Making Napalm [Archive]

SayItAintSo014

4th May 2006, 08:16 PM

Making Napalm

Here's an article on how to make napalm. It's a fairly simple matter really.
You will need the following:
One nicely sized bucket.
A shit ton of styrofoam.
Gasoline
A stirring utensil of some sort. (Don't use a spoon if you want to use it again)

Getting Started

Take your nicely sized bucket. (About 8 inches deep, with a 6 inch diameter) Now you want to fill it about an eighth of the way up.
(Depending on how much Napalm you want)
NOTE: A LITTLE BIT OF GASOLINE GOES A LONG WAY!
Now you want to have a ton of styrofoam for this. Now break up your styrofoam into chunks small enough to fit into the bucket.
Take your stirring utensil, and stab and stir at the styrofoam and mix it with the gasoline until it starts forming a silly putty-like
substance. Keep adding more styrofoam and gasoline (If needed), and mix it very well until you have as much putty solution as
you want. The general idea of Napalm is to stick to things and to mold to fit into places that you want it to go. Pretty much like C4,
except it doesn't explode. Napalm is just flammable, and burns for a long time.
Another fun thing to do with Napalm is to put it on water and set it on fire. (Yes, Napalm floats)

That's pretty much it. If you have any questions just tell me.

DoctaD

4th May 2006, 09:16 PM

Sticky petrol... ive never seen use use for it.

SayItAintSo014

4th May 2006, 09:24 PM

I don't really use it for anything, I just like to burn it. It's pretty cool to put it on your skateboard wheels and light it and ride. It looks pretty cool.

INCH06

8th May 2006, 02:54 PM

Splendid & straightforward information Sayitaintso. Nice one.

I once took immense enjoyment in burning random bits and pieces & such with this potion back when I first gained knowledge of how to create it, I came to the conclusion however that it was damn fucking tedious after I came across BP, added to the small fact that petrol obliterates stuff very much the same anyhow. :wiggle:

SayItAintSo014

9th May 2006, 01:45 AM

Thanks. I'm glad that my information entertained you for a while.

INCH06

11th May 2006, 12:06 AM

I forgot to ask... Does it not fuck your wheels/base? :ouch:

SayItAintSo014

12th May 2006, 01:01 AM

I'm assuming that it would fuck them up. I haven't actually ridden a skateboard with flaming wheels. I just threw a skateboard wheel into a small pile of napalm and it caught.

INCH06

12th May 2006, 11:10 AM

Ah seen.

KjeXz

18th May 2006, 05:54 PM

Me and my girlfriend tried to make this concoction in a 1.5 liter sodabottle.. Problem is, it can't really take any big chunks. I'm wondering; will the gas evaporate before we're able to stuff enough styrofoam into it?

INCH06

18th May 2006, 07:25 PM

I'm wondering; will the gas evaporate before we're able to stuff enough styrofoam into it?

Are you having a laugh?

SayItAintSo014

20th May 2006, 04:01 AM

DoctaD

21st May 2006, 03:07 AM

Are you a fucking idiot? The gasoline wouldn't evaporate too soon because it's in a condensed liquid form. It would take a century for all the gas you'll be using to evaporate. And you use something that can take big chunks, as posted in the THREAD. If you knew how to READ we wouldn't have this problem.

Sorry, I'm high, and i can't handle ignorance as well as I can when I'm sober.

Don't be a dick.

RELOAD, with the rate petrol evaporates you would be safe enough as long as you're not doing a shallow saucer at a time. A mug of juice, for example, would not dissappear in any short time.

Better not smoking at the time, though.

TheInCircut

21st May 2006, 07:23 AM

INCH06

21st May 2006, 12:45 PM

Don't be a dick.

RELOAD, with the rate petrol evaporates you would be safe enough as long as you're not doing a shallow saucer at a time. A mug of juice, for example, would not dissappear in any short time.

Yeah, I know Docta, it was KjeXz who asked the dumb question lol.

When I said "Are you having a laugh?" that means basically "Are you taking the piss".

SayItAintSo014

25th May 2006, 09:12 PM

Nox (ADVANCED)

26th May 2006, 05:04 AM

uhhhh how old is this kid?

ComfortablyNumb

26th May 2006, 05:15 AM

hey now, dont yell at the kid, maybe his mother is retarded... that might explain some things...

Nox (ADVANCED)

28th May 2006, 01:31 PM

:sigh1: im sorry mate didnt mean to be disrespectful*

*cant spell i know

duiker

29th May 2006, 11:05 AM

THErAPIST

30th May 2006, 06:18 AM

:sigh1:

Nox (ADVANCED)

30th May 2006, 10:16 AM

I cant really make it at my house because of my parents but it would be awsome to take like 4 gallons of this shit and pour it into my pool and light it. I can imagine my mom calling 911 telling them that there was an oil spill

ok lets be serious for a second u would have to have a shitload of styrofoam to produce 4 gallons/15.16 litres of "sticky petrol" ok maybe u live near the factory or somethin. the price of petrol at the moment im sure u would waste that money. here in my area 15.16 liters cost around AUD $20. and do u frequntly have oil tankers float past your house in youre pool??
and if u where to do it an u mother called the authorites u may be put up with some charges.

$0.02

INCH06

31st May 2006, 12:46 AM

I cant really make it at my house because of my parents.

Dude, perhaps you could get a paint tin and experiment... You don?t have to do mass production your first time.

because of my parents

At least they care. Some of us aren't as fortunate.

SayItAintSo014

31st May 2006, 02:40 AM

Inch is right. You have the gift of good parents. Although I do have a nice relationship with my mom when we get drunk and smoke weed together. Ahh, good times.

I'm also not too sure if making napalm is legal, so i would suggest NOT putting it in your pool, and plus, that's just a waste of a pool.

THErAPIST

10th June 2006, 02:03 AM

well, laws vary from place to plce, but as far as i know theres not a single thing illegal about melting styrafoam with gasoline.. now the illegal part is what you do with the goop. lighting a camp fire with it is one thing while smothering your neighbor's cat with it is something else entirely.

SayItAintSo014

10th June 2006, 05:52 AM

lighting a camp fire with it is one thing while smothering your neighbor's cat with it is something else entirely.

lmfao. That is hilarious.

Armalite

10th June 2006, 01:22 PM

ComfortablyNumb

10th June 2006, 07:21 PM

I dont really know anything about explosives and what-have-you, so I usually stay out of this forum, but isnt napalm, in a very basic sense, just thickened gasoline? I think everyone's well aware that the napalm that the military uses is much different.

SayItAintSo014

10th June 2006, 09:23 PM

It's a homemade style of napalm. It's not the real deal, but it isn't inspired by Fight Club. The whole time they were making Nitroglycerin, which is clearly nothing like napalm, because nitroglycerin is an explosive, and napalm is just a flammable substance. But yes, it was heavily inspired by boredome.

Armalite

11th June 2006, 04:07 PM

Napalm = Napthalene + Palmitic acid

And you clearly missed the point of the Fight Club reference.

ComfortablyNumb

11th June 2006, 08:44 PM

Ah, well I stand corrected. And, to sayitaintso, he was referring to the scene in fight club where they are in the airplane and brad pitt tells edward norton that the best way to make napalm is to mix gasoline and frozen orange juice concentrate.

SayItAintSo014

12th June 2006, 06:26 AM

Oh, I can never really hear him in that part. I'm half deaf and I don't have the ambition to turn up the T.V.

Armalite

13th June 2006, 01:28 AM

Actually, it is not a reference to any particular line in the movie. It is to the bullshit rebellious coolguy anomy symbolized in the movie. Complete and utter bullshit.

SayItAintSo014

14th June 2006, 11:44 PM

Well one of my friends showed me how to do it, and I decided to spread the knowledge.

Mullaly

14th June 2006, 11:57 PM

I was makeing napalm with my friend once and if you put it on a stick and light it it makes a cool torch .... jusst dont swing it around cause it comes of ... and to make a long story short It lit the back of his shirt on fire.

INCH06

16th June 2006, 01:17 AM

Burning plastic does the same ^^...

Milk crates work best (ESP).

CUZNCON

18th September 2006, 01:18 AM

Nox (ADVANCED)

18th September 2006, 04:41 AM

you hit the nail on the head cheap an easy an gives satisfaction to most pyros.
(use 2-Stroke petrol and or desil because of the oil content burn longer and hotter)

Armalite

18th September 2006, 04:04 PM

Well. It's not an explosive either. It's just sticky fire. You get the same effect from adding any syrupy-when-heated substance to the gas. That is common sense. Nothing worth talking about. A good example of real imrovised explosives can be seen in Iraq, everday. The difference is that gas-o-foam is useless, while unused arty rounds wired to a cellphone and buried under a road actually kill people.

Nox (ADVANCED)

19th September 2006, 01:28 AM

you could kill someone with sticky petrol if really wanted to i guess

DoctaD

19th September 2006, 01:45 AM

You could also kill them with regular petrol...

Or a stick.

Or a left hand.

SayItAintSo014

19th September 2006, 05:00 AM

Well, Armalite, I'm sorry that this thread doesn't meet your expectations on "explosives" but I just figured I'd give something for everyone to have a little fun with.

AionSan

19th September 2006, 01:29 PM

A good example of real imrovised explosives can be seen in Iraq, everday.

Wow, you mean TATP ? Now that's hardcore :approve: :twak:

Armalite

19th September 2006, 05:15 PM

And my point is made. I doubt seriously that you ever make any kind of pyro gear. You just love talking about crap culled from the Anarchist's Cookbook. THAT is hardcore. Or something.

Nox (ADVANCED)

20th September 2006, 02:14 AM

woot woot here comes the DILGAF train.* dont try an take it to heart or anything but its only a little bit of fun for kids to make. because here in Aust u have to have some chemical license to buy various fertalisers and and chemicals because they have and can be used in homemade explosives. You dont need a license to purchase petrol or styrofoam now do u?*

*EDIT*

AionSan

20th September 2006, 02:26 AM

And my point is made. I doubt seriously that you ever make any kind of pyro gear. You just love talking about crap culled from the Anarchist's Cookbook. THAT is hardcore. Or something.

If you weren't so full of yourself and came on #totseBB you would have seen my 1 liter bottle full of solid tatp.

I love talking crap and never achieved anything ? Now how come the previously mentionned bottle could blow your balls sky-high ?

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7248/image3ak9.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8169/image4sv7.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5094/image8nm5.jpg

Now that's too bad for you.

Stop playing the bigshot, you're nothing but a kid who think he knows everything just because he made a few things in his life.

INCH06

20th September 2006, 04:03 AM

I own a dish cloth like the one above.

THErAPIST

20th September 2006, 04:46 AM

well id like to mention that if youre making that much AP then youre a damned fool. the stuff can det under its own weight when you have that much and you move it quick enough for it to slide across the paper or whatever surface it's on. granted i guess it's semi safe in a wet state, but only a fool would make that much in a single batch.

furthermore he was stating that gas and styrafoam is in no way anything near todays version of improvised exposive. it's a toy for bored people is all it is. hell it's even a decent glue if you smear it on stuff and the let the gasoline vapors evaporate.

use 2-Stroke petrol and or desil because of the oil content burn longer and hotter
WTF? 2 stroke petrol? you mean mixed petrol? you guys can really buy pre-mixed 2 cycle engine gasoline? lol

:EDIT: AP is about as hard core as taking a shit right after you get out of the shower... it's a cheap unpredictable explosive with a short shelf life. the kind of cheap explosive that everyone who has EVER synthed he's makes just long enough for them to find something more stable, or something that's got a little bit better initiating abillity... possibly both.

Armalite

20th September 2006, 05:26 AM

If you weren't so full of yourself and came on #totseBB you would have seen my 1 liter bottle full of solid tatp.

I love talking crap and never achieved anything ? Now how come the previously mentionned bottle could blow your balls sky-high ?

Now that's too bad for you.

Stop playing the bigshot, you're nothing but a kid who think he knows everything just because he made a few things in his life.

You're still not getting my point. I will retract the comment about never making anything, as you have shown that you have. Although it could be fuckin baking soda in a vase. Also -- while I'm quite sure from you're racist posts elsewhere and you're juvenile writing style and subject matter that you are below the age of legal majority in most countries or else a retard -- I am no kid, and have never claimed to make anything related to pyro or explosives. But that doesn't mean I have never handled it. Ever fired an AT4?

AionSan

20th September 2006, 08:10 AM

Now being racist automatically means you're an idiot ?

Oh yes i get it, you're a liberal... nevermind :banghead:

Armalite

20th September 2006, 10:46 AM

What are you? Ann Coulter?

And yes, being a racist, along with your attention seeking antics and juvenile writing does certainly make you appear to be an idiot.

AionSan

20th September 2006, 11:06 AM

English is not my first language so you can fuck off far and hard about my writing style. Try to write/speak french as good as i do with english, then you'll be allowed to argue.

Armalite

20th September 2006, 12:36 PM

I'm not really talking about grammar and such.

"The stupidity and bullshit about "free speech" of Totse on explosives" thread really shows what I mean. Your little log of the conversation shows remarkable immaturity. You are a shifty litle fucker too. You have continuasly tried to redefine the point of discussion throughout most of your posts here.

Stone

20th September 2006, 12:48 PM

Alright lads, try to keep the thread somewhat on topic and flame in the FL, if it's gonna turn into a flaming match the thread will be locked.

AionSan

20th September 2006, 02:51 PM

well id like to mention that if youre making that much AP then youre a damned fool. the stuff can det under its own weight when you have that much and you move it quick enough for it to slide across the paper or whatever surface it's on. granted i guess it's semi safe in a wet state, but only a fool would make that much in a single batch.

Or someone that knows his turf ? It is quite clear you never made any large amount of ap. To explode under it's own weight it would take around 20x it's original weight, plus given it's directly packed.

Hell, the terrorists in london packed 20 FUCKING KILOGRAMS in backpacks and it didn't went off.

Plus it's not THAT sensitive. I already carried cigarette tubes filled with ap in the front pocket of my shirt, it didn't went off, because i know the sensitivity pretty well. Only a sharp blow would detonate it.

Armalite

20th September 2006, 04:00 PM

I've know THErAPIST on teh interwebs for some time now, and assuming he doesn't know what he's talking about it the height of arrogance.

Stone

20th September 2006, 05:11 PM

THErAPIST has proved himself to all of us who have known him online for years. You (AionSan) have come nowhere close to showing us that you have even a small amount of the same knowledge.

It's going to take more than a picture of a bottle of white stuff to prove that you made it. How about a video of the explosion? Or stills of the manufacturing process?

Can you could show proof of your previous statement about TATP? I will show evidence supporting THErAPIST that I found within 10 seconds from a usually reliable source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide
It is highly susceptible to heat, friction, and shock. For its instability, it has been called the "Mother of Satan".

madscientist

21st September 2006, 12:36 AM

AionSan is gravely wrong.

AionSan

21st September 2006, 12:43 AM

I probably missed something but since when the amount of time you wasted online is demonstrative of your knowledge/experience ?

Stone: Wow, wiki said it's unstable, so it must be!1!!1!!!!... If you actually experienced with that you would know wiki is just bullshit written by a pussy.

And why the fuck should i justify myself to an arrogant kid on the net ? Don't believe me ? Fine, i don't give a shit. The fact that you ask for such proof over the net is still demonstrative of your ignorance.

Pull your head out of your ass once in a while...

madscientist

21st September 2006, 12:50 AM

I have a lot of knowledge pertaining to chemistry and experience making and using explosives - hell, I was the dude that introduced liquid MEKP to the underground world - and I'll join the chorus calling you a fool. I don't doubt you made it, but I doubt your intelligence.

AionSan

21st September 2006, 12:53 AM

So now there is solid MEKP ?

*Falls from his chair in laugher*

madscientist

21st September 2006, 12:54 AM

I've made crystalline MEKP with very low reaction temperatures.

Liquid MEKP hasn't been known forever. Go back more than a couple years and you won't see any mention of it. Guess why...

AionSan

21st September 2006, 12:59 AM

Oh please... Like any chemist in the past didn't know about it...

The world just waited for your great science to be born and tell us all "undergrounders" (lmfao) how to work it out.

Let me do like you: Provide graphic proof of your "crystalline mekp", so i can stop laughing at you.

:haha:

madscientist

21st September 2006, 01:03 AM

I did not ask for proof. I said I believed you.

Industry uses it as a catalyst for resin production. No one was aware of its existence and its liquid/explosive properties. I stumbled upon it during experimentation by accident.

Armalite

21st September 2006, 05:54 AM

Your redefinition of why we trust THErAPIST about this stuff proves my ealier points.

Madscientist is even further knowlegable about such things. And it has nothing to do with the amount of time spent online.

BTW, wiki is written by its users, and the large numbers of writers ensures that most errors are removed. It is subject to vandals and idiots, but is only marginally less accurate than the Encylopaedia Britannica.

Stone

21st September 2006, 06:40 PM

I probably missed something but since when the amount of time you wasted online is demonstrative of your knowledge/experience ?

Yeah, you did miss something. I said that THErAPIST has proved his knowledge to many of us but you havn't. That is why I would believe him over you in an discussion such as this.

Wow, wiki said it's unstable, so it must be!1!!1!!!!... If you actually experienced with that you would know wiki is just bullshit written by a pussy.

I just did a google for AP and that wiki came up. As I said, it is a usually reliable source. And as Armalite said, it is written by the users. It is not written by 'a pussy' and generally isn't bullshit. Seeing as it is a pretty big entry there would have been some users who have quite an amount of knowledge in that area and would have corrected it if wrong. If you say it's wrong then why not grace wiki with your superior knowledge and correct it?

And why the fuck should i justify myself to an arrogant kid on the net ?

Who are you calling a kid? You're the immature little shit who says he likes to deform random peoples faces with exploding cigarettes. Guessing from your level of immaturity and inability to hold a civilised conversation, I'd be willing to bet that a fair share of us are older than you.

Don't believe me ? Fine, i don't give a shit. The fact that you ask for such proof over the net is still demonstrative of your ignorance.

If I told you that I was a master alchemist and I had discovered how to turn coal into gold would you ask for proof? Science would just be as fallible as religion if there was no proof. So the fact that you regard a request for proof as ignorant means that... you're just another k3wl...

madscientist

22nd September 2006, 03:31 AM

Why are we discouraging him from making something that may eliminate his pustulant ass?

THErAPIST

22nd September 2006, 03:41 AM

Yes cock bag, there IS solid MEKP, and while I'm NOT going to pull up the numerous pictures and videos that I've posted online I can assure you that AP is extremely sensative. From the varoius tests I've done, including drop tests, solubality tests, compression tests, friction tests, flame tests, and above all, general usability, reliability, and SAFETY... I've discovered that it's by far NOT the best initiating explosive there is... Not even for the cost.

I really don't care if you believe we're all pussies or not. I also dont give 2 shits and a severed left leg whether you believe that my words are reliable or not. I didn't get to be the mod of this particular forum for no reason at all. I, happen to know Mad pretty well. know his history, his knowledge, and his sarcasm somewhat as well. I can tell you for a fact right now that he's being serious about AP being shit that any extremely seasoned pyros dont go near unless it's for testing.

All that said, if youd like to stay here and discuss explosives or anything else energetic in nature, then please do. But I'll also say this right now... If you cant handle criticism, if you can't keep a level of maturity about your posts that we expect when talking about energetic materials and the like, and if you cant CONVERSE about something without getting your panties in a tizzy, then GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY GOD DAMNED FORUM! I will not tollerate bullshit and screaming back and forth in here. This thread stays open... If it doesn't get any better then I'm locking it.

Furthermore don't start screaming about a nazi mod either, because if you'll go back and read you'll see that I am rather fair and I am ALWAYS open to criticism, and am in no way ashamed to be proven wrong as long as someone can back up their claim.

That is all

:EDIT: I'm nor dissuading him from making anything. I'm stating that it's not the best stuff around and is definately not the most stable stuff around.

Nox (ADVANCED)

23rd September 2006, 06:18 AM

gone for a few days an look what happens geez why is everyone so angry over damn explosives and what not. let aion blow his damned head off. getting drunk and letting of 10gr off AP *cough cough* 3 cop cars ya reckon

Stone

23rd September 2006, 12:18 PM

It's discussion, a heated one at that. It's what forums are for...

Nox (ADVANCED)

24th September 2006, 02:21 AM

nothing wrong with that its quiet funny to read with petty bickering

hatal

25th December 2006, 07:51 PM

My add-on information:

Simple napalm is made by kerosine and aluminiumsoap (Al-OH). Lame shit. Can also be made with other flammable liquids plus some combustable thickener like oils or even thicker stuff!!

Napalm-B. The thing written here, is the cool stuff. Thicker, made on a polymer-base. Less fireball effect, easier to make and longer burning. Real longer.... napalm burning is measured in a few seconds (20-30secs maximum). Napalm-B can burn for 15 minutes. And ofcourse neither of them can be put out by water...

P.S.: I was wondering. What would happen if someone adds potassium-manganate to it? I mean when potassium manganate burns it produces oxygen which makes it burn even hotter.... Right?

:wt:

TWISTED JOKER

18th June 2007, 04:41 AM

Anyone know if this method by Jolly Rodger works? I want an opinion because I have a parent at home(no job) most of the time and want to know if this is credible before I try and make it.

"About the best fire bomb is napalm. It has a thick consistancy,
like jam and is best for use on vehilces or buildings.
Napalms is simply one part gasoline and one part soap. The soap is
either soap flakes or shredded bar soap. Detergents won't do.
The gasoline must be heated in order for the soap to melt. The
usual way is with a double boiler where the top part has at least a
two-quart capicity. The water in the bottom part is brought to a boil
and the double boiler is taken from the stove and carried to where
there is no flame.
Then one part, by volume, of gasoline is put in the top part and
allowed to heat as much as it will and the soap is added and the mess
is stirred until it thickens. A better way to heat gasoline is to fill
a bathtub with water as hot as you can get it. It will hold its heat
longer and permit a much larger container than will the double boiler."

And for anyone interested anarchistcookbookz.com has many guides similiar to Jolly Rodger's cookbook. Although most of them are of a quality similiar to that of the average post on totse.

Stone

18th June 2007, 11:23 AM

I don't know much about chemicals and explosives, but what I do know is that the anarchist cookbook and jolly roger stuff is complete bullshit. I wouldn't trust any of that stuff if I was you.

Nox (ADVANCED)

18th June 2007, 11:53 AM

How do you expect to heat a bathtub full of petrol? Surely not with a fire!

DoctaD

18th June 2007, 12:06 PM

How do you expect to heat a bathtub full of petrol? Surely not with a fire!

No, you fill the bathtub with boiling water and put your container in.

Eulux

18th June 2007, 02:35 PM

This whole thread would have been shredded on pier for stupidity. Gas and styrofoam are not napalm. And even if they were, no one would care or need to use them. This whole thread was clearly inspired by boredom and a recent viewing of Fight Club. What happened to all you oldtimers?
god I wished I was here for this arguement...like the one...blackadder and I had? safehouse/pier if my memory stands....

I don't fuck with any chemistry anymore, cept to make some hmtd, tetryl, and dmt. the last one is a drug so there's no questions...I think I even had a recipe on the old safehouse for hmtd at some point...

and...anything you read in the anarchist's cookbook should be read as fiction.

headcase

18th June 2007, 03:53 PM

Given that it seems this thread is staying here, I would opt for gas + styrofoam rather then gas + soap (in the same way I would opt for rabies over ebola). Basically because it's easier and the results are the same.

That is a good question though. Why would you want to make napalm? It doesn't even have any recreational use.

Nox (ADVANCED)

19th June 2007, 03:13 AM

Hey DD i just read A better way to heat gasoline is to fill
a bathtub an thats where i stopped:pat:.should have read it more, oh well outside i go:joint:

torcher

21st June 2007, 06:30 PM

Hey DD i just read an thats where i stopped:pat:.should have read it more, oh well outside i go:joint:

i wish i hadn't read that much.

Nox (ADVANCED)

22nd June 2007, 01:42 AM

WhAt???? do you mean?

torcher

22nd June 2007, 09:29 PM

i wish i hadnt read the post by Twisted Joker. i could feel myself getting dumber after reading that.

Nox (ADVANCED)

23rd June 2007, 03:30 AM

Ahhh ok. Thought you was having ago at me.

THErAPIST

2nd July 2007, 03:24 AM

A better jellied flame fuel is made from gasoline, raw egg white (yolk completely removed) and salt. it's just as easy to make as gasoline/ styrafoam, and can actually be used in a way that real napalm can be used. it's just as liquidy as real napalm, just as sticky, burns slightly cooler but still hot, burns for a while and can be used in a flame thrower if for some odd reason napalm isnt already inside the tanks...

im sure ive posted its construction somewhere before, ii'll find it later.

btw, any online cook book, manual, multiple online persons written, or online constructed mischief, vandalism, bomb, explosive, survivor thing you may come across is 99% bullshit. furthermore theyrelikely written by morons who are either dreaming, tripping while writing it, trying to get people hurt, trying to get people to waste money or time, or have no real knowledge about anything other than smoking crack out of a modified light bulb.