Napalm Bomb

[SayItAintSo014]

I feel like trying to make a napalm bomb. I know it won't explode or anything. But it may be interesting to put a nice amount of it into some sort of casing with a wick and light it and throw it. I figure I'll try it. If anyone else trys it, please post your results here and we'll compare or something.

[INCH06]

Could you not just fill up a 3ltr glass cider bottle with the blend & then after that tape a sparkler or fuse or traditionally just use doused rag then fling it at the nearest ant mount?

Is that sort of what you mean?

[SayItAintSo014]

Something similar to that. I wasn't thinking that big though. I was thinking about grenade size with a firecracker pack wick. The green wick that is tied to all the individual fire crackers (you know what I mean)

[INCH06]

Yeah I know what you mean dude but wouldn?t the volume of napalm be a bit on the small side if packed into a grenade sized casing. I mean there wouldn?t be many flames. How about a litre sized casing? I like the idea though.

By the way, is manufacturing napalm considered a terrorist shenanigan in the same way explosives & such are?

[THErAPIST]

as far as the terrorist act thing goes, well no not really unless youre throwing it at someone. now as far as the fuse goes... the fuse likely wont catch the napalm on fire unless it's real napalm... and then it might. gellied flame fuels usually take a lot of heat or an open flame to ignite. a simple fuse usually doesnt produce enough heat to ignite a gellied flame fuel unless youre using fast burning mortar visco. the problem with that is that it may burn so quickly that the heat doesnt transfer long enough to ignite it.

[SayItAintSo014]

I see what you're saying TheRapist. I'll try to explore this further.

[madscientist]

What makes really awesome napalm is 50/50 calcium hypochlorite powder from the pool store (pool chlorine) and 99% isopropyl alcohol.

[INCH06]

I see what you're saying TheRapist. I'll try to explore this further.

He's right. A normal visco fuse does NOT cause the napalm to light.

However, today I used wood shavings with the petrol/diesel oil (I had no polystyrene).

The fuse did fuck all. You need a doused rag.

[SayItAintSo014]

Yeah, when I get around to making one, I'll use a rag.

[7.62mm [FullMetalJacket]]

A rag wouldn't help.

You'll need the fuse to lead into something like a chlorate/sugar igniter blend, and probably a bit of NC laqcuer over it.

[AionSan]

Fuse -> Sealed gasoline ice bag in napalm -> RUN! :laugh:

[THErAPIST]

fuse inside a sealed gasoline ice bag?? inside napalm? run?!

what the hell is a sealed gasoline ice bag? a closed plastic ice bag full of gasoline with a fuse running into it? that wouldnt do much anyway... gasoline wont do anything unless theres air in with it, and it would render a fuse useless because the liquid gasoline would soak into the fuse thus making it unable to take flame.

if im reading into this wrong then explain a bit

[7.62mm [FullMetalJacket]]

rAPIST, I've only been registered here a few days and nearly everyone I've seen has been a moron. I wouldn't try to decipher this.

[THErAPIST]

eh i wouldnt agree with the moron part, the majority of the members here have their usefulness in some way or another, but some people here ARE quite idiotic.

[Stone]

']rAPIST, I've only been registered here a few days and nearly everyone I've seen has been a moron. I wouldn't try to decipher this.

Ok, enlighten us morons...

[AionSan]

fuse inside a sealed gasoline ice bag?? inside napalm? run?!

what the hell is a sealed gasoline ice bag? a closed plastic ice bag full of gasoline with a fuse running into it? that wouldnt do much anyway... gasoline wont do anything unless theres air in with it, and it would render a fuse useless because the liquid gasoline would soak into the fuse thus making it unable to take flame.

if im reading into this wrong then explain a bit

I meant a fuse to ignite the vapor of gasoline inside the bag. Like a bag filled half-way and the fuse above it so when it comes in contact with the "flame" of the fuse, it ignites both gasoline and napalm then go boom. ;)

[THErAPIST]

But it wont go boom... It probably wouldnt even burn because the fuel to air ratio inside the bag isn't balanced enough. Assuming that there is enough air inside the bag for the gasoline vapors to burn, the gasoline vapors might burn, but that's improbable because there isn't enough heat generated from the sparks on a fuse to light the fuel air mixture. You'd need a hotter heat source or an open flame. Furthermore the flame would be so short lived that the liklihood of the flame lighting the "napalm" is very low.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

a fresh batch of "sticky petrol" is more volatile to flame than a older batch so theoreticly if a fresh batch is being used it would ignite as soon as a naked flame touches the "napalm".

[7.62mm [FullMetalJacket]]

Ok, enlighten us morons...

Firstly, whilst wikipedia might reference the styrofoam/gasoline mixture 'Napalm B', it also includes benzene, which your 'napalm' doesn't. The benzene is critical for a good, hot fire.

The best 'napalm' mixture, I've found through experimentation, based on effectiveness, ease of production, stability and agglutinance is a mixture of naphtha and palm oil. This is basically an expedient variation on the original mixture, which used 3+ cations such as Al to form salts. However, plain naphtha and palmitic acid (present in the oil) works fine. This was the origin of the name, Naphtha + Palmitic acid.

Good sources of straight-run naptha feedstock are Zippo fluid (more expensive), white spirits and Shellite.

[C'tair]

*injects thread with ThreadRevive syringe*

Hm, Ive also read (just read mind you, never tested), to mix fuel with egg whites, the egg whites being the geling agent. I cant remember how fuel (gas, petrol) will react with the egg white (mixture of proteins and fats), or if it will even burn.
Anyways, also thought of trying that, thought of searching out some oily substance and mixing it with normal fuel. Hm, after doing a bit of research, found some piant thinner which is a benzene and is flamable plus other good stuff. Now oil, thought of even using some used up motor oil and some vegetable oil, but decided to do a bit more research and today I finished downloading the Black Book of Arson (hope it will give me some insight on the subject of making the napalm like substance).

[THErAPIST]

mixing egg whites with gasoline will indeed gel the gasoline. now what you may not have known is that you also have to use a bit of salt to get the egg whites to do the gelling and to thicken the sludge a bit. the egg whites also have to be raw, and there can be NO yolk or for some odd reason the mixture doesn't gel. mind you this sort of geled flame fuel is still a bit runny, so it flows well from things such as flame throwers. it keeps a flame pretty well also, but doesnt burn extremely hot... just hot enough to burn flesh and brush and such. the procedure is outlined in army training manual TM 31-210 improvised munitions.

[Stone]

Any update on your homemade flamethrower THErAPIST?

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

a home mad flamethrower? THErAPIST i belive you will have to tell me about this project in PM if you want or start a thread.

[torcher]

http://forum.rorta.net//showthread.php?t=261

flamethrower thread

[THErAPIST]

(got it) trigger/ handle ....................................~$25 (ebay)
(got it) Tank .................................................~ Free (donated by fire department HAHA)
(got it)The bag .................................................. ...~$30 (wal-mart)
(got it) a spare co2 tank....................................~$15 (paintball fury)
High pressure chemical resistant hosing (pressure washing or hydraulic hose).............. ~$30?
air hose for pilot flame.........................................~$10
(got it)A co2 regulator ..............................................~$25 (firstcallpaintball.com)
(got it)A small blowtorch regulator/ jet tip ....................~Free (lifted it from school. it was going to be thrown out)
A container of mapp gas ..................................~$6
Various metal fittings ......................................~$10?
I've still got to make the barrel .........................~$5
Balls big enough to enable me to strap this to my back and use it :)


Total cost thus far.......................................~$95
estimated final cost....................................~$156... round that to $160... fuckin expensive idea...

And im sure it will get more expensive as i want to do things like make it LOOK good... i dont know yet whether i wanna paint the tank, or add electronic ignition for the pilot light or anything.

This be the updated list though

[himhkd]

sound like you talking about a motive cocktail iv done it many times with beer bottles its really not as graet as you think it will be

[death11284]

Well since it appears you want something that kind of explodes but not really I have a couple tips for you. A visco WILL ignite gasoline, leave the napalm slick with gas and you're good I personally use old (brittle) gallon jugs with the napalm floating in gasoline. Visco will work for it, but I tell you a rag is going to work a helluva lot better. I usually soak the TIP of the rag in gasoline and the bottom (NOT ALL OF IT) so when you throw it, it breaks, and you have a main fire from the napalm along with secondary fire from the gas.

Something that strikes me as a good idea (though I have yet to try it) is a bunch of napalm balls in gasoline, you'd get quiet a few more little fires, and it would burn brighter because most batches of napalm won't ignite all at once.