Mercy a weakness?

[Tricho]

Is mercy a weakness? I personally see it as one. To me mercy is the ultimate weakness in life. Mercy to me is unimaginable to me personally. Discuss!!! If you think this thread is ridiculous I am Tricho an am extremely outspoken person. So yeah discuss not my outspokenness only Mercy. Discuss!!!



PS i know Ted Bundy is my avatar so you'd be an asshole to judge me off of him.

[XnbX]

Mercy is a sign of power. What is easier, to forgive someone or to punish him? After he has done something bad to you. If you are merciful you show that you are above him and his action. That's a sign of true power.

[thief]

Saying sorry is a sign of weakness

[odin_dax]

Saying sorry is a sign of weakness

Not true at all. Some people say sorry for the other's pride, some to get back into the good graces of people they'll later fuck over. Others say it because they mean it, which isn't weakness at all.

Pride is weakness.

[7eleven mafia]

Mercy depending on what your being merciful on can be a sign of weakness or someone who doesn't let anger cloud their judgment and see past things

[thief]

Saying sorry is a sign of weakness still stands Odin in my eyes and since everyone has their own opinions we will never come to a conclusion on which we all agree on. End of story.

[odin_dax]

I don't get how you think sorry is still a weakness since you haven't responded to my points, thief. Can you explain to me how you think saying sorry just to end a fight between friends is weakness? Or saying sorry to get closer to an enemy you plan on fucking over later in time is weakness?

[need2knowbases]

People who think saying 'sorry' is weak are the same people who think that showing any emotion at all is useless and unnecessary.

A.K.A. They're probably a giant asshole.

Hopefully that sheds some light, Odin.

As for me, I wouldn't say it's 'weak' to apologize just to end a fight, but at the same time it is probably the better choice, especially between friends, but then again this concept is foreign to people like Thief and Tricho I would imagine.

[thief]

It all depends on the situation its used in. As Odin said if you say sorry to get closer to an enemy is not really saying sorry... your just telling the guy what he wants to hear. I mean as in really saying sorry. I find it a weakness.

Lets say this.. a man is having an argument with his wife, but he is correct, his wife stops talking to him... he feels sad... he says sorry, She accepts it. Its like a dog showing its underside... its weak. Why couldn’t he stick to his guns and let her come back with a sorry because he was right.

Lets take another example... A guy bumps into you in the street, clearly his fault but your the one who turns and says sorry... that’s weak. I don’t expect everyone to see eye to eye with me, but that’s how I feel about the word sorry and some ways in which its used and its weakness.

[odin_dax]

It all depends on the situation its used in. As Odin said if you say sorry to get closer to an enemy is not really saying sorry... your just telling the guy what he wants to hear. I mean as in really saying sorry. I find it a weakness.

Lets say this.. a man is having an argument with his wife, but he is correct, his wife stops talking to him... he feels sad... he says sorry, She accepts it. Its like a dog showing its underside... its weak. Why couldn?t he stick to his guns and let her come back with a sorry because he was right.

Lets take another example... A guy bumps into you in the street, clearly his fault but your the one who turns and says sorry... that?s weak. I don?t expect everyone to see eye to eye with me, but that?s how I feel about the word sorry and some ways in which its used and its weakness.

Thanks for elaborating, thief. I can understand why in your first example you may find it weakness, but you must also think that apologizing outweighs not doing so. To speak in second person, you won't be angry, you'll dispel the atmosphere of anger so it won't build up, maybe you're worried about the kids seeing their parents angry, AND/OR YOU JUST WANT TO GET LAID!!!!!!! These are possible motives that could be confused with weakness. The weakness may not be the apology, but sex addiction. Sometimes no weakness. Of course, all of the above isn't to say that in people in those situations aren't always something other than weak, but only to say that it's not always the case that they are.

For the second example, maybe. I don't know many people in that situation who wouldn't say, "Hey, watch it" or "Excuse me!" People that would tend to say sorry in that situation are likely to be those not paying attention. People bump into each other even when you are paying attention, especially in crowds. It happens. Many people will say sorry or something to that effect because they're being polite. We are social animals. When you bump someone, it's instinctive to assume you're being challenged. Saying sorry or something other defuses that right away. Also, consider that when most adults bump into something, or cut themselves, they usually say "Ow" even though it doesn't really hurt and never did. This is because we're trained to say this response as kids. (We are also trained to assume saying "Ow" or "Ouch" will follow with affectionate attention, but I digress.)

[REL0AD]

I agree with odin_dax.

[thief]

I dont

[Tricho]

I agree pretty much with Thief here. Mercy and compassion only lead down roads of weakness. Especially with people who know how to play on that particular weakness to their advantage and sometimes they can do this actually really well. My view on saying sorry especially if you mean it is incredibly weak. Though in some circumstance when your lying to fuck a girl or make her think your a good guy.

[odin_dax]

In addition to everything I've said, saying sorry if you're wrong isn't weakness.

Your weakness is pride, thief and Tricho.

[thief]

Everybody no matter how big or small has pride. You have kids... your proud of your son/daughter, you climb Mt. Everst you have pride, You play the home team and win you have pride. Although if you are CONCEITED then yes THATS a weakness. Im not conceited but I have pride as does every other living human.

[The Jinn]

Mercy is a sign of power. What is easier, to forgive someone or to punish him? After he has done something bad to you. If you are merciful you show that you are above him and his action. That's a sign of true power.


Mercy or compassion is a product of empathy, but just because a person has the ability to empathize does not necessarily equate a compassionate disposition.

An empathetic person who also has an incredible resilience to suffering will typically find it difficult to be compassionate towards others who are sensitive to the most insignificant discomforts ... even if they can imagine themselves facing the same challenges.

We tend to dismiss the suffering that make a child cry (i.e a toy being taken away). The stronger you become the less significant ALL suffering becomes.

[iceniner]

We tend to dismiss the suffering that make a child cry (i.e a toy being taken away). The stronger you become the less significant ALL suffering becomes.

There's also the effort factor involved with harming people. If you wouldn't pull wings off flies, why hurt a human? Humans are just another kind of insect, after all, and are indistinguishably close to flies on any sort of scale of cosmic objectivity.

Every tiny little infinitesimal dot in this picture is a galaxy, and this is just a miniscule sliver of the sky, and only to a depth we can see with our pathetic little telescopes:

http://www.gabers.com/images/Astronomy/hubble-Galaxy.jpg

Kind of makes you not want to bother getting up in the morning to face another day of pointless suffering. How many other little bacteria are there that are just like you?

[XnbX]

That cosmic vision works both ways. Everything bad that's done to you is insignificant so why bother with revenge.

I fail to see what flies and killing humans has anything directly to do with the OP question. :pat:

[The Jinn]

There's also the effort factor involved with harming people. If you wouldn't pull wings off flies, why hurt a human? Humans are just another kind of insect, after all, and are indistinguishably close to flies on any sort of scale of cosmic objectivity.

In my mind, there are plenty of reasons to bother. Humans are far far more annoying and harmful to your mental and physical well being than a fly could ever be. I have years of grudges and anger towards specific people that I keep contained ... I'm a reluctant pacifist because in these civilized times showing any form of physical violence or domination quickly results in negative consequences and social quarantine .... this does not seem to be healthy for me, but I agree with you, it's all pointless in the end.

Every tiny little infinitesimal dot in this picture is a galaxy, and this is just a miniscule sliver of the sky, and only to a depth we can see with our pathetic little telescopes:

Kind of makes you not want to bother getting up in the morning to face another day of pointless suffering. How many other little bacteria are there that are just like you?

You seem like a cosmicist.

[The Jinn]

Of course, people at a disadvantage will spin situations in any direction to save their ego.

A physically weak man will feign superiority when he turns away from a physical confrontation, acting like it's beneath him, uncivilized, low and barbaric, for unintelligent losers etc...

[CommonPlaceTool]

Inflict not on an enemy every injury in your power, for he may afterwards become your friend.

Wise words. As always, you must consider the situation. If you have the option to show mercy on someone useful, it might be wise to do so. After all, your enemy must have some worth to be your enemy.

[Saturday]

It all depends on the situation its used in. As Odin said if you say sorry to get closer to an enemy is not really saying sorry... your just telling the guy what he wants to hear. I mean as in really saying sorry. I find it a weakness.

Lets say this.. a man is having an argument with his wife, but he is correct, his wife stops talking to him... he feels sad... he says sorry, She accepts it. Its like a dog showing its underside... its weak. Why couldn’t he stick to his guns and let her come back with a sorry because he was right.

Lets take another example... A guy bumps into you in the street, clearly his fault but your the one who turns and says sorry... that’s weak. I don’t expect everyone to see eye to eye with me, but that’s how I feel about the word sorry and some ways in which its used and its weakness.

Telling your wife that you are sorry is also a form of telling someone what they want to hear, just like getting closer to an enemy.

People who are always saying sorry are weak because they are weak. They are either constantly making excuses by saying sorry, or they are a submissive person, OR they are just always fucking up and constantly need to apologize to people.

[CommonPlaceTool]

Not everyone who says sorry a lot is weak... they could just be Canadian.

Other than that, you're right.

[Abrazaderas]

i always get a funny feeling from people that talk about being strong and what is weakness and stuff. i can't put my finger on it, but i don't like it. and i enjoy showing them up. I Am Adjustment.

I don't think mercy is a weakness, but stupidity is. if a person broke something of mine completely on accident and then felt really bad it, i would forgive them. if they did it out of gross negligence and lack of concern for my belongings, i'd yell at them and call them out for being an asshole, and depending on the severity of the negligence demand/take restitution. if they did it out of hostility and malice, i'd make them regret it. i consider these appropriate responses.

i'd find it a weakness in myself if someone maliciously harmed my property and i ignored it. i'd also find it a weakness in myself if someone spilt my drink and i knocked them out.

[Tarnak]

Thief -

What if you borrowed your friends car and crashed it? It was your fault. How do you feel? Would you apologize and mean it?

[Leshrac]

Mercy killed far more people than cruelty.

Catholics thought they showed mercy when slaughtering half of europe for example.
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Sometimes the cruelest thing to do is to let someone live.

[Leshrac]

Sometimes the cruelest thing to do is to let someone live.

Death only solves a problem; It's not rewarding enough.

You know how at first you just feel like killing people who bug you ? Then you realize... Hmmm... No lesson learned there.

Now what if I critically but not lethally injured X and let him suffer for decades ?

Mercy ? Cruelty ? Bleh, draw a line in the sand...

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