Murderers don't really get depressed lol.

[thief]

Thief was being a complete douchebag, but did make a valid point. Not about me being a 'girl' or a 'bitch', but I know that he doesn't know shit about me or what I go through.

I never once called you a bitch. A girl yes... never a bitch. Who uses the word "douchebag" only that faggot "sxephill" ???

Please enlightening me / us, as to what it is that "you go through" I would love to know what it is and why it has you so "depressed"

[REL0AD]

Lol you could always turn to serial murder LOL. I think what would be better for his personality would be Mass Murder. Just a giant rampage. Cause Serial Murderers don't really get depressed lol.

To rights Tricho, damn I'm starting to like you. But aye, depending what mood I'm in affects my murdering fantasys so I know what you mean by saying he should go on a rampage. :alcoholic

[Twist]

Lol you could always turn to serial murder LOL. I think what would be better for his personality would be Mass Murder. Just a giant rampage. Cause Serial Murderers don't really get depressed lol.

lol lol lol L O fucking L how many lol's can you fit in a fucking sentence lol lol lol.

[Th0r]

Lol you could always turn to serial murder LOL. I think what would be better for his personality would be Mass Murder. Just a giant rampage. Cause Serial Murderers don't really get depressed lol.


It's not funny.

I was once a member of an Internet community where someone bought a gun and did just that. And this was someone who I talked to on a regular basis.

We're talking about a member here either killing himself or killing others, or both. That, in my mind is not in the slightest bit funny.

[Twist]

It's not funny.

I was once a member of an Internet community where someone bought a gun and did just that. And this was someone who I talked to on a regular basis.

We're talking about a member here either killing himself or killing others, or both. That, in my mind is not in the slightest bit funny.

You are correct my post above yours was not a sign of amusement just for clarification.

[thief]

Meh

[lcnostra]

It's not funny.

I was once a member of an Internet community where someone bought a gun and did just that. And this was someone who I talked to on a regular basis.

We're talking about a member here either killing himself or killing others, or both. That, in my mind is not in the slightest bit funny.


Thank you. It's clear that some people here don't consider clinical depression or mental instability to be real problems. There's a time and place for jokes; it's not this topic.


Please enlightening me / us, as to what it is that "you go through" I would love to know what it is and why it has you so "depressed"

He already said he doesn't want to talk about it. Just let him find his routine and do what makes him happy.

[thief]

Thank you Dr.

[REL0AD]

It's clear that some people here don't consider clinical depression or mental instability to be real problems.


Do you know how many 'problems' I'm actually diagnosed with? Just cause some of us don't come to Rorta and preach about wanting love doesn't mean we aint suffering.... bubba. :nana:

[Tricho]

Unfortunately Reload I only have a AIM. I'll pm it to you if you have one.

[REL0AD]

I don't have AIM.

[lcnostra]

Just cause some of us don't come to Rorta and preach about wanting love doesn't mean we aint suffering

If you did, I'd address you no differently than I've addressed Coleman in this thread. You deserve our attention just as much as anyone else here.

[REL0AD]

But what I'm saying is I & many others with mental health problems talk to our GPs, shrinks, social workers etc. We don't come online seeking help from an underground forum.

[lcnostra]

But what I'm saying is I & many others with mental health problems talk to our GPs, shrinks, social workers etc. We don't come online seeking help from an underground forum.

Which is the correct medium for assessing psychological issues....

Hopefully we've pointed coleman in the right direction.

[REL0AD]

hmm

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For the record Coleman is fine.