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torcher
7th January 2007, 08:25 AM
http://todayspictures.slate.com/inmotion/essay_chernobyl/?zsacategory=2129759

a Chernobyl Legacy. its kind of hard to watch.

after the first seven pictures you will have to press play. if you decide to watch.

piewalker
7th January 2007, 05:02 PM
No, I'm not a great fan of nuclear power either, but as of yet, theres no better source of energy.
Alot of developement needs to go into methods of extracting energy from renewable sources before they can become efficient enough to use.

Also, the commentator on that slideshow seemed a little insensitive at times. Calling children monsters and whatnot...

torcher
7th January 2007, 08:02 PM
i never said nuclear power was bad. i think it is a good and amazing thing. i think it should be used more than it already is. Chernobyl is one reason it's not. everyone got scared of it and now doesn't want to use it. but if you think of all the nuclear powered submarines, shouldn't that be a little more scary? i mean a ship. under hundreds of thousands of pounds of water and no one seems worried that it will implode and contaminate the oceans.

did you see those kids? they're parents even acknowledged them as monsters and freaks, that is why a lot of them were given away. if you didn't know the story behind why they were like that and just saw pictures you would probably think the same thing. and if you listened to him you could tell at several different points that he was crying about the kids and the things that had happened to them.

Stone
7th January 2007, 11:42 PM
Nuclear power plants have developed quite alot since the days of Chernobyl and is now much safer. The problem is that there are still many unsafe Nuclear Power and Processing Plants in use today and they are not limited to the Bloc.

Every plant in the world should be audited by an agreed and competant neutral organisation (set up by the UN maybe) and if that organisation decides it's unsafe then the plant should be dismantled. Also if a new plant is to be built then this organisation has the power to allow or disallow the plans. A single organisation governing the use of Nuclear Energy Production for the world. This would bring cheap efficient and safe energy to most countries of the world.

torcher
8th January 2007, 05:17 AM
there would always be those who wouldn't comply though.i cant really say which would and which would not, but i know there would be. if that were to go into effect i dont think they should dismantle the plant if it is unsafe(to some degree). maybe a 2 strikes rule or something.

Stone
8th January 2007, 03:20 PM
there would always be those who wouldn't comply though

That is why I said most countries of the world. You would obviously have to be vetted beforehand.

Example 1: Iran today is trying to develop nuclear technology which they say is for energy generation. We all know that they are also pursuing it for weapons use. Verdict: NO.

Example 2: Bulgaria is a new member of the EU. The country is transforming fast from a dilapidated shithole in to a prosperous nation. To meet the demands of the population a new source of energy is needed. They apply to the organisation and recieve permission to build a regulated plant to provide energy. Verdict: YES.

It has been proven in countries such as Finland that Nuclear Power can be safe and still cheap. We should follow their lead now. There is no point in starting to build nuclear power plants in 20 years when we are using the very last of the unbelievably expensive fossil fuels and it will take at least half a decade to get the new plants operational. Nuclear Power will be the only option, the sooner the world accepts that the better.

AnemicFairy
4th May 2007, 02:10 AM
The Chernobyl thing is one reason why I am perfectly in favour of nuclear power. The area around Chernobyl is today perhaps the most spectacular wildlife area on the planet. It is this way for one reason alone: the area is no longer suitable for human habitation. In the absence of our rapacious species, the rest of nature is safe, and species on the brink of extinction everywhere else are flourishing around Chernobyl.

If that is a disaster, it seems to me we can do with a few more.

headcase
5th May 2007, 05:16 PM
Without nuclear energy the fossil fuels would have ran out long ago, which would be a much bigger disaster then Chernobyl. People who argue against it don't know what they're talking about. Usually either ignorant hippies or uninformed hacks.

Plus, once controlled fusion is cracked our energy needs will be sorted. Fusion is a clean, effecient, cheap and plentiful source of (nuclear) energy. But I'll bet you'll still find hippies argueing against it.

Esophagus
9th May 2007, 10:38 PM
The Chernobyl thing is one reason why I am perfectly in favour of nuclear power. The area around Chernobyl is today perhaps the most spectacular wildlife area on the planet. It is this way for one reason alone: the area is no longer suitable for human habitation. In the absence of our rapacious species, the rest of nature is safe, and species on the brink of extinction everywhere else are flourishing around Chernobyl.

If that is a disaster, it seems to me we can do with a few more.Or some of us could stop being douchebags, and do something about it. I can think of 483427842378423 better ways to preserve wildlife than to start mass power plant explosions everywhere we think has to many people.

That video is crazy. I didn't get the feeling the narrator actually thought of these kids as freaks, as in, he thinks they should just be shot, so much as "look what we inadvertantly do in our arrogant stupidity".

headcase
10th May 2007, 12:01 AM
Look what a 3rd world country's ignorance did. Wood from tree's.

Esophagus
10th May 2007, 03:17 AM
I didn't say it was only world poiwers that make us ignorant or anything. Were all in on it.

ComfortablyNumb
10th May 2007, 04:05 AM
My favorites were the kid that was in the straight-jacket for biting his hands, the kids that slither around on the floor and the circle jerk.

Esophagus
10th May 2007, 04:11 AM
I have a substitute teacher that likes to tell stories. He told us about when he worked at a center for the handicapped or "retards" as he calls them. Apparently they used to have to sit around the edge of this big gym for like five hours a day, and theyd all just jack off because they had nothing better to do. And there was one kid that always got locked in a cell because he liked to hurt himself, but even with restraints hed find ways to hurt himself. Then one day my teacher snuck him into the sdhower room and bathed him then just let him lay there unrestrained, and he never did anything to himself. The only reason most of them are self destructive is because they are treated like crap.