Israel

[Eulux]

Recently the supreme court of Israel voted against repealing the "temporary" law entitled, "Citizenship and Entry into Israel" that two human rights groups petitioned to have removed. granted it was a 6-5 ruling, the law targets residents of the West Bank and Gaza who marry Israelis from getting Israeli citizenship, residency or entry permits. An amendment last year let Palestinians above a certain age apply for visiting permits, but left the police with the ability to deny it for any reason they deem fit.

does anyone else see this as something...a little odd from people that have been persecuted for centuries?

[DarkT]

Hmmmm, nope, not really :).

Fair? No, not really, but then again, who cares? It's a neccesairy evil :), the arab population is expanding quite fast as it is atm in Israel, it's not somehting which Israel is, ahhhh, "interested" in :), and for obvious reasons too, I'd say :).

Then again, our beloved jewishly jews always kept their blood-lines as "clean" as possible, such a move isn't completly illogical...

[Eulux]

you truely think it's population control?

[ComfortablyNumb]

Bah, Fuck Israel, let them do whatever they want to do, But the US should withdraw its support for Israel. I really couldnt care less if the arab world blows them out of existence, I'd rather have cheaper gas.

[DoctaD]

Israel owns America, it's not like America has the ability to leave them to fight their own battles.

[DarkT]

It's population control + hatred towards the arabic population :).

[madscientist]

Interesting information Eulux... really shows how interested they are in integrating the two populations.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Israel owns America, it's not like America has the ability to leave them to fight their own battles.

How does that work? America is bigger and has more money/power I dont see how they own us...

[Eulux]

Interesting information Eulux... really shows how interested they are in integrating the two populations.
See, now that was the response I was looking for...thank ye.

[DoctaD]

How does that work? America is bigger and has more money/power I dont see how they own us...


I don't actually know this for fact, actually far from it... but as Lionel Hutz said, Hearsay is a type of evidence. ;)

I'm refering to to the Zionist's grasp on American media and government.

EDIT: Typo

[DarkT]

America is simply sympathetic to the jewishly-jewish cause... Teh americanzors left their place, killed teh local population and took over teh place... Sam as the jewish pepole, only they had the decency not to kill the population :), and, well, if we belive the bible(and unimportant things lke archeological evidence) then the land truly does belong to them...

So you can see the similiarities :).

You do have to luv the jewishly-jewish people... They invent such cool shit... That's probably they contorl the world form back-stage, coz' they are teh pwn! Ooops, wait, that's just teh conspiracy theory :).

[Eulux]

on the verge of derailing...anyways.

illuminati > jewish community

[DarkT]

on the verge of derailing...anyways.

illuminati > jewish community

Yes, that's what the jews would like them to belive :).

[Stone]

Israel, believe it or not, is extremely similar to a certain nation which if it had it's way in the 1930's and early 40's would have wiped out the Jewish population on earth. Yeah, you guessed right... Nazi Germany...

Want me to explain more? First let me say that I am not racist and do not hold malice towards every jew. Just the Zionists and the supporters of the current state of Israel. I once new a Jew who fled to Ireland to escape military service. He was a nice guy and did not hate muslims or others. He did not beleive that he was part of a superior race such as the Zionists believe. He came to Ireland because he did not want to have to kill innocent Palistinians on orders from above. I believe that there must be more Jews out there like him, but from what I see, hear and read, there is not many.

So now many people are thinking, how can Israel be similar to Nazi Germany when it's what they despise and keep moaning about how they suffered at the hands of them? Well, they are not the only people to have suffered. The Poles, Russians, any of the Slavic people that lived in Eastern Europe were targeted for destruction. If not complete destruction, some would have been allowed to live as unconditional slaves. Yet, we do not hear them constantly moaning about the horrors their people endured. Quite simply, Israel use the holocaust as a reason for sympathy.

::Israel blows up a bus of Arab schoolchidren:: (20 killed)
::Hamas blows up an Israeli Caf?:: (2 killed, 10 injured)
Israeli people - "Oh dear, first we had to endure the holocaust and now this terrorism"

And the world quickly forgets that Hamas blew up the caf? because 20 of thier kids were blown to pieces by an Israeli missle.

World Opinion - "Ah the poor Jews... Still suffering..."

So you can see how the Jews try to distance themselves from Nazi Germany and people would not even draw comparisons, but if you open your eyes and look at the bigger picture you will see that they are more similar than they would like to admit.


First, let's look at the main difference. Israels government is elected by the people as opposed to a dictator who siezed power. Different yes? Well, in deciding who leads the nation then yes, but challenging them no... Hitler had absolute power in Germany and nobody could challenge him. Even though Israel has an elected government, the leading party or coalition has basically absolute power. Israel has no constitution and therefore no basis for anybody to challenge a decision the government makes. If the Israeli government decides tomorrow to make homosexuality illegal for example, there is no ground to base a challenge on.

Not only that, but isn't a basic right under a democratic government to be tried by a jury of your peers? Seems like a fair way yes? I mean, couldn't a single judge be 'somehow' biased or persuaded towards a judgement? Like they were in Nazi Germany, if somebody powerfull had it in for you, you're fucked. That's a consequence of having one man decide the outcome of a case, like the way the judicial sysem works in Israel...

So there are a few similarities in Nazi Germany's and Israeli domestic policy. But what about foreign policy...

Both are aggressive expansionists. They are hostile to surrounding nations and seek to occupy that land for their own people. Hitler called it Lebensraum or 'Living Space', the Israeli's call it 'Greater Israel'.

According to the book of Genisis: On that day, God made a covenant with Abram, saying: "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites; the Chitties, Perizites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Gigashites and Yevusites." - Genesis 15:18-21

Greater Israel is composed of modern Israel including the Palistinian West Bank and Gaza Strip, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, some of of Saudi Arabia, some Egypt, some Sudan and some Turkey. This is the aim of the Zionist regime. They think that it is their land, that they have unconditional rights of ownership and that all people living there should be 'removed' so the Jewish people can reap the harvest of that land.

According to Mein Kampf: For it is not in colonial acquisitions that we must see the solution of this problem, but exclusively in the acquisition of a territory for settlement, which will enhance the area of the mother country, and hence not only keep the new settlers in the most intimate community with the land of their origin, but secure for the total area those advantages which lie in its unified magnitude. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, page 653.

For Hitler, he believed that the superior race [sic] should annex the land as far east as the Ural mountains because it rightfully belongs to the Nordic-Aryans (The Nordic-Aryans are Hitlers supposed superior race. Not the real Aryans who are Iranian/Persian).

To acheive these goals, Hitler was quite a bit bolder to progress. He invaded countries outright and was relentless in pursuit of his goals but then again, he was in command of the worlds most powerful country at the time (for those that would argue, he took on France and Britain, two powers, and beat them into submission easily. Only bad planning was his downfall in the war with Russia, and the US only came in halfway through the war when most of the German troops were in the East trying to stop the front from turning. He also conquered dozens of other lands. All this he did on his own... Italy was busy getting slaughered by the Ethiopians and Franco was still trying to assert full control in Spain).

But Israel aren't even close to being a World Power. Yeah, they have lots of militry equipment and weapons, and they have lots of nukes, but they would still get slaughtered by other Arab countries. So they need to have a World Power do their dirty work eh? The US are taking care of Iraq for them, and next they will push on to Syria and Iran (Iran/Persia isn't part of Greater Israel but will directly oppose and moves by Israel to establish Greater Isreal). This is an integral part of the current Zionist plan. Get the subject races to fight each other so there is less trouble for Israel to try and assert control later on.

This expansionist drive is called Zionism. Zion is another name for Greater Israel. A core part of Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people are the Chosen People. That the Chosen People are to rule the world and every non-jew is a subject of the people of Zion. Granted it is not the belief of every Jew, but it is the driving force behind Religious Zionism and the Israeli government. Greater Israel would be Jewish-only land, and the capital of the world. Everywhere else is subject to Greater Israel because it says so in Torah (book of Deuteronomy if I remember correctly).

To fully explain this Israeli conspiricy to take over the world and establish a Jewish society where they are the masters and we are the slaves is a whole book in it's own. Do a google search for 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion' to see for yourselves.

Well, I've been typing this for a while now and couldn't be bothered doing a recap.

Any comments?

[Armalite]

Aren't the "Protocols" you speak of a Nazi propaganda publication? It may hav also been a Russian work. Not sure.

I agree with you in principle. But using the word Zionism that much stinks of holocaust-denial. Israel is definately a barbaric nation, but nobody will listen if you cause them to equate opposition to Israel with neo-Nazism, which is exactly what the connotations of "Zionism" do.

[Stone]

It is true that the Nazi's used them as propaganda but as far as I know the actual texts predate the Nazi rise to power by maybe 100 years or so. I remember reading that they did surface in Russia sometime, probably because there were so many Jews living there in the near the end of the Romanov dynasty. Maybe.

I see your point about the use of the word Zionism, but the problem is, what other word to use?

I wouldn't compare Israel to Neo-Nazi's though. For many Neo-Nazi's the ideology (if you can call it that) just an excuse for violence and hate. They have no state and more than likely never will. They are loosely organised groups spread throughout the world who compete with each other, and when you do find a group big enough to make even a small impact on current affairs it cannot do so because the group is infested with crime and drugs.

[Armalite]

America is simply sympathetic to the jewishly-jewish cause... Teh americanzors left their place, killed teh local population and took over teh place... Sam as the jewish pepole, only they had the decency not to kill the population :), and, well, if we belive the bible(and unimportant things lke archeological evidence) then the land truly does belong to them...

So you can see the similiarities :).

You do have to luv the jewishly-jewish people... They invent such cool shit... That's probably they contorl the world form back-stage, coz' they are teh pwn! Ooops, wait, that's just teh conspiracy theory :).



This is a steaming pile of tard poop. Firstly, the Jews were not the original inhabitants of the area, as the Bible and archealogical evidence both agree. Secondly, fanatical claims to God-given rights are bullshit. Thirdly, they are quickly on their way to killing the population. If they only had a plaugue like smallpox to spread amongst the Arabs, it would have happened already. The Israeli officials and respected scholars have often suggested various forms of genocide to solve the "Arab Question". They certainly feel as you do in your view that they have some inalienable right to be the sole inhabitants of the land. nd in this they are wrong as hell.

[Stone]

This is a steaming pile of tard poop. Firstly, the Jews were not the original inhabitants of the area, as the Bible and archealogical evidence both agree.

True. The Israeli's claim that it is their land because God gave it to them about 3,000 (1,000BC) years ago. But the Sumerians had settlements there 3,000 (4,000BC) years before that.

[Unabomber]

America today is under a Zionist controlled government. Even though America is larger and more wealthy, Jews rule it (like much of the world) by proxy.

[Stone]

True. Those fucking neo-evangelicalists like GWB support Zionism.

[odin_dax]

Wait, I'm confused, why is it wrong for a people to own, work, and defend their land from the most barbaric race of men on the planet?

[Stone]

Please rephrase. I'm not sure who you are reffering to.

[Clit Crusader]

There will always be religion and scapegoats no matter what events are occurring in the world... I find it sad that how the Jews have and always will be the scapegoat of the ignorant... it is only normal to be jealous of those better off

[Stone]

Better off? How would they be better off?

And read the whole thread before making comments. The jews aren't being made scapegoats for anything. It's been pointed out that it's not all jews who are the protagonists, but a section of Jewish society called Zionism.

[odin_dax]

And only a section who want Israel gone.

People believing in something isn't a basis for an argument, but the facts, how the facts are used, how they're presented, and how effective they are convincing the public are a basis. The argument over Israel has always been the same, so any statement in regards to Israel's status will always boil down to pro or against; thus, any statement made is relevant if relevant.

You can't separate Zionism from the state of Israel. Zionism IS Israel. And to say Israel is a modern day Nazi nation is absolutely ridiculous.

[Day_N_Night]

Israel, believe it or not, is extremely similar to a certain nation which if it had it's way in the 1930's and early 40's would have wiped out the Jewish population on earth. Yeah, you guessed right... Nazi Germany...

Want me to explain more? First let me say that I am not racist and do not hold malice towards every jew. Just the Zionists and the supporters of the current state of Israel. I once new a Jew who fled to Ireland to escape military service. He was a nice guy and did not hate muslims or others. He did not beleive that he was part of a superior race such as the Zionists believe. He came to Ireland because he did not want to have to kill innocent Palistinians on orders from above. I believe that there must be more Jews out there like him, but from what I see, hear and read, there is not many.

So now many people are thinking, how can Israel be similar to Nazi Germany when it's what they despise and keep moaning about how they suffered at the hands of them? Well, they are not the only people to have suffered. The Poles, Russians, any of the Slavic people that lived in Eastern Europe were targeted for destruction. If not complete destruction, some would have been allowed to live as unconditional slaves. Yet, we do not hear them constantly moaning about the horrors their people endured. Quite simply, Israel use the holocaust as a reason for sympathy.



::Israel blows up a bus of Arab schoolchidren:: (20 killed)
::Hamas blows up an Israeli Caf?:: (2 killed, 10 injured)
Israeli people - "Oh dear, first we had to endure the holocaust and now this terrorism"

And the world quickly forgets that Hamas blew up the caf? because 20 of thier kids were blown to pieces by an Israeli missle.

World Opinion - "Ah the poor Jews... Still suffering..."

So you can see how the Jews try to distance themselves from Nazi Germany and people would not even draw comparisons, but if you open your eyes and look at the bigger picture you will see that they are more similar than they would like to admit.


I agree with all that you said except for the last 10 words or so.

First, let's look at the main difference. Israels government is elected by the people as opposed to a dictator who siezed power. Different yes? Well, in deciding who leads the nation then yes, but challenging them no... Hitler had absolute power in Germany and nobody could challenge him. Even though Israel has an elected government, the leading party or coalition has basically absolute power. Israel has no constitution and therefore no basis for anybody to challenge a decision the government makes. If the Israeli government decides tomorrow to make homosexuality illegal for example, there is no ground to base a challenge on.

First, you forgot something. When Israel was created from the British Mandate Arab Christains and Moslems were the majority, then there were Eastern European Immigrants (Jews) and after that there were Palestinian Jews (non eastern european descent).


How come israel only became a democracy after a jewish majority was firmly estabilished? Did the Palestinians vote to give their land to Eastern European Immigrants?

Now israel has no constitution, but it still functions in a manner similar to a constitution. You see, while in other countries their constitution dictates the rights and so on in countries with no formal constitution like the UK they just refer to previous court decision by judges instead of a constitution. I would imagine they do the same in Israel: refer to previous court decisions by judges in lieu of a constitution.

Not only that, but isn't a basic right under a democratic government to be tried by a jury of your peers? Seems like a fair way yes? I mean, couldn't a single judge be 'somehow' biased or persuaded towards a judgement? Like they were in Nazi Germany, if somebody powerfull had it in for you, you're fucked. That's a consequence of having one man decide the outcome of a case, like the way the judicial sysem works in Israel...


I had no idea it was like that there, that's totally unfair. Who appoints the judges?

[/QUOTE] So there are a few similarities in Nazi Germany's and Israeli domestic policy. But what about foreign policy...

Both are aggressive expansionists. They are hostile to surrounding nations and seek to occupy that land for their own people. Hitler called it Lebensraum or 'Living Space', the Israeli's call it 'Greater Israel'.[/QUOTE]


You have a point to some extent. Israel had the Sinai Peninsual under its control after defeating Egypt. But instead Israel relequinshed it back to Egypt. Why would they do that if they are suppposedly agressive expasionists?

"Greater Israel" and "Liebensraum" both have similarities, the germans beleiving they are entitled to land that lies outside their borders, the jews beleiving that huge swaths of the middle east are entitled to them from a promise by god. The only different here is that creating "Greater Israel" is not a policy of the Israeli government unlike the Nazi one.

The only people in Israel who beleive in this are either Ultra Nationalists or Jewish Fundamentalists. Both make up a very small percentile of the total population.


According to the book of Genisis: On that day, God made a covenant with Abram, saying: "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites; the Chitties, Perizites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Gigashites and Yevusites." - Genesis 15:18-21

Greater Israel is composed of modern Israel including the Palistinian West Bank and Gaza Strip, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, some of of Saudi Arabia, some Egypt, some Sudan and some Turkey. This is the aim of the Zionist regime. They think that it is their land, that they have unconditional rights of ownership and that all people living there should be 'removed' so the Jewish people can reap the harvest of that land.

According to Mein Kampf: For it is not in colonial acquisitions that we must see the solution of this problem, but exclusively in the acquisition of a territory for settlement, which will enhance the area of the mother country, and hence not only keep the new settlers in the most intimate community with the land of their origin, but secure for the total area those advantages which lie in its unified magnitude. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, page 653.

For Hitler, he believed that the superior race [sic] should annex the land as far east as the Ural mountains because it rightfully belongs to the Nordic-Aryans (The Nordic-Aryans are Hitlers supposed superior race. Not the real Aryans who are Iranian/Persian).

Again, you are generalizing significantly. The only ones who subscribe to greater israel are a fundamentalistic minority who in no way influence government policy.


To acheive these goals, Hitler was quite a bit bolder to progress. He invaded countries outright and was relentless in pursuit of his goals but then again, he was in command of the worlds most powerful country at the time (for those that would argue, he took on France and Britain, two powers, and beat them into submission easily. Only bad planning was his downfall in the war with Russia, and the US only came in halfway through the war when most of the German troops were in the East trying to stop the front from turning. He also conquered dozens of other lands. All this he did on his own... Italy was busy getting slaughered by the Ethiopians and Franco was still trying to assert full control in Spain).

Again Israel has not demonstrated the same expansionists goals as Nazi German did but have shown some expansionists ambitions. Most notably when almost a million Palestinians were driven from their homes to Jordan and some other locations. Most of this land was alloted to Muslim and Christian arabs but instead Israel settled it with Jews and refused to give the land back to the refugees.

But Israel aren't even close to being a World Power. Yeah, they have lots of militry equipment and weapons, and they have lots of nukes, but they would still get slaughtered by other Arab countries. So they need to have a World Power do their dirty work eh? The US are taking care of Iraq for them, and next they will push on to Syria and Iran (Iran/Persia isn't part of Greater Israel but will directly oppose and moves by Israel to establish Greater Isreal). This is an integral part of the current Zionist plan. Get the subject races to fight each other so there is less trouble for Israel to try and assert control later on.


I think you're on to something but at the same time your getting a bit carried away. It's true that Israel receives a bizzare amount of allegience from the United States and jews and israelies have much control over American Teleivision and Media. Also their politicans excercise a strong control over american ones.

I remember hearing about Geroge Bush giving a speech, then the Israeli Prime Minister gave a phone call and when he found out he demanded he speak to bush speech or no speech. Bush interupted a speech infront of thousands of people just to speak to the prime minister of a small little country. This is indeed very bizare how Jews and Israelies have so much influence over American Society and Government. But i think at the same time you're a bit carried away here with this conspiracy shit.

[Mr.A]

What I find fascinating about Israel is they worship a man who told them one thing and they do the opposite. It's almost as though Israel is the most publicized hypocrisy on the planet. Not to down them though, I've trained with a man who is I still think fighting for them. He was extremely extreme, very hardcore about body conditioning and could swim like no other....we all swore he had a propeller up his ass.

[odin_dax]

Israel can't be compared with Nazi Germany. Their history and motives are totally different, as are/were their political positions during their respective current histories.

[Th0r]

Israel can't be compared with Nazi Germany. Their history and motives are totally different, as are/were their political positions during their respective current histories.

It can be compared; to an extent, and I agree with the latter part of what you're saying.

[thief]

trained with a man who is I still think fighting for them. .

As in you served or you just trained with this guy down at the gym?

[Mr.A]

As in you served or you just trained with this guy down at the gym?

I'll go with the latter.

[Day_N_Night]

What I find fascinating about Israel is they worship a man who told them one thing and they do the opposite. It's almost as though Israel is the most publicized hypocrisy on the planet. Not to down them though, I've trained with a man who is I still think fighting for them. He was extremely extreme, very hardcore about body conditioning and could swim like no other....we all swore he had a propeller up his ass.

Was this the man you're talking about?


http://www.fasthack.com/images/weblog/2008/05/zohan.jpg

[Mr.A]

Hahaha, no but that was an awfully creative assumption. No this man was was no God, at least I don't think he was. He wasn't the kindest, that's for sure.

[Tarnak]

Israel may have its faults BUT

1- It is the only place in the world where palestinians can become citizens at ALL - none of the neighboring arab countries will take them in

2- It is not an enemy of the united states

3- It is 100 times freer than all of its neighbors


I really dont care how many arabs the jews kill, or how much the arabs hate the jews. The arabs are our enemies. They have shown to us that they cannot coexist with the western way of life peacefully, which is why we are at war with them.

Do you really think supporting the arabs is going to stop them from hating us? There is no compromise with these people. Every time Israel has offered them what they asked for (Camp David, Oslo Accords, etc. etc.) they have turned it down because they will settle for nothing less than the complete destruction of Israel, Europe, and America.

Don't believe me?

Madrid
London
Rotterdam
September 11th
Beirut
USS Cole
etc. etc.

These are our enemies. Israel is their enemy.


The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[odin_dax]

Well, even if Israel wasn't the enemy of our enemy, they were always our friend. All the other countries that support them know the US will take all the political heat. Israel is quite safe. Let's not forget that the U.N. created them, including Russia.

However, Israel is going beyond what has been permitted by the U.N. charter. That is no way gives permission for terrorism and murder by Arab extremists.

If we remember the history of the region, there was nothing there before Israel formed! Most of the land came from Jordan, who is a friend of Israel (diplomatically, maybe not publicly because of its citizens). Who lived in the region before the Jews? Roaming sheep herders, no one else.

It was Israel that built that land up and developed it. They keep it. If the Palestinians got recognized, then what? Would they still not terrorize Israel? Of course they would.

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For the other point, Arabs and Muslims are not our enemy. Yes, people from those backgrounds are the cause for most terrorist actions, conflicts and oppression/genocide around the world currently, but the enemy of the US, and all free people really, are Islamic extremists. I know many Arabs, Turks and Iranians that are not the enemy. I know many Muslims too. I love my friends, and I know they don't condone terrorist action any more than we Westerners do.

I've been to Turkey, Morocco, Egypt, Montenegro and Serbia. Everywhere I've gone, I've been welcomed with open arms (though I got a lot of dirty looks in Serbia, I was always treated politely in conversation and by the police).

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Let's not lose perspective.

[bankraped]

The Arabs are our enemies. They have shown to us that they cannot coexist with the western way of life peacefully, which is why we are at war with them.


You are a troll. Or a retard.
There is no U.S. war is the middle east. If I recall correctly, No official declaration of war was made by your congress upon any of the Arabic nations.
Secondly, Saudi Arabia, an Arabic nation, is one of the U.S's best friends in the Middle East, after Israel.
The organizations who are at war with the U.S are not exclusively Arabic. Neither are they completely Muslim. Indeed, the average suicide bomber believes he is doing gods work, but the reason his leaders sent him to bomb the shit out of one of your embassies is purely political.
The Iranians, who are your enemies(apparently) are Persians, not Arabs. They are in fact more free then the Saudis. The whole Burkah thing is enforced en masse in Saudi Arabia, whereas in Iran women are only limited to the hajib . Indeed, the democracy there may only sparse but there is still some shred of democracy in Iran (Despite the whole election fiasco) whereas in Saudi Arabia, there's a Sultanate.

[Tarnak]

You are a troll. Or a retard.
There is no U.S. war is the middle east. If I recall correctly, No official declaration of war was made by your congress upon any of the Arabic nations.
Secondly, Saudi Arabia, an Arabic nation, is one of the U.S's best friends in the Middle East, after Israel.
The organizations who are at war with the U.S are not exclusively Arabic. Neither are they completely Muslim. Indeed, the average suicide bomber believes he is doing gods work, but the reason his leaders sent him to bomb the shit out of one of your embassies is purely political.
The Iranians, who are your enemies(apparently) are Persians, not Arabs. They are in fact more free then the Saudis. The whole Burkah thing is enforced en masse in Saudi Arabia, whereas in Iran women are only limited to the hajib . Indeed, the democracy there may only sparse but there is still some shred of democracy in Iran (Despite the whole election fiasco) whereas in Saudi Arabia, there's a Sultanate.

Congress didn't declare war... semantics. We are at war.

As I recall, the 911 hijackers were all Saudi. Osama Bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia. It's good that we have a massively wealthy prince in power there who is more interested in maintaining the status quo (and his vast wealth) than fucking with the U.S., but many of the residents of Saudi Arabia should rightfully be considered our enemies.

I don't know how you can reasonably argue that Iran is free, because it simply isn't.

We are not just at war with Al Qaeda or Hamas or these terrorist organizations... we are at war with fanatacism. It's not just some old bearded guys planning on bombing a bridge - look at the violence worldwide from muslim extremists. How many of the armed conflicts continuing today involve Islam?

- The Somali Civil War
- Afghanistan and Iraq
- War in North-West Pakistan
- Phillipines Islamic Insurgency
- Turkey-Kurdistan workers party conflict
- Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir
- Conflict in the Niger Delta
- Sa'Dah Insurgency
- Fourth Chad Civil War
- North Caucuses insurgency




Bankraped, you're one of those bleeding hearts who thinks we can talk to them or something. These people are fanatics and extremists and aren't inclined to diplomacy. It is my expert opinion that a large number of them would be greatly improved by death.

[Tricho]

I wouldn't compare Israel to Neo-Nazi's though. For many Neo-Nazi's the ideology (if you can call it that) just an excuse for violence and hate. They have no state and more than likely never will. They are loosely organised groups spread throughout the world who compete with each other, and when you do find a group big enough to make even a small impact on current affairs it cannot do so because the group is infested with crime and drugs.


Unfortunately what you say is true. To many of my National Socialist brothers in arms are fucking dickheads who sit around doing meth and saluting posters of dead guys instead of being out in the streets making a difference and waking other aryan brothers up to the current race war that is happening. Never once in the worlds history has the white race been under such attack by others. Including Jews, communists and blacks and all these people put a guilt complex into other whites and make them think and feel that its wrong to be a National Socialist and fight for your race; while they themselves the niggers and the jews go behind our backs and stick together while making whites feel bad. Most spics, niggers and jews are in fact very hateful of whites. They also instill such images into retarded National Socialists and make them see being a true National Socialist like the Character from American History X or the guys from Romper Stomper.

I personally dislike Israel as a nation a lot and I would love it if America stopped supporting them and let Iran and the other Nations do their thing against Israel. I hate that nation with a passion unexplainable in this forum alone. I stand by National Socialist ideals today cause they are very much in accordance with Natural law in today's world. The Jews like you said use the sympathy from their destruction which unfortunately did not happen and they use other nations to do their bidding. Which is a typical Jew move. A lot of people think jews are good people; though every person can say oh I know one Jew hes okay but the rest are scum. That is exactly what they want you to think. I personally hope we in America just say fuck you Israel and let them get massacred.

[odin_dax]

Unfortunately what you say is true. To many of my National Socialist brothers in arms are fucking dickheads who sit around doing meth and saluting posters of dead guys instead of being out in the streets making a difference and waking other aryan brothers up to the current race war that is happening. Never once in the worlds history has the white race been under such attack by others. Including Jews, communists and blacks and all these people put a guilt complex into other whites and make them think and feel that its wrong to be a National Socialist and fight for your race; while they themselves the niggers and the jews go behind our backs and stick together while making whites feel bad. Most spics, niggers and jews are in fact very hateful of whites. They also instill such images into retarded National Socialists and make them see being a true National Socialist like the Character from American History X or the guys from Romper Stomper.

I personally dislike Israel as a nation a lot and I would love it if America stopped supporting them and let Iran and the other Nations do their thing against Israel. I hate that nation with a passion unexplainable in this forum alone. I stand by National Socialist ideals today cause they are very much in accordance with Natural law in today's world. The Jews like you said use the sympathy from their destruction which unfortunately did not happen and they use other nations to do their bidding. Which is a typical Jew move. A lot of people think jews are good people; though every person can say oh I know one Jew hes okay but the rest are scum. That is exactly what they want you to think. I personally hope we in America just say fuck you Israel and let them get massacred.

The black/Jew alliance to dominate the white man? You should join the ranks of David Icke!

Why do you dislike Israel? The UN created that nation in an area only full of nomads. Israelis built up and cultivated that land. You might say, we stole it for the Jews, but didn't the Jews have it first anyway? The Jews don't use sympathy because after the destruction of the Second Temple, the Jews were already in many parts of the Roman Empire. The Jews became one of the first, if not the first, religious followers to take their religion mobile. Meaning, they didn't need a central place of worship. There is no sympathy. They worked to survive on their opportunities. They didn't wallow in self-pity, and they still don't today. They have all the reason to cry with their arms up, be racist and demand reparations, but they don't.
What's your excuse for being such a racist, ignorant, jackass?

By the way, their destruction DID happen. I don't know how you can even say that with a straight face or believe it. There's so much evidence of their destruction in pre-Christian history and WW2.

If you're worried about Jews bidding and buying, you're worry is misplaced. Worry about the Chinese.

I know a few Jews and they're all great people. As for you, you're fucking idiot. The only one I hope gets massacred is you. In fact, I hope you get your dick cut off by a Jew and your ass raped by a black guy, then taken care of. You're a waste of space on this forum and on this planet. You slow down the progress of the human race. You've been lucky that there are many people who don't believe in survival of the fittest, because you're ignorant, red-neck ass would be dead in the real world, which I doubt you've ever experienced.

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He hates it because he's a fool who hates Jews because they're Jews.

I hate pussy yuppy jew kids whos parents make mad bank and send them to a cush private college and a cush life.

I like Israel because they took land that was nothing but sentiment for them and turned it in to a beautiful, prosperous, free democracy surrounded by people who would like nothing more than to see them dead.

Why are you so proud of being white and "national socialist"? What does Europe have that you want to emulate?

Jews and America are tight. Even those yuppie jews make our country that much stronger.