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torcher
23rd September 2009, 07:37 PM
The full article here: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/fbi-nsac/

The FBI?s Data-Mining Ore

Composed of government information, commercial databases and records acquired in criminal and terrorism probes, the FBI?s National Security Branch Analysis Center is too broad to be considered mission-focused, but still too patchy to be Orwellian. Here?s the data we know about.

? International travel records of citizens and foreigners

? Financial forms filed with the Treasury by banks and casinos

? 55,000 entries on customers of Wyndham Worldwide, which includes Ramada Inn, Days Inn, Super 8, Howard Johnson and Hawthorn Suites

? 730 records from rental-car company Avis

? 165 credit card transaction histories from Sears

? Nearly 200 million records transferred from private data brokers such Accurint, Acxiom and Choicepoint

? A reverse White Pages with 696 million names and addresses tied to U.S. phone numbers

? Log data on all calls made by federal prison inmates

? A list of all active pilots

? 500,000 names of suspected terrorists from the Unified Terrorist Watch List

? Nearly 3 million records on people cleared to drive hazardous materials on the nation?s highways

? Telephone records and wiretapped conversations captured by FBI investigations

? 17,000 traveler itineraries from the Airlines Reporting Corporation

odin_dax
23rd September 2009, 08:22 PM
I thought they did all that already.... Well, no biggie to me. I'm not worried they're going to sell to marketers, so... All that information seems like it can be easily collected and compiled. I really don't see the concern here.

Th0r
23rd September 2009, 09:14 PM
It emphasises a point I've been making for a while.

Always cover your tracks.

Also...

? Financial forms filed with the Treasury by banks and casinos - Don't blow your loot in Vegas. Also see Criminal Rule #18.

Never invest the proceeds in a bank.

? 730 records from rental-car company Avis - Don't rent cars and if you have to use a Fake ID.

? 55,000 entries on customers of Wyndham Worldwide, which includes Ramada Inn, Days Inn, Super 8, Howard Johnson and Hawthorn Suites - Use smaller hotels/motels.

? 165 credit card transaction histories from Sears - Never use a CC. See Rule 18.

? A reverse White Pages with 696 million names and addresses tied to U.S. phone numbers - Fuck cell phones and domestic phones. VOIP & 'pay as you go' Cell phones are the way of the future.

? Log data on all calls made by federal prison inmates - Don't get in prison, and don't call your associates on the prison phone systems either. It's worth the money of buying a cell on the inside. Obviously this isn't possible in federal. But it is at county/city level.

? A list of all active pilots

? 500,000 names of suspected terrorists from the Unified Terrorist Watch List

? Nearly 3 million records on people cleared to drive hazardous materials on the nation?s highways

This makes it look as if they're only expecting legit people, or people identified as potential threats to be involved in terrorist related incidents.

? Telephone records and wiretapped conversations captured by FBI investigations - See previous point on telecommunications. Also see Criminal Rule 22.

Æhµ
23rd September 2009, 11:08 PM
I hope they choke to death on all that data. This doesn't mention the NSA's data-snooping programs, nor the recent announcement that the White House is set to collect all social network data (comments you ever made in the blogosphere or on Facebook/Myspace).

Th0r, FYI I was in federal prison and cell phones are RAMPANT there. Cell phones, Blackberrys, and now Iphones, I talk to one of my good friends who's still in prison on his iPhone. Every now and then me or his other friends will send money to his sister just to help him cover his phone bill. He's even surfing the web over it.

When I was in there, we'd set up a file sharing site just so we could swap MP3's via our cell phones to download to our MP3 players (which we also had in prison), it's a big hussle, even CO's get in on it. Although if you get caught with one it can be an escape charge. It's at the city level you won't find cell phones, your not locked up in a city jail long enough to make it worth smuggling one in and you have a much more restrictive environment in city jails.

The records from the data brokers are the most damaging to privacy, these agencies collect an insane amount of information on people and their buying/shopping/lifestyle habits.

Th0r
23rd September 2009, 11:34 PM
Æhµ - Thanks for the information. I was under the impression all federal prisons were almost Supermax level. My bad.

crazy white guy
24th September 2009, 12:27 AM
?h? - Thanks for the information. I was under the impression all federal prisons were almost Supermax level. My bad.

Theres very few large maximum security prisons in the US. They keep them small and only 1 or 2 per state so that you don't have an army of 30,000 violent prisoners running together after a power outage if there's a backup power failure. I understood that the large ones are the kind that noone leaves from unless theres some absurd and special circumstance. Basically it only serves the life sentence crowd. Tha way there's very little manpower needed. Just a tall inscalable wall and a few full auto clad guards that are fired for being too trigger happy to be in any normal prison.

I dont know much about US judicial system sop I may be wrong in all this info.

Th0r
24th September 2009, 12:42 AM
There are well over forty Supermax prisons in the States, according to Wikipedia!

I'm not sure about you, but to me that's a fairly big number.

And yes, the FedGov are desperate to avoid another Marion type incident. In terms of security here's a general idea of what a typical Supermax cell looks like, apparently.

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/05/05/GR2006050500157.gif

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I'm aware we're off topic, but this is highly interesting.

torcher
24th September 2009, 12:44 AM
there are two Maximum Security Prisons in a town next to mine. one is State, and the other, almost across the street, is Federal

Æhµ
24th September 2009, 01:43 AM
In the federal system , you have supermaxes, then USPs, which are "United States Penetentiarys", those go from max, to medium, to low security. Then you have satellite camps, which have no fences. If you get sentenced to 10 years or more, you go straight to a max. You work your way down to lower security prisons based on your security points. Maxes and mediums are nearly identical in setup, the only real difference is how they allow you to move. Lows tend to be more open, and camps are wide open. I started out at a max and finished at a camp.

thief
24th September 2009, 01:18 PM
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/05/05/GR2006050500157.gif

Look at that... someone would go fucking nuts in there. :bigeyes2:

Tarnak
28th September 2009, 05:56 AM
JEEZ they have all that?

I want to work for the FBI now.


If I did I could pwn all of you.

odin_dax
28th September 2009, 05:57 AM
JEEZ they have all that?

I want to work for the FBI now.


If I did I could pwn all of you.

Find the LE on this board and ask! (hint of sarcasm)

REL0AD
28th September 2009, 08:26 AM
Don't rent cars and if you have to use a Fake ID.

Made me laugh that, though Timothy McVeigh used his real name for the Ryder truck IIRC.

Th0r
28th September 2009, 06:55 PM
Made me laugh that, though Timothy McVeigh used his real name for the Ryder truck IIRC.

He used the alias Robert Kling, IIRC.

The owner of the Ryder Rental Place helped the Cops produce a drawing of McVeigh.

Æhµ
29th September 2009, 12:50 AM
I think they also recovered a six-month old ATM security camera photo of McVeigh in the area of the UHaul.