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Scamula
21st April 2006, 03:49 AM
Do any of you all have allergies? If so, what do you use to treat them? I use Zyrtec currently but it makes me so tired and my mouth so dry. It also gives me a sore throat and itchy palate. On top of that, it is not doing much for the symptoms. I would like to try something new. What would you suggest?
duiker
21st April 2006, 07:52 AM
I'm an advocate of letting the body heal itself rather than contradicting it with drugs. So, I would reccomend seeing a naturopath that does live blood analysis for general wellbeing, and then I would reccomend seeing someone who deals with food types and allergies naturally. I don't know much about it but I know that allergies can be dealt with and cured.
When I saw the naturopath, he told me exactly what problems my body was dealing with, within an hour. Ie, toxins in the body, adrenal stress, and damage to an organ caused by antibiotics years ago, told me what the cells in my body were doing, and what I could do to improve my health and repair whatever problems. It's pretty amazing.
If a doctor tells you a condition is permanent, tell him he's lying. The body is capable of healing itself of incredible injuries and illnesses, provided it has access to the proper nutrients. The latter part is kind of rare in this day and age of a used food chain though.
Scamula
22nd April 2006, 04:27 AM
I'm an advocate of letting the body heal itself rather than contradicting it with drugs. So, I would reccomend seeing a naturopath that does live blood analysis for general wellbeing, and then I would reccomend seeing someone who deals with food types and allergies naturally. I don't know much about it but I know that allergies can be dealt with and cured.
When I saw the naturopath, he told me exactly what problems my body was dealing with, within an hour. Ie, toxins in the body, adrenal stress, and damage to an organ caused by antibiotics years ago, told me what the cells in my body were doing, and what I could do to improve my health and repair whatever problems. It's pretty amazing.
If a doctor tells you a condition is permanent, tell him he's lying. The body is capable of healing itself of incredible injuries and illnesses, provided it has access to the proper nutrients. The latter part is kind of rare in this day and age of a used food chain though.
Excellent points. A lot of times all modern medicine can offer you is expensive drugs and treatments but no real cures.
SayItAintSo014
22nd April 2006, 07:46 PM
I have allergies as well, and i once used zyrtec, it helped but it became a dependency. If i didn't take it i would be runny and stuffed up and all that shit. So i just stopped using it, and my allergies rarely act up now. I would suggest not using allergy medicines.
DoctaD
22nd April 2006, 10:55 PM
I would rather take an antihistamine than hope my body will naturally fight something off.
Scamula
23rd April 2006, 05:38 AM
I have allergies as well, and i once used zyrtec, it helped but it became a dependency. If i didn't take it i would be runny and stuffed up and all that shit. So i just stopped using it, and my allergies rarely act up now. I would suggest not using allergy medicines.
I tried to do that. i just quit taking any drugs and for awhile I seemed okay (like a couple of days), then it came back with a vengenence.
SayItAintSo014
23rd April 2006, 06:50 AM
Yeah, you'll have that for a little while. It takes your body a while to get used to not using the drug. You'll have a period where you feel like shit because of your allergies, but then afterwards your allergies rarely ever act up.
Scamula
25th April 2006, 02:36 AM
Yeah, you'll have that for a little while. It takes your body a while to get used to not using the drug. You'll have a period where you feel like shit because of your allergies, but then afterwards your allergies rarely ever act up.
How long is a "little while"?
SayItAintSo014
25th April 2006, 01:01 PM
I'm not sure, i didn't really keep track, but i'd say maybe a month. It's just a stage though.
Heavy_'TalMeMan
5th May 2006, 07:52 AM
Dude, I think that dynamic meditation can help you with that. I have had allergies in the past but meditation helped me a lot. You know like, imagining myself getting better and allergy free at deep levels of meditation. It's strange, but it actually works for me. Talk about psychosomatics..no wonder I'm so interested in psychology..crazy, huh?
Scamula
7th May 2006, 04:45 AM
Dude, I think that dynamic meditation can help you with that. I have had allergies in the past but meditation helped me a lot. You know like, imagining myself getting better and allergy free at deep levels of meditation. It's strange, but it actually works for me. Talk about psychosomatics..no wonder I'm so interested in psychology..crazy, huh?
This is different...:thinkerg:
Nox (ADVANCED)
7th May 2006, 05:47 AM
definatly
madscientist
25th May 2006, 04:14 PM
The whole "natural" thing is foolish... in nature, humans suffer greatly and die off constantly.
I'd like to see a doctor try to use "naturopathy" to try to cure asthma, heart disease, cancer, etc... probably would get charged with murder.
The "naturopathy" shit is often no more founded on science than religion. New age hokus bogus.
Yeah, you'll have that for a little while. It takes your body a while to get used to not using the drug. You'll have a period where you feel like shit because of your allergies, but then afterwards your allergies rarely ever act up.
That was the case with you, not most people with allergies. Yours are probably mild.
SayItAintSo014
25th May 2006, 09:10 PM
Here, tell me this. Do you have allergies madscientist? And if so, then how do YOU treat them. If you don't have allergies, then shut the fuck up, because you wouldn't know what the fuck to do about them if you were fed up with the medication. And you took the whole naturopathy thing way out of line. We're talking about simple allergies, not cancer.
kbk
25th May 2006, 09:23 PM
My allergies are really acting up right now, draining sinuses and what not. It's terrible.
ComfortablyNumb
26th May 2006, 02:31 AM
Here, tell me this. Do you have allergies madscientist? And if so, then how do YOU treat them. If you don't have allergies, then shut the fuck up, because you wouldn't know what the fuck to do about them if you were fed up with the medication. And you took the whole naturopathy thing way out of line. We're talking about simple allergies, not cancer.
I do have allergies, and I agree with madscientist, naturopathy is bullshit. Now, mine may be mild, but when they act up, they act up and the only thing that makes them go away is drugs or just waiting till whatever is bothering me goes away/I go away from it. And you say ur talking about allergies, not cancer, well how bout this one: I have a severe allergy to something that they put in pools to condition the water, it makes my whole body swell up as well as my air passages, cutting off my breathing, without some sort of antihistamine put into my body from outside, I would be dead because my own body was fucking up (afterall thats what causes allergies, your own body is malfunctioning). Another example is people who are allergic to beestings- if they just wait around hoping that "nature" wil cure it, they will die. simple.
DoctaD
26th May 2006, 08:30 AM
you wouldn't know
Heh, using this small phrase towards madscientist?
If you have an allergic reaction to something, you try to avoid what causes it. If it's a food, cut it out of your diet... if it's a type of cleaning product, don't use it.
If it's an allergy to pollen, for example, you won't be cutting it out very fast... but riding the thick train and waiting for yourself to become magically better will only work out of pure coinsidence or with the changing of the seasons.
"I had hay fever but I didn't treat it and now it's gone, shame it's snowing outside though..."
Eulux
29th May 2006, 05:24 AM
I've generally found that if you buy some honey from a local bee keeper, it contains the pollens of the surrounding area...and that mixed with lime and alcohol...preferably tequila...helps. it gets it in your system and performs like a flu shot. gives your body a little of that ailment, and it helps to build the immunity.
Nox (ADVANCED)
29th May 2006, 11:23 AM
that could be true but remember the personal tolerance of it an the metabolism an have to have local honey which some may not have axesece to im not saying use nature nothing or sience. if u let nature dont u belive it is also the mind that helps because u belive that product works it may be true so those ppl who belive in science arnt hurtin them self they are taking a "placebo" in a way. but than there are some who try natural way an may not work they migh not be "putting their mind to it" and the ppl who r science belive theirs works or actually do somethin chemical wise. but there aree ppl whop go from science to nature than to science becase it "didnt work" they rely on chemicals. where as a nature goes ti science than nature becase they didnt belive it workled.
theres a point for each oither veiws opn a way im on the fence.
im sorry 2 many 420
madscientist
30th May 2006, 04:38 PM
Here, tell me this. Do you have allergies madscientist? And if so, then how do YOU treat them. If you don't have allergies, then shut the fuck up, because you wouldn't know what the fuck to do about them if you were fed up with the medication. And you took the whole naturopathy thing way out of line.
I have really bad seasonal allergies. If I don't have an antihistamine in my system in the fall, I will sneeze literally hundreds of times a day and be completely nonfunctional/miserable. And that wasn't just imaginary "withdrawal" from allergy medications - I was without for the entirety of late last summer/fall.
Only treatment I have available is lots of antihistamines, corticosteroids (nasal inhaler to reduce inflammation in the nasal passages), and decongestants... going for allergy shots now though, which will hopefully be more effective. Antihistamines tire you out, and certainly don't make life like you're without allergies.
We're talking about simple allergies, not cancer.
As said by others above... allergies can be deadly. And I mentioned asthma, which is often closely related to allergies, and is also dangerous.
I've generally found that if you buy some honey from a local bee keeper, it contains the pollens of the surrounding area...and that mixed with lime and alcohol...preferably tequila...helps. it gets it in your system and performs like a flu shot. gives your body a little of that ailment, and it helps to build the immunity.
That's a good idea... I'd be looking into that if I weren't getting allergy shots already.
Eulux
31st May 2006, 02:19 AM
yeah, they wanted me to get allergy shots, so I did that about once a week and joined football...since high school my allergies haven't returned to such a degree...perhaps I was allergic to high school...
and that completes the high school cliches.
Scamula
31st May 2006, 08:04 PM
I've done allergy shots when I was younger. They worked okay when i was on them but now that I am off, I am right back where I started. I tried the no meds thingy for over a month and it didn't work well for me.
I am now trying the antihistamine Allegra.
Claritin (and Clarinex) which is basically the same is not all that it is made out to be.
It may be "just allergies", but the drugs are expensive and people have died from allergic reactions. Allergies also can trigger asthma which is very dangerous. It is essential that we look at these things.
Did you know that allergies can also cause sore throats, tiredness, stomaches , headaches and loss of energy and sleep?
madscientist
31st May 2006, 08:36 PM
Did you know that allergies can also cause sore throats, tiredness, stomaches , headaches and loss of energy and sleep?
All too well... I have dark marks under my eyes over 2" long from allergies, and haven't felt awake a single time (without drugs) in years. The fatigue is the main reason I'm interested in trying shots and the like - the other symptoms I would be able to just deal with.
DoctaD
31st May 2006, 11:53 PM
antihistamines can cause serious problems for asthma sufferers, but I have mild asthma, and have never had a problem.
Scamula
1st June 2006, 12:10 AM
All too well... I have dark marks under my eyes over 2" long from allergies, and haven't felt awake a single time (without drugs) in years. The fatigue is the main reason I'm interested in trying shots and the like - the other symptoms I would be able to just deal with.
I may have missed this earlier, but what brand of antihistamine do you take? I felt dead on the Zyrtec, but I was conscious on the Claritin and more so on the Clarinex. I feel at least half way decent on the Allegra.
madscientist
1st June 2006, 12:16 AM
Allegra, and sometimes Benadryl as well if they're really bad.
Scamula
4th June 2006, 03:58 AM
Allegra, and sometimes Benadryl as well if they're really bad.
Damn. :(
Allegra is supposed to be a nonsedating antihistamine. You're right...nothing seems to be working for you. The shots may be your best option.
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