Electronic Quiz's:

[Greenflame]

This is Educational, and useful.

1.How many 0.55V Solar Cells would it take to Produce 49KWH a Day
, for every day of the month? Use a Calculator if you're Brain cant
Handle it.If you figure this out, then you know what you need to know
in order to have free power, and get Paid by the Power Company for
the Excess if you feed it back into the Grid.

You can literally pay rent with the profit you make off of solar energy.
You can also buy that sports car you always wanted.Making and Wiring
a Solar Panel is easy! I made one that produces 8 Volts with about $50
worth of components from Radio Shack.

[THErAPIST]

yes, but how much would you have to spend to make enough solar pannels to power your house? how much would the batteries cost that you would be charging during the daytime so that you could still use your electronics at night? what are you going to do if your solar pannels are too close to a lightning strike and they get fried?

I'd love to use solar power for my house, but is it really worth it?
next point... i dont know how to make a solar pannel :lol:

[Greenflame]

yes, but how much would you have to spend to make enough solar pannels to power your house? how much would the batteries cost that you would be charging during the daytime so that you could still use your electronics at night? what are you going to do if your solar pannels are too close to a lightning strike and they get fried?

I'd love to use solar power for my house, but is it really worth it?
next point... i dont know how to make a solar pannel :lol:

0.55v Solar Cells are about $2 US, and it's long term results that matter.If you use 49KWH which is 49 thousand Kilowatts at 1KW a
Hour, each day, you would spend about $5 a Day if exclusivly hooked to the Power Grid.

You can use Deep Cycle Batterys or a simple circuit to switch back to the Grid.The batterys charge off the excess, like with you're cars system.

Lightning strikes? that problem was solved ages ago.Ever seen
Lightning Rods or Ground wires on Houses? it's basic circuitry that
redirect the Lightning energy back to the earth.Plus thats what
Insulators are for, you dont allow any energy to reach you're chips
by providing heavy resistance one way and having next to no
resistance the other.


This is literally basic electrical stuff on the installer/builder level.It's
pretty easy to understand.

[THErAPIST]

ah, dun worry. i know it's all basic. i plan on going to a tech school in a couple months to be an electrician.

I was just being a pain in the ass. lightening rods... theyre nice and all but they arent fool proof. electricity has a bad habbit of jumping. seen it happen, from a tree to a house.

I saw plans somewhere one time that told how to make your own solar cells but I don't remember where i saw it all. If i were going to power stuff by solar cell then i'd make damn sure that EVERYTHING would be able to run and have plenty of energy left over. it's the cost of the batteries that would sustain my power usage at night that i'd be most concerned with.

[Greenflame]

Alot of people over hype Electronics.A resistor resists, a capacitor
holds a capacity, a Transformer Transforms ex: 117V to 6.7V, a
Transistor Amplifys or Cleans a signal, a IC is just common
components in a chip with 8+ leads,a diode acts as as a switch or
filter,a Oscillator turns on and off really quick which is why its used
in alot of radio equipment for Hz,Mhz,Ghz etc...

Of course there are different types of Capacitors,Transistors,Resistors
that function differently but it's basicly the same.All these MIT dudes
think they have super intellect because they can put some sensors on
a board with Motors and make it emulate stuff, but even if they design
there own chips it's still something that anyone with $10 and a ride
to Radio Shack can do; they just make 70k+ salarys doing it.

On a side note, I have a 4 Year degree/Bachelors in EE and I am flat
broke, and without a Job.Knowledge dosent really matter in big
buisness.It's asthetics, and the ability to be a good marketing tool.

I know a Bum who was a Lead Engineer/Designer for IBM from 77-86
and is doing shit work like roofing and auto repair now at the age of
49.In the IT Industry if you dont get in the Media or start you're own
company with a Idea you get put out to pasture, and replaced with
some stabuck techno tard who's only attribute is to use pre-existing
technoligy and advertise something as cutting edge.

If Kevin Mitnik didnt get his face all over the News he would still be
in prison or working a shitty job.Most of his "Friends" didnt give a
fuck about him till he was famous, hell they flamed the hell outta
him when he was just a HAM operator.They talk shit about the media
but there Whores for any Magazine or known writer that will acknow-
ledge them.

[THErAPIST]

i know :wink:
ive got 6 neon sign transformers outside... i know what they do. i also know how to fish with them :D

a stun gun has multiple step up transfomers and an oscilator in them

my jacob's ladder has resistors on it to make the spark gap jump more reliably. I also use resistors as the electric igniters on fireworks. overload the resistor and it catches on fire.. Those neon sign transformers do a great job of overloading them. car batteries hooked up in series do also.

I use capacitors to make coil guns and to zap the shit out of large insects...

I know all about all of that stuff. I don't know shit about radios, but ive never really been interested in them or how they work. as i said i was just giving you shit.

back on topic though... do YOU know how to make a solar cell? I've wanted to for quite some time now but i don't feel like paying $30 to get plans, and i don't remember the site that had the plans on it

EDIT: i live in the second largest tourist area in the US. it's also one of the fastest growing ares in the US. i'll never be out of work as an electrician or a plumber here. theres actually a shortage of both

[Greenflame]

There is supposedly a way to do it with photo transistors and
Copper wrapping wire, but i dont know mutch about it.They
are actually made out of silicon and some type of crystaline
stuff that simulates the Photon property of plant leafs.

check out Howstuffworks.com ! I think they tell how to make
one.If not they have links.

[Biovore]

So i got bored and did some calculating....

to reach 240V i will need: 437 panels, a $2 each i will need: $874 for each panel. So now i have spent about $900 and i make a peak power of 240 volts at say a generous 1 amp. yay, i can run my computer, maybe. To run my house, i esitmate that i will need 40 amps at peak load, and 15 at idle. my now small figure of 874 is now out to $13 000 to run my house a idle load.

[Greenflame]

437 Panels? you didnt calculate right.I use on average 49-50KWH a
Day.I coud easly power my whole house with 2 8wx2 1/2y Panels.I
am on 120v US of course but I could easly play with the potential
difference and acheve 240V.

As far as Amperage goes thats not even a issue! you just wire the
cells in series with some capacitors and Transistiors.There are alot
of Texts on wiring Solar Cells to acheve preffered Amp/Volt ratings
on the net.John T. Draper A.K.A Capn Crunch came up with a Genius method of wiring a Panel.You can google for the text on it.

If you stop for a sec and look at this as a whole it's basicly 1 step above
making a crystal radio.The Safety Codes for Solar Systems are also
easy to follow and fairly basic.

[Biovore]

No i didnt:

240 / .55 = 436.3

If i was to wire in series, which i would have to the voltages would add, then i would need to wire into parralle to get the amps to add later....

[Greenflame]

Not to be toooo off topic but GreenFlame = kakk ?


kakk? whas that a member here or something off of a Cartoon?


No i didnt:

240 / .55 = 436.3

If i was to wire in series, which i would have to the voltages would add, then i would need to wire into parralle to get the amps to add later....


Yea, thats solar cells not Panels! Like I said 2 8 x 2 1/2 Panels.The
cells are about the size of you're thumb that has 0.55v ratings.It
would take 20 cells to produce 1.1v.So at $2 each you would pay
$40 per volt without any special wiring on the board,so you would
spend around $9,600 for the 0.55v cells.Thats if you didnt shop
lift them from radio shack or some warehouse.You could cut that
price in half re-wiring a 120v setup, or really get off cheap going
through some whole sale company.Ill probly get mine for free
cause Im flat broke.

I live close to a company that leaves them outside with brand new
hot tubs and stuff.I have 5 Truck Deep Cycle Batterys in my building.

I bet I can make a 40 watt panel! depending on sunlight of course
that is only 10inches by 11inches.

[Biovore]

0.55v ratings.It
would take 20 cells to produce 1.1v

Can you eleaborate where the loss is? by my count, that should be about 10.1v... im lost here...

[Greenflame]

0.55 is 55

55 * 20 = 1100

0.55

55 / 1000 is 0.055

0.55 is 55 of 1k, 1k is 1 volt.A volt is 1 thousand something(Its in the
back of my head!) I think it's jouls though. 0.55v is 55 jouls(I think).
Your calculation of 0.55 * 20 should return 11.The accurate calculation
is 55 * 20 which return 1100.I cant believe I forgot what 0.55 of one
volt is, I am pretty sure 1 volt is 1k jouls though.

[Biovore]

Volt = joule / coulomb Volts are a measurement...

If a battery has a rating of 1 volt it is capable of doing 1 joule of work for each coulomb...

Yeah my bad i made a typo... that should have been 11.0...

[Greenflame]

so 0.55v is a Fraction of a Volt? I think you're measurment and
mine are the same depending on how you look at it.My calculations
arent as good as yours.

I was thinking 0.55 was 55 of 100 which was 1 Hundred of a Thousand.
I was eleven hundred with my formula, and yours was 11.This confuses
me! I dont like measurements like for example 0.738, they dont really
make since to me.

I still cant remember what minus 1 volt is reffered to! I know there is
kV=1k+;mV=Million+ but as far as say 0.967 where a volt is 1 thousand
I am lost.I can understand it as a Fraction like you did though, thats
simple.I am just trying to figure out it's name.

This is why I never use Metrics...
LOL, it is dynamic mathmatics, it can be fraction or Metrics.

Radioshack labels it 0.55v when in fact it should be 0.55cV(centivolt).
I didnt think they used Metrics.

1.100 kilovolts A.K.A 1.1V where a AA is 1.5


1 Giga (G) = 1 billion = 1,000,000,000
1 Mega (M) = 1 million = 1,000,000
1 kilo (k) = 1 thousand = 1,000
1 centi (c) = 1 one-hundredth = 0.01
1 milli (m) = 1 one-thousandth = 0.001
1 micro (u) = 1 one-millionth = 0.000001
1 pico (p) = 1 one-trillionth = 0.000000000001


Inless they where really useing decimal fractions..
It would still be the same though.