fun chemicals [Archive]

CUZNCON

21st September 2006, 02:02 AM

Lets talk about chems that are just plain fun to play with. Swim once took a jar of pool cleaner into a theater. Once the movie started he opened the jar and placed a sponge in the jar, just floating on the liquid pool cleaner. On top of that he placed some shredded aluminum foil. He then calmly strolled out leaving the jar on the floor. In the time it took to smoke a single cig, the theater all of a sudden "let out" as everyone watching that movie left in quite a hurry. It seems when the aluminum meets the cleaner a reaction happens. The theater filled with a rather nasty gas. Damn near caused riot! :sasmokin:

THErAPIST

22nd September 2006, 03:18 AM

sadly that makes SWIM a terrorist and a shit face. too bad that's NOT fun. besides, what's in this pool cleaner? quite possibly SWIM made something which could have caused serious lasting damage to a large number of people.

Sorrowstfu

23rd September 2006, 06:45 AM

CUZNCON

23rd September 2006, 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=Sorrowstfu]:bsflag: :fuckyou: ass hole![/QUOTE

Who the hell are you to call me an asshole? I didn't do it, I just posted it. So FUCK YOU YOU IMATURE LITTLE BITCH. :wt:

Sorrowstfu

23rd September 2006, 11:28 PM

did i say you did it? No.

7.62mm [FullMetalJacket]

24th September 2006, 06:27 AM

Lies!

Stupid fucking moron.

Heavy_'TalMeMan

24th September 2006, 01:11 PM

:sigh1:
CUZNCON, Sorrowstfu, 7.62mm, if you guys got nothin' better to say i recommend you guys shut up.
...
But anyway, what gas is created by the reaction? Do you know whats in the pool cleaner, CUZNCON?

CUZNCON

24th September 2006, 08:02 PM

I realy have no idea what gas this creates. But I do know its quite bad stuff. And if you take the top off the pool cleaner for a few days beforehand, it reacts even faster. What kind of dipshit are you fullmetaljacket?

Stone

24th September 2006, 10:31 PM

Anymore flaming and this thread is being locked.

torcher

25th September 2006, 05:13 AM

And if you take the top off the pool cleaner for a few days beforehand, it reacts even faster.

thats probably because some of the water evaporated out of the jug and concentrated it a little. kinda like reducing/concentrating something on your stove, except at a much slower rate.

7.62mm [FullMetalJacket]

25th September 2006, 04:39 PM

Incidentally, I'm the sort of dipshit who knows what he's talking about. (NB: That's more then you can say)

AionSan

27th September 2006, 08:25 PM

POOL CLEANER ? That's chlorine, dumbass.

Chlorine + Aluminum = Aluminum chloride gas

When aluminum chloride gas is mixed with air (aka container left open), it becomes terrifically acidic and forms a sticky "goo" on stuff. Goo capable of eating stainless steel away.

THErAPIST

28th September 2006, 12:29 AM

POOL CLEANER ? That's chlorine, dumbass.

Chlorine + Aluminum = Aluminum chloride gas

Cl+Al--> AlCl3 = Aluminum trichloride AKA Aluminum chloride which is a solid at room temperature

You sure pool cleaner is always chlorine? I mean it's not like it could be any one of the other 500 things on the shelf at lowes, or home depot, or wal-mart, or meijer that says "pool cleaner" that doesn't have chlorine in it right? Ass thats why we asked.

HERE (http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/AL/aluminium_chloride_anhydrous.html) is the MSDS for aluminum chloride.

Funny that it says that Aluminum chloride is a yellow to grey, or white solid and not a gas... It isnt a gas till it's heated to 190?C, which is when it goes straight from a solid to a gas. It's already acidic before it ever touches air... The bad shit that you would breathe in is HCL fumes. But, yeah, I guess Breathing in hydeochloric acid vapors would make me clear out of a closed room pretty quickly.

As for the "goo", possibly some moisture left over from the pool cleaner? possibly hygroscopic?

:EDIT: had to remove guess it dun work here eh? heh

7.62mm [FullMetalJacket]

28th September 2006, 02:16 AM

HCl isn't pool cleaner, it's a pH adjuster.

'Pool cleaner' as chlorine is usualy Calcium hypochlorite, Ca(ClO)2.

And I don't think it would react with aluminium.

But hydrated Aluminium chloride is rather corrosive, the most common Lewis acid, and anhydrous will explode on contact with water. Furhtermore, it won't 'eat right through', it will just attack it a little.

So figure out your own plan from there. Preferably one that isn't stupid, if that isn't too much to ask.

CUZNCON

29th September 2006, 01:46 AM

Wow!! people actually got pissed off. That was not the intent of this thread. I was just looking for different ways to use every day chems. I know other people like to play with household cleaners and such as much as i do. What I wanted was your fave things to do. Instead everybody focused on ONE thing ONE dumbass did. :irked:

THErAPIST

29th September 2006, 04:08 AM

It was assumed that the whole point of this thread was about destructive type stuff. next time a bit of an explanation of exactly what youre looking for may be helpful :)

Anyway, i use muriatic acid and aluminum foil to make hydrogen for my spud cannon. other than that I dont really mess with chems too much anymore. no real time for it

Nox (ADVANCED)

29th September 2006, 07:01 AM

Anyway, i use muriatic acid and aluminum foil to make hydrogen for my spud cannon.

Nice idea thanks for that boy.

THErAPIST

30th September 2006, 05:00 AM

yup. about 250ml muriatic inside a glass bottle with a 1 foot square sheet of aluminum foil twisted into a thin "stick". drop the aliminum foil into the jar after the muriatic has been put in and put the stopper with hose attached into the mouth of the bottle. the hose goes to a piece of glass tubing which is extending through a rubber stopper inside a flask full of water. the glass tube goes to the bottom of the flask so that any hydrogen produced bubbles through the water and acid vapors are removed. the flask has a barbed nipple in the side at the top which another piece of hose is hooked to. on the end of this hose is a party balloon.

the cannon is loaded and the end cap is removed. when the balloon fills up with hydrogen so it's slightly bigger than a soft ball then the balloon is pulled from the hose. the cannon is held barrel up and the hydrogen is released into the combustion chamber from below. cap is screwed on, ear plugs are put in, "click".

not really all that loud unless im shooting somehting that's really light weight and has really good contact with the barrel wall, which is when it makes a high pitch bang that makes the ears ring. large objects get a satisfying thud and a small recoil.

Nox (ADVANCED)

30th September 2006, 06:24 AM

project in the making here may seem stupid but i have the ideal location to use all sizes of orange gun to golfball cannons there is 2 trees at my place that look down into the main street and my house is in a battle-axe block (google it) so will let you know how it goes. might draw up a little arial 2d diagram of the location of my house.

**EDIT**
My Local (http://tinyurl.com/olsnf)

crzydan81

21st December 2006, 05:17 AM

What SWIM did was take about 20 plastic waterbottles and put in some toilet bowl cleaner(hydrochloric acid) and dropped in some aluminum foil. Then left it at ideal spots in K-Mart. Very funny cause of where SWIM lives drive byes are a daily thing so when they heard the bang it made they though they were gettign shot at so they all dropped. Then they got caught by the gas and everyone was coughing and gagging.

Seol

22nd December 2006, 12:21 AM

Aluminum chloride isn't really that dangerous to breath in - infact I don't know of any hazards unless it goes in your eyes or skin in which it could burn.

Plus I'm sure that the public chlorine is heavily diluted because of the risks of it being used as a chemical agent.

However if you disturbed a movie I was watching I would kick your ass lol.

Nox (ADVANCED)

22nd December 2006, 06:49 AM

However if you disturbed a movie I was watching I would kick your ass lol.
:Thinkingo
Deffinatly would be my reaction aswell

death11284

19th September 2007, 05:39 AM

Anyway, i use muriatic acid and aluminum foil to make hydrogen for my spud cannon. other than that I dont really mess with chems too much anymore. no real time for it

Don't mean to be a dick but what about the deadly chlorine gas? That seems like a little bit of a drawback..

headcase

19th September 2007, 04:29 PM

I haven't done the chemistry, but surely HCl and Al will give you AlCl and H2?

death11284

22nd September 2007, 10:46 PM

Ah, yeah you're probably right, either way it sucks to breathe in. I was thinking more of when you drop chlorine tablets in..a pressurized bottle of chlorine gas blowing up is NOT a fun thing.

sabotage

26th September 2007, 05:49 AM

Potassium pomegranate + glycerin = fire

Saw it on survivor man. Les combined some medication to create combustion.

He does it on the 2:22 mark

h**p://youtube.com/watch?v=AKkSnwmcfJY&mode=related&search=

torcher

27th September 2007, 03:03 PM

i read sabotage's post above me and thought to myself, "what the fuck is a potassium pomegranate?" i thought he was talking about the delicious fruit/hangover remedy.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Pomegranate03_edit.jpg/250px-Pomegranate03_edit.jpg

but no, it was actually supposed to be potassium Permanganate.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Potassium-permanganate-sample.jpg/150px-Potassium-permanganate-sample.jpg

pretty sweet video though.

headcase

27th September 2007, 04:14 PM

Pft. The inherent vice of spellcheckers.

Nox (ADVANCED)

28th September 2007, 04:31 AM

Are they truly a good hangover cure? Next door neighbor has a tree/bush that grows them.

torcher

28th September 2007, 01:03 PM

they've always worked for me. i drink the juice though.

death11284

29th September 2007, 07:09 AM

Ah, the burning part of that gas isn't from the chemical reaction. When the aluminum reacts it produces a shitload of heat which vaporizes alot of HCl and that's not fun to breathe in.

Nox (ADVANCED)

29th September 2007, 01:11 PM

Gonna try that when they come back in to season.

sabotage

7th October 2007, 03:19 AM

chlorine + ethanol(rubbing alcohol) + container = pressure bomb
as does:
-comet dishwasher soap and clorox bleach
-hydrogen peroxide and manganese dioxide(h++p://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/162279.html)

You can buy some fun chems on h++ps://unitednuclear.com

Nox (ADVANCED)

8th October 2007, 02:55 AM

(h++p://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/162279.html)

Quoting &TOTSE??? Bad move son.

sabotage

8th October 2007, 06:18 PM

totse has some useful info, you just have to dig for it. Don't knock it b/c of trolls.

REL0AD

8th October 2007, 07:56 PM

Are they truly a good hangover cure?

Just drink more alcohol...

Nox (ADVANCED)

9th October 2007, 12:13 AM

I d/c about the trolls. Its just pretty much shit, Not even a glimmer of gold is worth going through all of that shit.

Yer i find i drink to much in the mornings and pass out around 1-2pm.

sabotage

10th October 2007, 01:09 AM

A couple of smoke bomb recipes -
1. I know you all know it but I'll put it any way h**p://unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm
2. h**p://youtube.com/watch?v=IkoFdRgKqFs
3. Just learned about this one - h**p://youtube.com/watch?v=CQjSZ88n1u0

death11284

12th October 2007, 12:44 AM

Yeah chlorine being the powerful oxidizer that it is will produce a pressure bomb with many..many..things just keep it away from ammonia

REL0AD

12th October 2007, 05:20 AM

I d/c about the trolls. Its just pretty much shit, Not even a glimmer of gold is worth going through all of that shit.

Yer i find i drink to much in the mornings and pass out around 1-2pm.

I don't get full sleep because of drink, sounds strange this but drink knocks me out, then i wake up constantly with 'night tremors'. I normaly start at half eightish steadily then end up chromatosed by afternoon. it's all good.

Bakc on topic:

Ecstasy and alcohol... great combination. Very fun chemicals :)

Nox (ADVANCED)

12th October 2007, 06:47 AM

Never tried X yet.

malefic internicine

9th November 2007, 11:28 PM

i found this concerning the aluminum in the pool cleaner

Upon chemically reacting with an active metal, acids will evolve hydrogen gas (H2). The key word, of course, is active. Some metals, like gold, silver or platnium, are rather unreactive and it takes rather extreme conditions to get these "unreactive" metals to react. Not so with the metals in this property. The include the alkali metals (Group I, Li to Rb), the alkaline earth metals (Group II, Be to Ra), as well as zinc and aluminum. Just bring the acid and the metal together at anything close to room temperature and you get a reaction

REL0AD

10th November 2007, 12:27 AM

Not to sure about all that above but when I did smack we had to heat the foil to get rid of the aluminium poision before we followed the beatle. Don't know if that helps.

MarcDEpyro

8th January 2008, 08:00 PM

Ok, the toilet bowl cleaner will moste likely contain 'Caustic soda'.. If mixed with water and aluminium foil (key ingredient), it reacts and creates hydrogen gas (highly flameabale and toxic!).
So the bottles with toilet cleaner and aluminium foil in a store is more of a terrorist attack then a harmless prank.
Never do this!!

Heavy_'TalMeMan

13th January 2008, 07:47 AM

Not to sure about all that above but when I did smack we had to heat the foil to get rid of the aluminium poision before we followed the beatle. Don't know if that helps.
That's how us fellas in south east asia get down with meth and the like. A bit hard to get any paraphernalia, so we improvise the hell out of everything.

flashmasterfong

9th February 2008, 03:14 AM

Acetone is fun :D

Heavy_'TalMeMan

12th February 2008, 03:17 PM

Acetone is fun :D
So is your mom; but I ain't braggin about it.
:bigeyes:

Th0r

12th February 2008, 06:56 PM

Acetone is fun :D

Where I am it's hard to get...

The govt have been really cracking down on it since 7/7, and the attempted bombings of 2006 involving Trans-Atlantic flights...

Micro

7th June 2008, 11:45 PM

Chlorine gas was used in WW1 by the germans to own british and french troops.
The brits of course shelled back later on. They made these sick mortars where you could stick entire gas sylinders inside.

davey_crockshit

8th June 2008, 02:54 AM

would that be one of these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livens_Projector

Th0r

8th June 2008, 10:12 AM

World War One, is often referred to as the 'Gas Revolution', as it was the first war in history where Gas had been used against the enemy.

There is a Wilfred Owen Poem about Patriotism and Gas, which describes the death of a fellow soldier. It was called 'Dulce et Decorum Est (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulce_et_Decorum_Est)', Latin for It is sweet and fitting to die for one's country. There's a link to the Wikipedia page...

When I was in France I went to several of the battlefields where they released Gas, in the replanted forests, you can still see where the trenches were. I'll scan some photos in.

The major problem with Gas is it can also hit the people who released it. If the wind changes direction...

UKSWAT

8th June 2008, 12:07 PM

What's so good about a weapon that can kill you if the breeze happens to be travelling in your direction?

My favourite is magnalium. It's expensive of course, but it has so many spectacular uses within the pyro industry, discovered and undiscovered. For example, in some circumstances when used as an additive in rocket fuels it crackles and turns the jets white, other cases where I use it is for flash compositions where much is needed for a shell (as it uses cheaper K.nitrate rather than K.perchlorate).

It makes great stars too.

Th0r

8th June 2008, 01:14 PM

http://www.armageddononline.org/image/poisongas.jpg

Note the shear volume of Gas being emitted, and the proximity of the Gas to the troops using it's trench. Also note that any change of direction in terms of wind will blow a percentage of it back...