Marvel Characters

[SayItAintSo014]

Who, in your opinion, do you think is the best Marvel super hero or villain?

I personally think that Spiderman, with his super strength, speed, web slinging abilities, and spider senses is the best super hero. Superman is completely overrated and has too many powers and is immune to too many things. So obviously I'm not including Superman, because he's a little bitch.

(I'm kind of high and I needed to say that, so my apologies for this being a horrible thread)

[torcher]

superman is DC, but im not big into marvel. if i had to choose a comic it'd be Batman. he's got reasons to fight.

[Darkhunter]

He's the best in my opinion; The Punisher. Seems human and could be done in life for the most part.

[who's house?]

No idea if he's a Marvel creation, but Iron Man

Mainly because I can remember him from my childhood more than Superman, Batman etc...

[odin_dax]

Superman sucks. Nothing can hurt him, earth heals him, and he do whatever he wants. Who cares? The movies exhausted everything he can do, which is why the last one sucked beyond belief. Besides, he's not Marvel.

I vote for Wolverine from the X-Men.

[SilentOctober]

There are a lot of dimensions to this question, and a lot of it simply depends on who is writing the character.
Wolverine is my favorite, which i hate saying because he's so obvious a choice, but i love his character. alive for a hundred and thirty years and trained in almost every single kind of combat you can imagine, so even without his unbreakable skeleton, razor sharp claws that will treat concrete like its paper, and healing factor that makes him pretty much unkillable, he'd still be one of the most dangerous men on the planet. so he definetly has the badass part down.
however, what i like more about him is the emotional dimensions to his character. the man's been through more hell than most people could wrap their minds around, and he's still fighting for peace, equality, and a lot of times, simple salvation for a world that hates him. I find it completely interesting that wolverine's ideal world, the world that he puts his life on the line for daily, isn't even a world where he himself could live. he's a weapon, and will never know peace even as he fights to bring it to others. furthermore, i think his fight was best illustrated by chris claremont and frank miller in the "wolverine" miniseries where he went to japan in his rbown and tan costume to save his beloved mariko. wolverine's mutation always threatens to turn him into moire of an animal than a man, and force him to become the killing machine that he was born (and bred) to be, but logan is a man and decided that the war inside was one that he would always fight, because even if he never becomes what he ought to be, he would never know unless he tried. wolverine is a character about becoming more than you were meant to be, and putting your skill to your belief, wether thats what it was designed for or not. wolverine is a supreme badass thats taken on and defeated beings of every shape size and power level, yet his story is always about the inner fight, because thats what really defines his character.

but if you ask me who the best MARVEL character is, i'd say hands down, spiderman. marvel is a universe of heroes, and spiderman is THE quintessential hero. he's the most self sacrificing, the most persistent, the little guy constantly against odds that are far beyond him but he fights through and triumphs at whatever personal cost because its "the right thing to do". his mantra, we all know it, comic fans or not, is the quintessential mantra for a "hero". with great power... also, when reading spiderman, you don't just read about his life as a superhero, but as a virtuous man who is constantly getting shit on because he can't bring himself to get his hands dirty enough to cheat, lie, steal, or anything that goes against his moral code. he's a family man, a teacher, a scientist, and a goddamn humanitarian. yes, i would say that he's the best.

but my title is x-men, they are my family.

as far as DC goes, batman's probably the best and my favorite, but he's no one that I would ever call a hero. more a psycho with a brilliant focus mind thats not necessarily working for a better society for civilians, but for revenge on a concept that ruined his childhood. not the hero, but one hell of a read.

i fucking love comic books.


FUCK SUPERMAN. FUCK HIM UP HIS FUCKING ASS WITH A KRYPTONITE PINECONE. for years he's held the title of the worlds best and greatest, and all that, and he's been generic, surface level, and held people's entire belief structures about comic books back from reaching the depth of their potential for years. however, i have read more recent stories and i can say that i think its changign quickly over these past few years. they are really tapping the depth for him now while still sticking to the original character they made him, and i think its working rather well. i don't give a fuck though, the x-men would beat his kryptonian brains in, especially if they fought in an era where jean grey was in control of her phoenix abilities, which were explained to be the second most powerful force in the universe (second only to the creator which is not named or really talked abotu or anything like that.)


what can i say, i'm a geek.

[odin_dax]

FUCK SUPERMAN. FUCK HIM UP HIS FUCKING ASS WITH A KRYPTONITE PINECONE. for years he's held the title of the worlds best and greatest, and all that, and he's been generic, surface level, and held people's entire belief structures about comic books back from reaching the depth of their potential for years. however, i have read more recent stories and i can say that i think its changign quickly over these past few years. they are really tapping the depth for him now while still sticking to the original character they made him, and i think its working rather well. i don't give a fuck though, the x-men would beat his kryptonian brains in, especially if they fought in an era where jean grey was in control of her phoenix abilities, which were explained to be the second most powerful force in the universe (second only to the creator which is not named or really talked abotu or anything like that.)


what can i say, i'm a geek.

Well, I can say I'm not a geek, so I have to ask... When you talk about the "creator" from X-Men, are you talking about Apocalypse? I saw the cartoons when I was kid.

[Wanderer]

No. The3 creator was only ever mentioned in the dark phoenix saga as far as i've read. its not a specific character that they've defined, more the concept of whatever brought reality into being.

[blaksun]

superman is dc jesus christ.

hulk ftw.

[Bossman8867]

Wolverine FTW (NOT HUGH JACKMAN!!!)

[Æhµ]

Necroman is my favorite, he skims ancient forum posts and revives them from the dead.

[NewSpeak]

Necroman is my favorite, he skims ancient forum posts and revives them from the dead.
lol


I'm a fan of Iron Man and Batman. Something about the self-made superhero, people with inhuman enhanced powers but still fragile human psyches...hits my appreciation sensors in all the right places.

This (http://hplusmagazine.com/2010/03/29/transhumanism-and-superheroes/) is an interesting article, btw.

[Saturday]

Dr. Strange.

[Æhµ]

Plasticman - not the later revived version in which they tried to make him a typical superhero type, but the original pervy version as created by Playboy artist Jack Cole. Those original Plasticman comics are a hoot. I don't remember if it was DC or Marvel that bought the rights.