My current pedo bait and plan

[paninvmuthafuckinass!]

The character "I" is fictional and for informational purposes only, aswell as hypothetical ;)

Ok here is my plan on what to do with this pedo and what I've been doing with him so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/Me.jpg

Basically this guy is the guy I've been baiting for the past month and a half.

I picked up this guy from UK chatterbox (site link in my basic pedo baiting guide) and started talking as normal in the open chat room 13-16 and later was asked my a/s/l me seeing this as an opportunity took it and I lied about it, stating myself as being 14/F/UK.

Not surprised at all I was receiving 6 requests to chat and only accept 3, all but 1 which didn't seem as keen to get an msn so I doubted they were pedo's, and then I kept the second one who wanted to chat, and saw he was like oooo hiya bbe, where u frm da UK?

I thought to my self "got one" =)

I actually didn't lie this time and I told him I lived in Derby (which is true) and this time to my surprise found out that this guy only lives about 45mins-1hrs drive away from me, and is living in Birmingham (luckily he isn't a nigger like alot of Brums) we talked for 10 mins with some simple "oh yh, hiya, wuu2" questions until he asked for my msn (luckily I had a new one premade) and gave it him willingly with no questions just like any typical naive 14 year old girl would and I told him "i g2g bbe bwoi or my dad is gunna kill me 4 nt doin ma hwk" ..."kk bbe will u b on l8a"...."yh i will b, so ill ttyl xx" bubi blah blah.

I had a good 2 hours knowing I had fun in store later on that night, and prepared myself for how I was going to handle him.

Me being an average player when it comes to baiting always take my time and never jump straight in so the convo just started off on him asking for pics so I gave him a few of a friend of mine and he kept asking if he could lick me out, I said "anytym bbe n u can cum n meet me" (this always gets their juices flowing)

I asked for a pic of him and he obviously gave me the pic I showed at the start, and we talked a bit about ourselves and I found out that he was 28 just turning 29 soon. I was relieved he was younger and more in experienced, but I knew he was pedo with the put on/forced smile and when he said "wud u even let me eat u out in da mornin afta my shreddies 4 nutrition"
After that I told him shouldn't be on the net and my dad would kill me if he saw me online so I then went for the night.

The next few days we just talked, and I made out I was a victim of abuse and wanted a way out soon...but I was abused because "my mum sed im a tart n bring shme on v family" and i "ddn't feel prt ov v family neway" but my "brother" I actually do care about and don't want to lose him (this comes into some of the greatness later on) he told me that he cared and I told him he was sweet and a great person (to smack around the head with a lead pipe)

Next day he wanted ME to know I really cared for him, and asked if I could send him a fan pic, so meh I got my friend who let me use her pics earlier to take one, and I sent him this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/f.jpg

After about 2 weeks I let him message me (I didn't talk to him 1st) and I acted down and depressed and told him my dad was still being a prick, I was struggling with my homework (I actually got the fucker to do the questions for me) and then told him I was down because I didn't have enough money to get my brother a birthday present and it was in a weeks time. He asked what my brother would like (I told him exactly what I would like ;)...that being a Nike watch and a Lacoste jumper) and he insisted on giving me the money, I denied like any fake teenager trying to sound decent, would do and he ended up saying he wouldn't take no for an answer and he would even buy them for me and mail them...I asked him if he was sure and that he didn't have to, just to make him want to even more ;) blah blah blah, the fucker asked for the address so he could drop them off or mail them. Me knowing how pedo's minds work, knew it'd be a very bad idea to give him my address or even a friends address; so luckily for me I have an abandoned house on the same street as one of my friends; and I had changed the locks on this house myself so that only I could use it, for a hideout. I gave him the address to it and I had my friend keep watch every morning just for the post man or any unusual activity around the house so I knew whether to call for back up or just wait until he'd left (if he was there)

While I was waiting for my goods to come I kept talking to him, and he wanted to send me a pic of his cock. But since pedo's go for the more innocent type and gullible I told him I couldn't cos it's my dads comp, but I'd hope to be seeing it very soon ;)

About 2 days later the same old routine was call up my friend who lives opposite the abandoned drop location, to tell me if the actual pedophile is at the house with the gift or who/what dropped it off, so I know not to fall into a trap. And I went down to the drop on my bike this morning and picked up the package which turned out to be the lacoste jumper. Well me forgetting it was bank holiday I forgot my mum was off work today, so when she heard me ripping open the bag it was in she came in and saw the new jumper and asked me where I got it from. I just used the same excuse for the watch and said my GF gave it me as our 6 month anniversary present (ironic because I just split up with my GF about 4 days ago), she began asking why she didn't just give it me the other day with the watch, and I said she decided to give it me today because she felt she owed me more for whatever reason.

She has been asking why I haven't been to see eve(my ex) for the rest of the day, so I said that she has gone out to Scarborough for the day with her family; and no more was said but my mum keeps being persistent to get on the comp, probably so she can check through all my files to see if I've been up to anything (since I'm on the comp alot recently with scamming), so I've not only cleared my files with crap cleaner but I've set her as a restricted user and no longer an admin. She shouldn't notice since she isn't too computer smart until it comes to checking files.

I've now put a lock on my door to stop interruptions.

Advice to baiters is never collect your objects in the morning, get your friend to keep hold of it for a while.

(I'm posting the goods tomorrow hopefully when the cam he's sending me comes)

But now we have been still talking alot and he was persistent for me to go on webcam or send him some new pics (since I had the friend who took the pics go on and talk to him for me before) but my friend wasn't here so I made out my webcam was broke because my dad saw me on cam to people and smashed it. He's sent me a camcorder with a digital camera (I think) so I can send him new pics.

He's meeting me in 2 weeks time at my hideout, and my dad is in on it to take him down (just tackle) tie him up and bribe him aswell as take some of his money (he'll have it because he's supposed to be "taking me out shopping for the day" =)

Here's pics of the goods so far, like I promised.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/eggpics001.jpg

[ThePrincessOfScam]

very very very nice.

Love it... People here seem very unfriendly to me in terms of my choice ot pedo bait. But niiiice job.

[ComfortablyNumb]

We're not being unfriendly, just telling you to use caution.

[odin_dax]

The character "I" is fictional and for informational purposes only, aswell as hypothetical ;)

Ok here is my plan on what to do with this pedo and what I've been doing with him so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/Me.jpg

Basically this guy is the guy I've been baiting for the past month and a half.

I picked up this guy from UK chatterbox (site link in my basic pedo baiting guide) and started talking as normal in the open chat room 13-16 and later was asked my a/s/l me seeing this as an opportunity took it and I lied about it, stating myself as being 14/F/UK.

Not surprised at all I was receiving 6 requests to chat and only accept 3, all but 1 which didn't seem as keen to get an msn so I doubted they were pedo's, and then I kept the second one who wanted to chat, and saw he was like oooo hiya bbe, where u frm da UK?

I thought to my self "got one" =)

I actually didn't lie this time and I told him I lived in Derby (which is true) and this time to my surprise found out that this guy only lives about 45mins-1hrs drive away from me, and is living in Birmingham (luckily he isn't a nigger like alot of Brums) we talked for 10 mins with some simple "oh yh, hiya, wuu2" questions until he asked for my msn (luckily I had a new one premade) and gave it him willingly with no questions just like any typical naive 14 year old girl would and I told him "i g2g bbe bwoi or my dad is gunna kill me 4 nt doin ma hwk" ..."kk bbe will u b on l8a"...."yh i will b, so ill ttyl xx" bubi blah blah.

I had a good 2 hours knowing I had fun in store later on that night, and prepared myself for how I was going to handle him.

Me being an average player when it comes to baiting always take my time and never jump straight in so the convo just started off on him asking for pics so I gave him a few of a friend of mine and he kept asking if he could lick me out, I said "anytym bbe n u can cum n meet me" (this always gets their juices flowing)

I asked for a pic of him and he obviously gave me the pic I showed at the start, and we talked a bit about ourselves and I found out that he was 28 just turning 29 soon. I was relieved he was younger and more in experienced, but I knew he was pedo with the put on/forced smile and when he said "wud u even let me eat u out in da mornin afta my shreddies 4 nutrition"
After that I told him shouldn't be on the net and my dad would kill me if he saw me online so I then went for the night.

The next few days we just talked, and I made out I was a victim of abuse and wanted a way out soon...but I was abused because "my mum sed im a tart n bring shme on v family" and i "ddn't feel prt ov v family neway" but my "brother" I actually do care about and don't want to lose him (this comes into some of the greatness later on) he told me that he cared and I told him he was sweet and a great person (to smack around the head with a lead pipe)

Next day he wanted ME to know I really cared for him, and asked if I could send him a fan pic, so meh I got my friend who let me use her pics earlier to take one, and I sent him this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/f.jpg

After about 2 weeks I let him message me (I didn't talk to him 1st) and I acted down and depressed and told him my dad was still being a prick, I was struggling with my homework (I actually got the fucker to do the questions for me) and then told him I was down because I didn't have enough money to get my brother a birthday present and it was in a weeks time. He asked what my brother would like (I told him exactly what I would like ;)...that being a Nike watch and a Lacoste jumper) and he insisted on giving me the money, I denied like any fake teenager trying to sound decent, would do and he ended up saying he wouldn't take no for an answer and he would even buy them for me and mail them...I asked him if he was sure and that he didn't have to, just to make him want to even more ;) blah blah blah, the fucker asked for the address so he could drop them off or mail them. Me knowing how pedo's minds work, knew it'd be a very bad idea to give him my address or even a friends address; so luckily for me I have an abandoned house on the same street as one of my friends; and I had changed the locks on this house myself so that only I could use it, for a hideout. I gave him the address to it and I had my friend keep watch every morning just for the post man or any unusual activity around the house so I knew whether to call for back up or just wait until he'd left (if he was there)

While I was waiting for my goods to come I kept talking to him, and he wanted to send me a pic of his cock. But since pedo's go for the more innocent type and gullible I told him I couldn't cos it's my dads comp, but I'd hope to be seeing it very soon ;)

About 2 days later the same old routine was call up my friend who lives opposite the abandoned drop location, to tell me if the actual pedophile is at the house with the gift or who/what dropped it off, so I know not to fall into a trap. And I went down to the drop on my bike this morning and picked up the package which turned out to be the lacoste jumper. Well me forgetting it was bank holiday I forgot my mum was off work today, so when she heard me ripping open the bag it was in she came in and saw the new jumper and asked me where I got it from. I just used the same excuse for the watch and said my GF gave it me as our 6 month anniversary present (ironic because I just split up with my GF about 4 days ago), she began asking why she didn't just give it me the other day with the watch, and I said she decided to give it me today because she felt she owed me more for whatever reason.

She has been asking why I haven't been to see eve(my ex) for the rest of the day, so I said that she has gone out to Scarborough for the day with her family; and no more was said but my mum keeps being persistent to get on the comp, probably so she can check through all my files to see if I've been up to anything (since I'm on the comp alot recently with scamming), so I've not only cleared my files with crap cleaner but I've set her as a restricted user and no longer an admin. She shouldn't notice since she isn't too computer smart until it comes to checking files.

I've now put a lock on my door to stop interruptions.

Advice to baiters is never collect your objects in the morning, get your friend to keep hold of it for a while.

(I'm posting the goods tomorrow hopefully when the cam he's sending me comes)

But now we have been still talking alot and he was persistent for me to go on webcam or send him some new pics (since I had the friend who took the pics go on and talk to him for me before) but my friend wasn't here so I made out my webcam was broke because my dad saw me on cam to people and smashed it. He's sent me a camcorder with a digital camera (I think) so I can send him new pics.

He's meeting me in 2 weeks time at my hideout, and my dad is in on it to take him down (just tackle) tie him up and bribe him aswell as take some of his money (he'll have it because he's supposed to be "taking me out shopping for the day" =)

Here's pics of the goods so far, like I promised.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/eggpics001.jpg

I understand the need to take down a pedo, but it's morally wrong, and makes you no better than the pedo, to keep the "gifts."

If the pedo was smart, he followed the package, then followed you. Meeting him in two weeks might backfire if he has everything checked out. Then again, pedos are pretty stupid.

[ComfortablyNumb]

it's morally wrong, and makes you no better than the pedo, to keep the "gifts."




How is it morally wrong?

[Scamula]

I understand the need to take down a pedo, but it's morally wrong, and makes you no better than the pedo, to keep the "gifts."

If the pedo was smart, he followed the package, then followed you. Meeting him in two weeks might backfire if he has everything checked out. Then again, pedos are pretty stupid.

I fail to see how keeping free goodies compares to deceiving and raping children. While I would not do the pedo baiting scheme, I don't see it as morally wrong and I have zero sympathy for the pedos. The only thing is I hope that the people who do this don't wind up getting whipped at their own game....because no matter how "tight" you think your scheme is or how invincible you think you are, it is possible for you to go down.

[odin_dax]

If you don't see it, I can never explain it.

[headcase]

That's why everyone can have a great laugh and feel good about this scam. No one feels sympathy for paedophiles. It's win-win!

[Esophagus]

Actually I think its Lose-Lose.

While I don't have any sympathy for a pedophile you'd have to be a mass douchebag to pull this scam.

a) they have a problem. youre exploiting it. asshole.
b) you're going to get caught and fucked over. quite possibly literally. hope the "gifts" are worth it.

[headcase]

They don't have a problem. A problem is something you go to a doctor or a shrink for. Something to get treatment for. Trying to hook up with a 14 year old on the internet is disgusting. I know I've been expressing my willingness to kill a lot of people on these boards (I'm a nice guy, really), but I'd kill them (slowly and painfully) with a clear conscience too.

As for being caught, meh. I can look after myself, and I'd have some (bigger) friends with me at the drop-off point too. What can go wrong?

[Scamula]

If you don't see it, I can never explain it.

I see that these men who are doing this to these kids are crap. Technically two wrongs do not make a right but I feel that accepting the sucker's gifts and milking him dry is a lesser crime than stealing some kid's innocense and any kind of sexual crime.

Even in the sheeplistic legal system, crimes against the person are less "bad" and will get you much less punishment than an economic crime.

These pedos get what they deserve....I just hope that our young hustlers here don't bite off more than they can chew because some of these dudes can become violent if they realize they'd been had.

[Scamula]

a) they have a problem. youre exploiting it. asshole.

People with problems want solutions. There are many avenues of help and many alternatives for these sickos from counseling to support groups to plain dating your equal and staying off those sites that give you access to children to exploit. These men don't have a "problem" until they get caught and then the tears and the lies start flowing. When/if they get off, they go right back to their old habits.

All they want is what they want regardless of whether it is right or wrong...I see nothing wrong with exploiting them. It's not my style really to take part in a such a scheme, but i don't see it as "wrong" per se.

[Esophagus]

I don't consider it exploiting a problem like selling liquor outside of AA. But there is something wrong with these people. Theyre fucked up. And baiting them is just stupid. Dont bleed in the shark tank.

[Esophagus]

I just read the full original post, as opposed to the skimming i did before.

luckily he isn't a nigger like alot of Brums first off i hope im somehow misinterpretting(sp?) that.

second off, your dad is in on this now, and has no problems with everything you've done?

[Scamula]

^ Good work Esophagus. I'm guilty of skimming as well but when I saw the word nigger I was like "what?". There are sleazebags in all races....by being a racist fuck perhaps the OP should end up getting whipped up in his own scheme. On another note, it shocks me the sheer number of racists I find on TOTSE talking nigger this and nigger that. But yet they're in bad ideas asking for tips on how to scam money out of ATMS and how to shoplift and other stereotypical "nigger behaviors". If you're acting more "nigger-like" than a good number of blacks, who are you to call anyone a nigger or be racist? This has always boggled my mind.

[odin_dax]

I have no sympathy for pedos either. They're disgusting, and they do deserve what they get. It's actually one of the mental disorders nobody knows the cause of, so there is no treatment or help. However, I draw the line on what's been expressed here. Esophagus made some good points. On top of that, it's not up to us to commit justice. In fact, blackmail is illegal. Turn them over the records to the police and have them meet him.

My beef with the gifts is that they should not be kept, as I've said, because it's wrong and disgusting. As I've also said, I can't explain why it's wrong to somebody who doesn't see it as wrong, because that person has a warped sense of justice, no offense. Since society is currently focused on the self, I know many people would do the same. Keeping the gifts without turning him in doesn't help the next potential victim, and if you turn him in, that's great, but I'm sure the police will ask what happened to the gifts.

Pedos exploit children, children exploit pedos. It's the same level...

[ThePrincessOfScam]

We're not being unfriendly, just telling you to use caution.


YOU are.

Esophogus said that I was gunna get raped by one (or he wished I would, something like that) and it was odin dax who said I was disgusting for what I did and he wishes something bad would happen to me.

I will no longer stress scope of practice on these forums as I am getting sick of repeating myself.

[Scamula]

I have no sympathy for pedos either. They're disgusting, and they do deserve what they get. It's actually one of the mental disorders nobody knows the cause of, so there is no treatment or help. However, I draw the line on what's been expressed here. Esophagus made some good points. On top of that, it's not up to us to commit justice. In fact, blackmail is illegal. Turn them over the records to the police and have them meet him.

My beef with the gifts is that they should not be kept, as I've said, because it's wrong and disgusting. As I've also said, I can't explain why it's wrong to somebody who doesn't see it as wrong, because that person has a warped sense of justice, no offense. Since society is currently focused on the self, I know many people would do the same. Keeping the gifts without turning him in doesn't help the next potential victim, and if you turn him in, that's great, but I'm sure the police will ask what happened to the gifts.

Pedos exploit children, children exploit pedos. It's the same level...

I understand where you are coming from. And you make an good point when you say that by keeping the goodies, you are not doing much to help the next victim who comes along. And the po po will probably bug you about what became of the goodies.

I do probably have a warped sense of justice according to many. :biggrin:. I don't deny that. As long as I don't kill or hurt anyone, then all is good in my mind. With these schemes it seems like may the best hustler wins. Selfishness is an inherent part of human nature and it has always been that way and it always will be that way IMHO. People are going to do what it takes to "get theirs" regardless. I did used to be a decent person but the only constant in life is a sea of change. :)

I'm rambling. Regarding your last sentence (pedos exploit children, children exploit pedos), you have a point. But I still feel that the biggest share of blame lies with the older person as he or she is supposed to know better. Age and time should teach you something. I can excuse a little more foolishness out of an younger person.

But I do understand where you are coming from.

[Esophagus]

I agree wholy with you odin dax. Pedo Baiting helps no one but yourself, and even that wont last long.

POS, I never said I hoped you get raped. I said keep this up and its coming to you. Thats not a threat, thats telling you how dangerously silly this is.

[DoctaD]

The best things in life are free... Love, sex, gifts from scammed paedophiles.

Personally, I see nothing morally wrong with keeping these gifts. It's like stealing a rapist's lube or a murderer's ammo.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

I have to agree :aargh4:
It's like stealing a rapist's lube or a murderer's ammo.

[Esophagus]

The best things in life are free... Love, sex, gifts from scammed paedophiles.

Personally, I see nothing morally wrong with keeping these gifts. It's like stealing a rapist's lube or a murderer's ammo.
If you stole a rapists lube you would obviously know what he looked like, and that he was a rapist, and quite possibly his name and address. If you had this information and just laughed about the way you got free lube from some rapist, and didn't do something about it, I'd think that was morally wrong too.

[DoctaD]

Do you seriously think rapists carry a tube of KY in their pocket?

[odin_dax]

The best things in life are free... Love, sex, gifts from scammed paedophiles.

Personally, I see nothing morally wrong with keeping these gifts. It's like stealing a rapist's lube or a murderer's ammo.

Tax refunds are pretty good too.

[Esophagus]

No, its just a response to your example.

[odin_dax]

Do you seriously think rapists carry a tube of KY in their pocket?

Probably TN jelly....

[Scamula]

If you had this information and just laughed about the way you got free lube from some rapist, and didn't do something about it, I'd think that was morally wrong too.

:lmao:

I am so dying over here! Free lube from some rapist...for some reason I have tears in my eyes now I am cracking up so hard.

[REL0AD]

in the eyes of the court, the pedos life is jsut as important as yours. they wont care that you scammed a pedo, they'll care that you scammed 'someone'... jsut be careful.

[paninvmuthafuckinass!]

Here's just some updates (replies of mine from the same thread on my pedobaiting website)

Haha this guy is getting impatient and wants to bring the meet up day forward...so I may be getting my money earlier :P

I'm just keeping him in suspense atm and keeping the arrangement the same until he cracks and wants to come even earlier, he'll think it's less likely a trap aswell if I want to keep it the same date instead of being eager to bring him down here quickly.

The guy is trying to get out of money though; here's what he said to me:

Milzie Chronicles says:
I can't wait to spend the whole day in bed with you when I come down
The fucker promised to take me "shopping" for clothes
sxciful kink pink says:
u hfta buy me b4 u try me ;) u wan me 2 luk gd dnt u :)
sxciful kink pink says: u can chose wat i ware :P
Now he'll wanna buy me some expensive kinky stuff
Milzie Chronicles says:
Now that I'm looking forward 2 :D
sxciful kink pink says:
me 2 bbe cnt w8 2 meet u n cuddle up in mums bed wen shes out 4 tha day ;P

The rest of the convo was more or less the same and "ooo I really can't wait to meet you now". But I think I've got this sucker deeper in shit, because now he definitely intends to "spend the whole day in bed" with a 14 year old, how's he gonna deny his actions if he does decide to go to the police about me and my dad jumping him...his intentions for being at the hideout in the 1st place are gonna be a lil hard for him to talk his way round, especially since I have the convo's printed off and saved.
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This dude called me on my mobile (old one which I'm getting rid of after the bait), luckily I was with my friend who he'd previously been talking to and she spoke to him for a bit (with loud speaker on so I could hear what he was saying and so I could tell her what to say if needed) and he is bringing the meet up to Monday :o

All I can say is I'm fucking buzzing and can't wait to keep you updated with how the "meet up" goes.
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Here's how the trap is gonna be:

The door will be half open just as he gets here.

My friend is out with her family on that day (a governors meeting to get her a place to take her exams since my ex headteacher fucked her over aswell and kicked her out before her exams in a few weeks) so she can't come along, so I'm getting her to record herself saying "come here big boy" on a cassette so it seems like she's there.

He comes in and my dad will come out the cupboard just outside the entrance to the living room and put a sports bag over his head so that he can't see our faces and so he doesn't know what we're doing and will scare him more.

We're gonna have words and tell him all the evidence we have and what we'll do if he doesn't give us the cash.

If he isn't scared of a cop threat then we'll physically threaten him if he doesn't hand it over and keep his mouth shut.

Me and my dad will wear padded fighting gloves (like the UFC ones so we don't bruise him as easily); but also an orange in a sock doesn't leave bruises when smacked across someone's face (still hurts like a bitch though)

Pros
We have 2 bribery plans

He won't see our faces

He'll be more scared since he can't see

We won't leave suspicious bruises but will still be hurting him

It's in the day time when most people are at work

We don't look suspicious wearing ski masks in the day time at an "abandoned" house, yet the bag on his head still serves the purpose
Cons
I haven't thought of a way I can get the pedo out the hideout without suspicion once we're done (us threatening him and threatening him to get in his car and act all peachy, is all I can think of ATM...and I need that part sorted before monday)

I may only be able to get a pic of him holding a sign saying the website or my nickname (Baited by paininvmuthafuckinass AKA slim-ov-derby) since a video is pushing it too far even if he does go to the police (not very likely but there's a chance) and I don't want my dad going back inside or me getting put away for entrapment and assault (assault will not look good, since I've already had a run in with the pigs about that back in october)

The fucker might not bring as much money as expected (I told him atleast ?200-?300)

I've told you guys too much lol.

But remember this whole thing I could have dreamed up...it's all "hypothetical" ;)
You can guess if I'm lying about the above statement or not :P
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So the pics I have should be of the cash and him holding a sign up with a bag over his head while tied to the chair.
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Slight change of the plan is to take him into the garage via the kitchen side door instead, since there's no curtains/blinds at my hideout and the last thing we want is people who AREN'T at work to possibly see in and see some dude tied to a chair..doesn't look good does it.

Should have pics of him with a bag over his head and a sign saying the sites link...pedobaiting.info(with the bag over his head he won't be able to come to the site if he can't see it ;))

Should be a kickass trophy and atleast ?200-300 ontop of everything else.

[Lando2]

Nice hypothetical job! U is bein tha greetest!

Great plan, as for the escape, I would just leave one of those Kitchen Timers and set it for about anywhere from 10-30 minutes.

And give him instructions:

You: I am setting a timer that will go off in (however many) minutes, when the bell rings, you can stand up and the rope will come off the chair and slide off you. If you don't want to wait that long expect someone to hurt you if you try to leave.

Him: Oh shit, kk

Then, if you were planning to get that chicks voice on tape, you could add yours after about 5 minutes of silence saying "This guys a fucking bitch" and saying things in 5 minute increments.

This way, he will hopefully think someone is still there and stay put.

YOU SHOULD ALSO GRAB HIS KEYS AND CHECK HIS CAR FOR ANYTHING OF VALUE - And maybe leave a note wherever he keeps his money saying "Tell your friends about me, sick fuck."

[Esophagus]

doing this for cash is douchey.

[odin_dax]

It'd be funny if the dude sent somebody else to check out the scene, then he can deny the whole thing while his friend will sue you for theft and assault.

I hope you and your dad get caught and go to jail, because if you turn him in, he'll do the same to you.

[paninvmuthafuckinass!]

Well it's abandoned but I didn't feel comfortable leaving him there since it was still my hideout and you could still slightly hear him shouting from the bag lmao. But oh god I've got a story to tell (pics will be later on tonight so look out for them)

haha well we got there fairly early and were just pissing about on the comp there for a bit and about 9:00 am he came, I left the door half way open for him to come in but I locked the door to the main room and when he tried to get in I played the recording of my friend sayin "come here big boy" I then unlocked the door ran to the end of the room and my dad came from behind, put the sports bag over his head and wrestled with him for a while. I kicked the shit out of the pedos shin and then we threw him to the floor because he was to heavy. He didn't know what we were doing because of the bag and my dad did a bit of rustling about in the kitchen and got a knife...
he put it to the side of his face and started mumbling at him callnig him a disgusting maggot chickenshit motherfucker and was really being nasty to him while I was more or less the "good cop" I go and tell my dad that we should let him be free, but how much the freedom was worth to the pedo, so since his hands were tied up I asked the pedo and he could still talk through the bag so he told us we could take his money, and when we tried to he kicked me and my dad smacked him across the face and said if he tries it again he would cut his throat and jack off into it....
so the pedo was really scared now but my dad dragged him into the garage via the kitchen side door and placed him in the garage where less people could see us actually taking his money since there's no curtains in the main room and then we lay him down and my dad was smacking this guys legs with a pole (you can see it slightly in one of the pics but it's blurred because it was moving while I took the pic and i took his cash, put a sign on the bag took a pic and then we said to the guy that we were gonna reverse his car into the driveway so he didn't go into the open street and possibly get seen. so I did that while my dad "took care" of the pedo and then we got him in the car, cut the rope and my dad told him that if we were associated with anything to do with him again including court, then he would be seeing us again. And then he took the bag off the dudes head and we walked off back in the house and had a cup of coffee.
It was hard because we were constantly looking out for other people; ?180

the fucker came up shorter than he said I would so he musta thought I was a cheap slut, but then again I acted like one over AIM lmao.

Here are pics as promised:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/eggpics016.jpg
Here he was struggling and you can see my dad hit him with a pole (it's blurry because he went to hit him just as I took the pic)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/eggpics017.jpg
Here's the trophy shot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/manson1996/eggpics.jpg
And that's the cash :P

So no odin_dax we didn't get fucked, so motherfuck you too.

[Esophagus]

You should be locked up you dumb motherfucker.

[REL0AD]

You could ov just got your dad to pose like that and take a shot ov your birthday money :fing26: ... Nah, thats me being the paranoid cunt I am lol but nah, good job and hope you don't get caught mate.

[ComfortablyNumb]

hmmm, it might not be such a great idea to post that picture along with your complete admission of what you did, without at least using the SWIM acronym...

[paninvmuthafuckinass!]

Remember I did say I could have dreamt the whole thing and the video was too much evidence; the pic was made to look staged to a certain extent for obvious reasons.

I'll be honest though, SWIM feels disgusted with himself and thinks he's a sick person who's just as bad.

[S25]

I don't see what you did as morally wrong at all to be honest. That being said I think this thread should be deleted or something your fucking yourself over by posting this on the net big time.

[Esophagus]

SWIM should be disgusted. But probably also has the information to sitll turn this man into the police. Try that?

[crzydan81]

Swim is one A BS LIAR

or swim is 2 a fucking idiot. 1. you didnt have a gun. 2 you wore UFC gloves. those are to lessen the damage he could of kicked your ass. 3. an orange in a sock. are you joking? a nuts pedo with an adreneline rush wont feel that. 4. he could come find you know and kill you. i could go on for days. I agree with esophogus ur a fucking dumbass.

[Clit Crusader]

Wow... this should be deleted, I feel I have violated my probation for just reading this thread. Seriolsly dude this reminds me of the kids who got busted after robing houses and posting pictures on myspace.

[REL0AD]

Wow... this should be deleted, I feel I have violated my probation for just reading this thread. Seriolsly dude this reminds me of the kids who got busted after robing houses and posting pictures on myspace.

That's right. They got a bunch of graffiti artists off Myspace too...

So if they put the cash into pullin up taggers on the net, think of the brownie points a cop would get after coming accross this.

[Esophagus]

I'm a volunteer sheriff for the Lackawanna County sheriff's department. This information could be crucial to your arrest.

:tool:

[REL0AD]

I'm a volunteer sheriff for the Lackawanna County sheriff's department. This information could be crucial to your arrest.

:tool:

Fuckin spot on man. Get yourself some brownie points I say... That promotion could be a tad closer than you thought :birthday:

[odin_dax]

1. This whole thread is pointless. The whole thing is obviously made up. There are just too many holes.

2. Using the SWIM acronym is the dumbest bullshit on the internet. Good luck using that in court. You're better off saying, "I've heard of a guy...." or "I know somebody who..." There is a difference.

3. Kidnapping, blackmailing, robbing, and who knows what else, maybe assault... How do those of you who say it's okay to do this kind of thing not see the moral implications?



Subject closed in my book.

[ComfortablyNumb]

1. This whole thread is pointless. The whole thing is obviously made up. There are just too many holes.
yea, probably, but it is an interesting idea though.

2. Using the SWIM acronym is the dumbest bullshit on the internet. Good luck using that in court. You're better off saying, "I've heard of a guy...." or "I know somebody who..." There is a difference.
true, it probably wouldnt hold up in court, but there isnt really a difference between saying that and "I've heard of a guy..." etc.- the phrases have the same meaning, therefore, with some convincing wordplay, one could, in theory, get off on a technicality.

3. Kidnapping, blackmailing, robbing, and who knows what else, maybe assault... How do those of you who say it's okay to do this kind of thing not see the moral implications?
none of those actions have any inherent moral implications- it is the context in which they are committed that gives them any moral value- in this case the actions were committed (assuming the thread isnt bullshit) against a would-be child molestor, in that situation I do not feel that kidnapping, extortion, robbery, battery etc. are immoral. When people commit/attempt to commit certain actions (such as trying to have sex with young children) they forfeit their right to not have certain actions committed against them- that is not to say that anyone is obligated to dish out these punitive actions (including the state), but when someone does, it is not immoral. Therefore, scaring, robbing, extorting and assaulting a man attempting to have sex with a child in exchange for not telling the police is not immoral.

[Scamula]

none of those actions have any inherent moral implications- it is the context in which they are committed that gives them any moral value- in this case the actions were committed (assuming the thread isnt bullshit) against a would-be child molestor, in that situation I do not feel that kidnapping, extortion, robbery, battery etc. are immoral. When people commit/attempt to commit certain actions (such as trying to have sex with young children) they forfeit their right to not have certain actions committed against them- that is not to say that anyone is obligated to dish out these punitive actions (including the state), but when someone does, it is not immoral. Therefore, scaring, robbing, extorting and assaulting a man attempting to have sex with a child in exchange for not telling the police is not immoral.

ITA. People don't seem to realize that few things in life are black and white. It's all about context.

[odin_dax]

I'm going to assume you meant some things aren't black and white...

Anyway, you're wrong. Not only is robbery a crime, kidnapping a crime, assault a crime, extortion a crime, breaking the law is, according to Christians who taught to respect the law, it's a moral crime; thus. it's immoral. All religions have a code of ethics that would surely be against taking advantage of a pedophile.
In fact, for anyone, including atheists, it must also be immoral to do all these things. Taking advantage of a person's illness, although a very disgusting one, and then let the person go free to potentially harm more innocent children in order to keep the "prizes" can't be anything but immoral, if not worse! I would contend that it is worse.

Yeah, not immoral in the least. I'm sure I could argue more ways than those two.

[Esophagus]

Amen.

[Scamula]

I'm going to assume you meant some things aren't black and white...

Anyway, you're wrong. Not only is robbery a crime, kidnapping a crime, assault a crime, extortion a crime, breaking the law is, according to Christians who taught to respect the law, it's a moral crime; thus. it's immoral. All religions have a code of ethics that would surely be against taking advantage of a pedophile.
In fact, for anyone, including atheists, it must also be immoral to do all these things. Taking advantage of a person's illness, although a very disgusting one, and then let the person go free to potentially harm more innocent children in order to keep the "prizes" can't be anything but immoral, if not worse! I would contend that it is worse.

Yeah, not immoral in the least. I'm sure I could argue more ways than those two.

Yes, that is what I meant. It was late and i was tired. :biggrin:

I agree that it is better to turn the suckers over to the po po if you do manage to set 'em up because if you don't, then they'll just continue doing what they're doing.

[Scamula]

Amen.

Melodies from heaven,
rain down on me,
rain down on me,
fill me with your precious Holy Ghost
rain down on me
rain down me.

[Esophagus]

Exactly, so its not only better to turn them in, its just plain wrong not to turn them in after setting them up. Theres really no plus sides to letting them off other than petty, and selfish, personal gain.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Anyway, you're wrong. Not only is robbery a crime, kidnapping a crime, assault a crime, extortion a crime, breaking the law is, according to Christians who taught to respect the law, it's a moral crime; thus. it's immoral.
A. I'm not a christian, therefore christian moral codes do not apply to me.(in my opinion)
B. Just because something is a crime does not make it immoral, and if you disagree then you are a complete and utter moron. years ago it was a crime to have sex outside of marriage, does that make it immoral? no. Its illegal to J-walk, does that make it immoral? no. It used to be illegal for a black man to marry a white woman. does that make it immoral? no. It's illegal to drive too fast in your car. immoral? no. Slavery used to be perfectly legal. does that make it moral? no. Need I go on?

All religions have a code of ethics that would surely be against taking advantage of a pedophile.In fact, for anyone, including atheists, it must also be immoral to do all these things.
Nonsense, it only depends on the individual's interpretation of that code of ethics, some ethical codes call for the death of those who break the law, others for other punishments, but since I do not subscribe to any religious set of ethics, none of them apply (or so I believe). Now, I do not feel that taking advantage of a pedophile is a moral thing to do, but I also dont feel it is immoral, and you cannot prove that it is, considering that there aren't really any universal moral principles (unless you count Kantian maxims or existentialist ideas, which I will be happy to discuss with you, and which, I feel, would support the punishing of pedophiles in such a fashion)- I can also, though I do not feel this way per se, construe this action to be moral in that, by taking advantage of a pedophile this one time, whoever did has stopped at least one act of child molestation from taking place, and has also, maybe, scared the pedophile a great deal, so much so that he may in fact stop doing it (of course, that probably is not the case, he will most likely keep on doing what he is doing, but he will indeed think long and hard about it before he does- he has been taught a lesson, and a justly deserved one at that.)
As for an ethical code supporting this sort of action, I would say that Immanuel Kant's Categorical Imperative stating "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law," supports it because, what this maxim means is essentially that one should only act in such a way that they would will that act to be done by everyone. To apply it I put myself into the pedophiles shoes. If I were the pedophile, I would be very greatful that someone decided to beat me up and rob me rather than turn me into the police. Therefore, doing this to a pedophile can be construed as moral because, if in the pedophiles shoes, almost everyone would rather that the baiter beat them up/rob them than turn them into the police. Now, for clarification, I do not necessarily hold this belief to be true, in that I dont feel that baiting a pedophile necessarily has any morally redeeming features, I'm just giving an example of an ethical code that might support this sort of action.

Taking advantage of a person's illness, although a very disgusting one, and then let the person go free to potentially harm more innocent children in order to keep the "prizes" can't be anything but immoral, if not worse! I would contend that it is worse.
A disease? you need to back that claim up buddy. Pedophilia is not a disease, its a personal choice and a preference- or if one is indeed born with the urge to have sex with children, its not societys' problem, and they have the responsibilty of not doing what society considers to be immoral/ illegal unless they are prepared to deal with the repurcussions of committing such an act, whether those repurcussions are administered by the state or citizens is irrelevant, as long as the punishments in question were forseeable to the pedophile (which they were), and are within some form of reason (meaning short of killing, maiming, causing permanent physical damage etc.). If you want to call it a disease, then you must explain how homosexuality is not a disease(note- I am not calling homosexuality a disease, nor am I morally equating it to pedophilia), considering that both affect one's sexual preference, you cannot call one a disease and not the other, considering both are counter-productive to humanity as a whole (in that homosexuality is counter-productive to procreation, and tends to spread disease, and pedophilia because small children are not physically fit enough to have sex with full-grown men, and will most likeley be emotionally scarred). The only difference I see is that one (homosexuality) is (mostly) socially acceptable, whereas the other (pedophilia) is not. However, if you were to go back to ancient greece, you would find that pedophilic relationships between men and boys were quite common, and socially accepted. Its all about what society considers acceptable, calling it a disease is bullshit and I feel it harms society because it implies that pedophiles are not responsible for their actions and should be "treated" rather than punished. By taking away the individual's responsibilty for his/her own chosen actions you are doing a disservice to humanity by saying that we are not in control of what we do (or at least some people aren't), and you are also removing what gives us our dignity.
As for letting him go to do it again... by saying that one is immoral for doing this, you are putting the responsibility of one person's actions upon another person, which is complete bullshit- If he chooses not to learn from the lesson he has been taught, that is his fault, not the fault of the person who scammed him- in legal terms it is called a superceding act, meaning that the pedophile's future, independant, and criminal acts are not the responsibility of anyone but himself. people in a society are not obligated to turn criminals into the police, and not doing so is not immoral.
Also, by saying that it is immoral not to turn him in, and in turn immoral to commit acts of imprisonment, theft and battery upon him, you are implying that the only moral executioners of punishments concerning breaches of the law/ morality are the police. For example- a friend of yours steals $50 dollars from you. According to your logic it would be immoral to give him a good punch in the face instead of turning him into the police.Now, being reasonable, would you actually turn your friend into the police, or would you just give him a good punch in the face and then probably not talk to him for a while? certainly, the police and other members of the executive branch of government (in america) are the only legal executioners of the law (in this case that is), but that does not mean they are only ones who can apply punishments morally. If the pedophile were to be arrested he would be kidnapped(legally of course, but its the same essential act), imprisoned, robbed (the state would most likely appropriate his property, not robbery, but still the same loss of property), and assaulted (pedophiles dont get treated too well in prison). You are saying that inflicting upon him these acts in a much lesser extent than the state would is immoral simply because the state is not doing it. I dont see how giving less of the same exact punishments is immoral, and I dont feel that the state is the only entity that can morally dish out these punishments
Yeah, not immoral in the least. I'm sure I could argue more ways than those two.

then you better start, considering those 2 arguments are utter bullshit.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Exactly, so its not only better to turn them in, its just plain wrong not to turn them in after setting them up. Theres really no plus sides to letting them off other than petty, and selfish, personal gain.

Yes it probably is better to turn them in, however, as I said above, its not neccessarily wrong not to turn them in- you need to provide reasons for why it is wrong. Also, you and I disagree on the merits of personal gain. I feel that personal gain, is, as long as done in a way that does not harm innocent people, almost always a good thing. I would agree with you that it is certainly selfish, however I disagree that selfishness is necessarily a bad thing- The fact is, everything that everyone does all the time is selfish, with maybe the one exception of giving ones life to save another- but even that can be construed as selfish. I say this because, since everything that everyone does is by choice, and since people always choose what they perceive to be in their own best interest (whether they are right or wrong about this is another story), everything they do is an attempt to better their own situation, which is the definition of selfishness.
As for petty, well i guess that would depend on how much one gained from the situation.

[Esophagus]

Odin was right. Its petty because all he got was a camera and a small portion of money. It is wrong becasue they will do it again if you dont turn them in, and beating the shit out of a guy and blackmailing him, no matter what his problem, is wrong.

[odin_dax]

Since you're not Christian, it wouldn't be any good to tell you about respecting the law from a moral perspective, but one can argue that someone shouldn't take an action that he is not prepared to suffer the consequences of. Driving too fast? Well, that can lead to all sorts of accidents. Of course, in your rebuttal, you never did say if you thought blackmail or any of the other crimes I stated related to this thread are moral or not.

Furthermore, I never said pedophiles shouldn't be punished for their actions, disease or not. It is a disease, however, and people who engage in the act are obviously sick. Why do I have to back it up? You make the claim contrary to popular belief in psychology that pedophilia isn't a disease. Also, why do I have to prove anything about homosexuality? I made no claims on the subject, and you also don't know my stance on the matter. You can't assume in an argument, and topics unrelated to this thread are pretty much considered "straw men."

As for the friend stealing $50, why the false dichotomy? Better yet, let's ask why he stole the $50 in the first place. Maybe he needs it to pay rent or maybe he was going to pay me back without me knowing when he could. A what if question in most arguments actually harm the point being made, as it did here.

Because you disagree, that doesn't make my arguments bullshit. In fact, you've barely countered mine except to say all morals aren't universal, which is utter nonsense. We have laws. We have laws written by the influence of moral laws. Most of our laws are directly because of Christian influence. And if you're going to argue that certain morals differ from person to person, you're going to have to convince me two wrongs make a right, and explain why you think extortion, kidnapping, etc are morally the right thing.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Since you're not Christian, it wouldn't be any good to tell you about respecting the law from a moral perspective, but one can argue that someone shouldn't take an action that he is not prepared to suffer the consequences of. Driving too fast? Well, that can lead to all sorts of accidents. Of course, in your rebuttal, you never did say if you thought blackmail or any of the other crimes I stated related to this thread are moral or not.
Actually I did address that issue a few posts up when I was talking about how its is the context in which actions are committed that give them moral value, not the actions themselves.
but one can argue that someone shouldn't take an action that he is not prepared to suffer the consequences of.
I explicitly stated that above. read more carefully.


Furthermore, I never said pedophiles shouldn't be punished for their actions, disease or not. It is a disease, however, and people who engage in the act are obviously sick. Why do I have to back it up? You make the claim contrary to popular belief in psychology that pedophilia isn't a disease. Also, why do I have to prove anything about homosexuality? I made no claims on the subject, and you also don't know my stance on the matter. You can't assume in an argument, and topics unrelated to this thread are pretty much considered "straw men."
You missed the point entirely. I wasnt saying you should call homosexuality a diseaese, and I wasnt implying thats what you think. I was simply saying that if pedophilia were a disease then it would also logically follow that homosexuality is as well, considering that only significant difference between the two is that one is socially acceptable and the other is not, which is not grounds to constitute something a disease. As for it being the popular trend in psychology to call pedophilia disease... its also popular to call drug addiction, alcoholism, bulemia etc. diseases, even though there is no objective proof or evidence that they are. if you think it is widely accepted that these things are diseases, then you are wrong and need to stop reading nothing but ultra-liberal garbage (the stuff on the right is garbage too, but the issues youre talking about stem from liberals who want to call everything diseases and make nobody responisible for their actions.)
As for oyu needing to back it up- there is no evidence in psychology to suggest that pedophilia is a disease- it is merely an opinion, and a poorly founded one at that.
Oh, and it wasnt a straw man argument you idiot. If, as it turns out, my analogy between pedophil;ia and homosexuality is indeed faulty (which is what you would need to demonstrate) it would make it a "faulty analogy" which is not a "straw man." A straw man argument would be for me to phrase your argument in such a way that it is impossible to defend. such as " I'm sure the pedophiles would agree with you that pedo-baiting is immoral."- that is a straw man argument. You should use a dictionary before you spout off terms.

Because you disagree, that doesn't make my arguments bullshit. In fact, you've barely countered mine except to say all morals aren't universal, which is utter nonsense. We have laws. We have laws written by the influence of moral laws. Most of our laws are directly because of Christian influence. And if you're going to argue that certain morals differ from person to person, you're going to have to convince me two wrongs make a right, and explain why you think extortion, kidnapping, etc are morally the right thing.

Thats exactly what PrincessofScam would say. Its npot just that I disagree with your arguments, despite what you say, I did counter all of your arguments and I provided sound reasons, examples, and explanations for the positions I offered, which you haven't done. And why do you insist that just because a law derives from christian morals that somehow makes it moral? There is absolutely nothing about law that is at all related to morality. They are two entirely separate fields. And, like I said numerous times earlier, which you apparently havent been paying attention to, I specifically said that I dont think extortion, kidnapping etc. are morally right, I simply said that in this specific context, they are not morally wrong. Laws are designed to protect innocent people. When someone breaks a law, and in this case a big law, they forfeit certain rights, in this case protection from robbery, extortion, assault etc. - I can prove they forfeit these rights because that is was they forfeit upon being arrested/convicted for the same crime, ergo I dont believe it is immoral for this same(but lesser) punishment to be administered by a private citizen rather than the state.
And I dont have to explain why two wrongs make a right. As I carefully laid out above and in my above posts, in this case the actions of robbery, assault, extortion etc. are not immoral, therefore they are not "wrongs" and therefore are not applicable to your "two wrongs dont make a right."
As for you saying there are universal morals- prove it. This phrase: " We have laws. We have laws written by the influence of moral laws. Most of our laws are directly because of Christian influence." does absolutely nothing to prove your point. That statement only applys to laws in western europe and america. In china, the laws stem from communist moral codes. In india they are from hindu moral codes. In the middle east they stem from islamic moral codes. All of these codes contradict eachother on numerous different issues. For example- in communist countries it is considered moral and legal to execute someone for their political beliefs- this belife doesnt carry over into the western judeo-christian world, but it does, to an extent into the muslim world. Another example- in countries with muslim moral codes it is moral and legal to pray some-odd times a day to allah, but go over to a communist country and try to do that and you will be labeled immoral and may be arrested. For you to prove that there are universal morals, you have to show me at least one moral principle that transcends cultural and geographic boundaries. AS I said above, one of the few that may do that is Kant's categorical imperative, but since I dont necessarily hold that belief to be true, I dont consider it valid. (this is because that imperative relies upon kant's earlier duty-based philosophy, which I dont 100% agree with.)

Odin was right. Its petty because all he got was a camera and a small portion of money. It is wrong becasue they will do it again if you dont turn them in, and beating the shit out of a guy and blackmailing him, no matter what his problem, is wrong.

YEs it was petty, but jsut because somethings petty doesnt make it wrong. I addressed why I dont think it is wrong because he might do it again- and on that same note saying "he will do it again" is inocrrect because you have no evidence that he has ever done it once. maybe "he will try to do it again" would be acceptable- but even so the moral pitfalls of such action lie on the pedophile himself, not on the person who beat him up, told him not to do it again, then let him go. And beating the shit out of a guy and blackmailing him is not wrong no matter what. For example- someone breaks into your house. According to your logic it would then be immoral to beat the shit out of him and then kick him out, even though it would be perfectly legal to do so.(hell, in CA, where I live, if somebody breaks into your house you are allowed to kill them no questions asked.) note- I am not saying that kicking the shit out someone and blackmailing him is morally right, Im just refuting your statement that it is always morally wrong, which is nonsense, unless you are gandhi who believed that the Jews that fought the Nazis to get out of concentration camps in WWII were immoral for using violence.(<--- straw man) There are times when using violence and underhanded techniques to further a purpose are morally permissible. such as- self-defense, retribution/revenge, protection of property, war, etc. now, I dont think you believe this, Im just saying you should be careful when you use the term "no matter what."

[AnemicFairy]

I'm always rather weirded out by this hysterical pedo witch hunt thing, and even more so when I see it here. I mean, here you have a whole message board full of self-admitted criminals and scam artists, but they still feel morally righteous enough to point fingers at pedos. Very weird.

Apparently most people here do not even now what a pedo is to begin with. For one thing, an adult male with a sexual interest in teenaged girls is by definition NOT a pedo. In fact, the vast majority of adult males are sexually interested in teenaged girls, whether they like to admit that or not. And until very recently, all of society accepted it as normal and natural.

It is rather ironic that on a message board like this, where everyone seems to like to think of themselves as being original thinkers who do not just follow society's mores, in fact do just that: mindlessly follow the latest hysterical witch hunt dreamed up by the popular media.

Well folks, I am a 'pedo.' I think 13 year-old boys are the sexiest things alive. If opportunity and a willing boy present themselves, I will certainly go for it. Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys.

And there ain't a thing you can do about it, is there?

[odin_dax]

Nothing important"

Basically, all that spouting off said nothing. In fact, I appreciate the name calling. Thank you. Also, I do know what a straw man fallacy is and your example was not correct.

Anemic was totally right, too. There is nothing new under the sun. Nobody here is revolutionary. Being contrary isn't revolutionary.

Bringing up the issue of homosexuality and what if's also was very pointless. You're asking me to compare two different subjects and treat them in certain ways only your perspective can comprehend. You don't know my stance on both issues, so you can't tell me what to think or how I should think. As for the what if, I addressed that issue.

Now, if you want to go on spouting positions from Richard Green, then go ahead. In fact, Green was wrong about homosexuality being removed from abnormal psychology, and has even admitted that. Psychologists will change their positions on many gray issues. Depends who's on what board and when, their views on politics.

Pedophilia is a disease. Of course, that may vary depending on the definition, because that varies widely.

This thread has gotten out of control. I know we won't agree, and you can reconstruct all my arguments to suit yours or come up with more random shit, so let's leave it at that. You somehow think it's morally okay to rip off pedos and release them back into the public. Anemic is right... It is hypocritical.

Case closed here.

[Scamula]

I'm always rather weirded out by this hysterical pedo witch hunt thing, and even more so when I see it here. I mean, here you have a whole message board full of self-admitted criminals and scam artists, but they still feel morally righteous enough to point fingers at pedos. Very weird.

Apparently most people here do not even now what a pedo is to begin with. For one thing, an adult male with a sexual interest in teenaged girls is by definition NOT a pedo. In fact, the vast majority of adult males are sexually interested in teenaged girls, whether they like to admit that or not. And until very recently, all of society accepted it as normal and natural.

It is rather ironic that on a message board like this, where everyone seems to like to think of themselves as being original thinkers who do not just follow society's mores, in fact do just that: mindlessly follow the latest hysterical witch hunt dreamed up by the popular media.

Well folks, I am a 'pedo.' I think 13 year-old boys are the sexiest things alive. If opportunity and a willing boy present themselves, I will certainly go for it. Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys.

And there ain't a thing you can do about it, is there?

You have a point Anemic you really do. With all of the scheming and scamming that I do, I didn't say jack shit about Princess' 22 year old boyfriend when everyone else was laughing at them and making wisecracks. Why? I don't follow society's laws myself. Besides, in a couple of years she'll be a legal adult so whatever. I don't consider her a child. I may use the name "pedo" but technically a pedo is an adult who does children...if princess were 9 or 10, then I'd have harsher words for her boyfriend even though I am a shoplifter.

Either way, I am not too against the pedo baiting scheme. In the words of Whitney Houston, it's not right but it's okay. Both parties are selfishly looking for something so may the best hustler win. I am not a fan of fucking people too much younger than you but I am also not a fan of anchovies.

[REL0AD]

I didn't say jack shit about Princess' 22 year old boyfriend when everyone else was laughing at them and making wisecracks. Why? I don't follow society's laws myself. Besides, in a couple of years she'll be a legal adult so whatever. I don't consider her a child.

Up here he'd be kneecapped down there it's ok sorta thing? That what you all mean?

You shoplift from my store I do the same to yours, rather than you shoplift from my store I hunt you down n torture you?

He wants sex with a teen, you have sex with his teen rather than blackmail him etc.

That what your all getting at or simply turn him in?

You gotta remember people theres folks on here of lower intelligence than yourselves :help:

Appologies.

Well folks, I am a 'pedo.' I think 13 year-old boys are the sexiest things alive. If opportunity and a willing boy present themselves, I will certainly go for it. Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys.

Isn't that the same as saying you like guns and you wanna go on a rampage and if the oppurtunity arises and you have access to a firearm you'll 'go for it'?

How can you get away with saying that on a public forum?

Rorta Junior
I've been here since day fucking dot. Fuck that pisses me off.

[AnemicFairy]

Isn't that the same as saying you like guns and you wanna go on a rampage and if the oppurtunity arises and you have access to a firearm you'll 'go for it'?

How can you get away with saying that on a public forum?


By using a pseudonym. Since you don't know who I really am, and I likely don't even live on the same continent as you, there's not much you can do about it.

I find it sort of peculiar that you compare romantic relationships with mass murder. You must be American or British: they are the only folks who are THAT sex-phobic. And they are that way because their lives are ruled by TV and other popular media.

[AnemicFairy]

Either way, I am not too against the pedo baiting scheme.

Neither am I, as surprising as that may sound. I am quite amoral, and seeing as pedos are at present a particularly vulnerable group and can be quite easily blackmailed, it makes economic sense to target them, just as it makes sense to target illegal immigrants, and for the same reason: they basically do not really have any recourse to law. They are therefore relatively safe targets.

No, what kind of pissed me off was not that pedos get baited (I do not feel any particular sense of 'belonging' to the pedo group, any more than I feel I belong to any other group) but simply the tone of moral righteousness. Been quite a while since I have witnessed such hypocrisy anywhere outside of the Oval Office.

In the meantime, a word of advice to the pedo baiters. Yes, they are relatively safe because none of them dare make a legal case against you. But us pedo pervs also often have little to lose, precisely because we are already outside of society. If anyone baited ME, I would not have the slightest compunction whatsoever about killing him, simply because if I get exposed, my life is ruined anyway. I have little to lose.

The same goes with all other groups which find themselves in a similar position. Bait them long enough, and sooner or later your luck is going to run out quite spectacularly.

[REL0AD]

I find it sort of peculiar that you compare romantic relationships with mass murder. You must be American or British: they are the only folks who are THAT sex-phobic. And they are that way because their lives are ruled by TV and other popular media.

Yeah I am British, but I didn't compare nothing. I'm just trying to understand what you lot are on about, some people aren't as intelligent than others so sue me...

romantic relationships with mass murder

Sex and murder are come close to being in the same catergory for me, it hasn't nothing to do with where I were born or brought up though, I have simply have some mental health isses, again... sue me.

You must be American or British: they are the only folks who are THAT sex-phobic. And they are that way because their lives are ruled by TV and other popular media.

Thats like saying I commit street crime with no proof simply on the grounds that I have a shaved head and wear a cap.

There are plenty of British and American people on this board, not one of them have compared murder to romance.

You've just confused this whole thread for me some more :hitwithro

& I am not starting another argument I just want to understand whats being said. Don't bother calling me a thick cunt neither cause I admit I'm quite the dumbass but only because of the more than simple words your all using.

[AnemicFairy]

Yeah I am British, but I didn't compare nothing. I'm just trying to understand what you lot are on about, some people aren't as intelligent than others so sue me...

Not really sure what you want to know.


Sex and murder are come close to being in the same catergory for me, it hasn't nothing to do with where I were born or brought up though, I have simply have some mental health isses, again... sue me.

I suggest a shrink or some good dope. On second thoughts, forget the shrink.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Neither am I, as surprising as that may sound. I am quite amoral, and seeing as pedos are at present a particularly vulnerable group and can be quite easily blackmailed, it makes economic sense to target them, just as it makes sense to target illegal immigrants, and for the same reason: they basically do not really have any recourse to law. They are therefore relatively safe targets.

No, what kind of pissed me off was not that pedos get baited (I do not feel any particular sense of 'belonging' to the pedo group, any more than I feel I belong to any other group) but simply the tone of moral righteousness. Been quite a while since I have witnessed such hypocrisy anywhere outside of the Oval Office.

In the meantime, a word of advice to the pedo baiters. Yes, they are relatively safe because none of them dare make a legal case against you. But us pedo pervs also often have little to lose, precisely because we are already outside of society. If anyone baited ME, I would not have the slightest compunction whatsoever about killing him, simply because if I get exposed, my life is ruined anyway. I have little to lose.

The same goes with all other groups which find themselves in a similar position. Bait them long enough, and sooner or later your luck is going to run out quite spectacularly.


This is almost exactly the point I was trying to convey. I was not by any means trying to take a morally righteous stance- I even stated explicitly several times that I was not trying to do that, but maybe I didnt state it clearly enough considering you thought I was trying to place pedo-baiters higher up on the moral scale than pedophiles themselves. I also agree with you about you not having the slightest compunction about killing a pedo-baiter- they take that risk upon themselves when they commit such action. Essentially my point boils down to "do what you want, when you want, how you want, just be prepared to accept the consequences of what others will do if they dislike it, or be prepared to fight back"- the pedophile in this case was not prepared to fight back because he got too greedy for little girl pussy to stop and consider the fact that someone may very well be scamming him- he didnt prepare, he didnt think, he deserved what he got. Being stupid is not a reason that people shouldnt do bad things to you- if you dont like it, then you shouldnt be stupid. The biggest reason I was avoiding taking a morally righteous stance, however, is that I, like you, consider myself to be quite amoral, for example, I would have absolutely no problem selling booze to a bunch of people leaving an AA meeting, i mean, if they cant control their chosen problem, I dont feel it is wrong for me to take advantage of it.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Basically, all that spouting off said nothing. In fact, I appreciate the name calling. Thank you. Also, I do know what a straw man fallacy is and your example was not correct.

Anemic was totally right, too. There is nothing new under the sun. Nobody here is revolutionary. Being contrary isn't revolutionary.

Bringing up the issue of homosexuality and what if's also was very pointless. You're asking me to compare two different subjects and treat them in certain ways only your perspective can comprehend. You don't know my stance on both issues, so you can't tell me what to think or how I should think. As for the what if, I addressed that issue.

Now, if you want to go on spouting positions from Richard Green, then go ahead. In fact, Green was wrong about homosexuality being removed from abnormal psychology, and has even admitted that. Psychologists will change their positions on many gray issues. Depends who's on what board and when, their views on politics.

Pedophilia is a disease. Of course, that may vary depending on the definition, because that varies widely.



Look- first, I wasnt trying to be revlutionary- actually I was trying to be quite un-revolutionary, I was just using principles tht I view (I recognize that this is solely opinion) as common sense. I was laying things out as simply as I could (though I realize that I do tend to get extremely wordy)- but I have no problem that you disagree with me, I simply enjoy arguing.
Also- once again you missed the point of the homosexuality analogy- despite what you sy, it is a valid comparison, and you havent shown why it is not, youve just said it isnt a few times without providing reason for why you consider it irrelevant.
As for pedophlia being a disease, well, I guess you're right, it does depend on the definition you use, but I can only see pedophilia fitting into the figurative definition of the word (e.g. "pedophilia is a disease upon society.")- whcih means more of a social disgust with it rather than an actual medical condition. I was debating that pedophilia is a legitimate disease caused by a medical condition (such as bipolar, schizophrenia etc.)- which it is not, and there is absolutely nothing to prove or even evidence otherwise.

[Scamula]

Up here he'd be kneecapped down there it's ok sorta thing? That what you all mean?

You shoplift from my store I do the same to yours, rather than you shoplift from my store I hunt you down n torture you?

He wants sex with a teen, you have sex with his teen rather than blackmail him etc.

That what your all getting at or simply turn him in?

You gotta remember people theres folks on here of lower intelligence than yourselves :help:

Appologies.





Um ok. I'm not sure that I totally understand your comment/ question. Basically Anemic was just saying who are we to come down on people over 18 who do people under 18 when we really are just a board of shoplifters and petty criminals ourselves? Either way, breaking the law is breaking the law. Not following society's mores is not following society's mores.

This thread is basically about pedo baiting (setting up and then blackmailing people who meet underage folk on the internet to have sex with). This scheme can be profitable and it can be dangerous as well. Some people think that the pedo baiters are just as bad as the pedos. Some, like me, say whatever and may the best hustler win. Some say that you should turn in the pedo after you bait him in so he won't do his crime again. Some don't care. This thread is just one big debate.

What I said about Princess is derived from another thread in which she mentioned that she's 15 and dating a 22 year old. People joked her out and called her bf a pedo. I personally don't think he's a pedo because pedo's have sex with actual children. A 15-16 year old is not a child in my eyes....I have a hard time seeing someone who can have children as a child. And in like 2 years she'll be legal anyway. It's not as if he's doing a 9 or 10 year old. And the fact is I'm a scam artist ....how can I come down on someone else who refuses to bow down to society's standards?

Sorry if I confused things for you.

[Scamula]

Neither am I, as surprising as that may sound. I am quite amoral, and seeing as pedos are at present a particularly vulnerable group and can be quite easily blackmailed, it makes economic sense to target them, just as it makes sense to target illegal immigrants, and for the same reason: they basically do not really have any recourse to law. They are therefore relatively safe targets.

No, what kind of pissed me off was not that pedos get baited (I do not feel any particular sense of 'belonging' to the pedo group, any more than I feel I belong to any other group) but simply the tone of moral righteousness. Been quite a while since I have witnessed such hypocrisy anywhere outside of the Oval Office.

In the meantime, a word of advice to the pedo baiters. Yes, they are relatively safe because none of them dare make a legal case against you. But us pedo pervs also often have little to lose, precisely because we are already outside of society. If anyone baited ME, I would not have the slightest compunction whatsoever about killing him, simply because if I get exposed, my life is ruined anyway. I have little to lose.

The same goes with all other groups which find themselves in a similar position. Bait them long enough, and sooner or later your luck is going to run out quite spectacularly.

I see what you're saying about the hypocrisy. And I've always told the baiters to be careful and to watch their asses. No matter how smooth you think you are, there's someone smoother. People don't like being hustled and they can turn pretty violent when they realize that they've been had. It's just like shoplifting in a way....rob a big company with lots to lose like walmart and they'll handle you safely in court if you get caught. Try and rob Apu, the illegal immigrant who owns a liquor store in the hood and you could get your head blown off. People who have nothing to lose are very dangerous indeed and they aren't freaked out by the laws that hold the rest of us in check. Step carefully if you want to milk this cow.

[Stone]

Well folks, I am a 'pedo.' I think 13 year-old boys are the sexiest things alive. If opportunity and a willing boy present themselves, I will certainly go for it. Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys.

And there ain't a thing you can do about it, is there?

By using a pseudonym. Since you don't know who I really am, and I likely don't even live on the same continent as you, there's not much you can do about it.

Not true...

I know your IP, the country you live in and the ISP that you use. With just this info I can send an email to the cops where you live and then we'll see how smug you are. I'm very tempted to be honest.

I am all for freedom of speech and stuff but there's a limit.

Why?

Because they're kids you fucking sick piece of shit. After being abused their lives are destroyed. They're denied the chance to grow up naturally just like other kids. Their life is stolen just to satisfy the sick needs of some insignificant shit. Maybe the insignificant shit is so ugly or socially inept that he can't get a girl (or guy) so he preys on the weak and vulnerable, kids.

I have a son, and I can tell ya I'd be devastated if anything of that sort happened to him. I wouldn't be going to the cops, I'd kill the pedo outright, torture him first though. Many people aren't capable of that though, and many times the pedo isn't caught. That's why everybody should take the responsability and do what they can to prevent a kids life being destroyed.

That is why I'm contemplating turning you in. I don't think I could live with myself knowing that I could do something to prevent a kid being put through that.

And don't bother deleting or editing your posts, 'cos it only soft-deletes. I can restore at the click of a button.

-------------------------------------------------

As for my view on the thread... I don't care if it's morally wrong to scam the pedo just like I don't care if you scam from ebay, or shoplift, etc. I do think he should have been turned in though.

He's still out there and can still fuck up some kids life. In my opinion, to let him go free was the wrong thing to do.

[Esophagus]

I'm always rather weirded out by this hysterical pedo witch hunt thing, and even more so when I see it here. I mean, here you have a whole message board full of self-admitted criminals and scam artists, but they still feel morally righteous enough to point fingers at pedos. Very weird.As stupid as a comparison between romance and mass murder is, how can you make fun of it and then compare shoplifting to sex with small children?

I am an immoral person, I think every human is on some level or another. And I have no problem with you saying you look at pictures of 13 year old boys. The internet gives every person access to this, and they can use it as they like, although I'm sure the way these pictures came to be is often disturbing. The pictures are there, and if thats what gets you off, then for christs sakes, get off to it! But acting on that is kind of the disturbing part.

Yes marrying/sleeping with a twelve year old has been considered socially acceptable for centuries. But thats a product of vast social differences. People jsut don't grow up as quick as they used to. A thirteen year old boy is considered a 'man' in many tribal societies, because he has earned that. He has been forced to think on the grounds of a man, and has been faced with decisions much like that of his adult peers. That jsut doesn't happen in our society. Children are children for as long as they can get away with, before something forces them to stand up and accept adulthood. So physically, yes, you may absolutely love those boys, but emotionally, they just aren't ready for you. Not to say that "they can't handle a relationship", in the sense that they can handle casual sex, they can't handle that either. Look at it as you wan't, but you are taking something precious, from someone very young, acting on those impulses.

[DoctaD]

For some unknown reason I am under the assumption that AnemicFairy is a teenage girl, making the statement about thirteen year old boys less than important.

[Stone]

Well folks, I am a 'pedo.' I think 13 year-old boys are the sexiest things alive. If opportunity and a willing boy present themselves, I will certainly go for it. Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys.

And there ain't a thing you can do about it, is there?

If anyone baited ME, I would not have the slightest compunction whatsoever about killing him, simply because if I get exposed, my life is ruined anyway. I have little to lose.

Doesn't sound like a teenage girl to me...

[headcase]

God forbid someone should lie on the internet, which appleies to this thread on so many levels.

[Esophagus]

That never happens. Whens the last time you saw someone lie on the internet?:bukkake:

[hatal]

That never happens. Whens the last time you saw someone lie on the internet?:bukkake:

Jumping jesus on a stick! People can lie? :aargh4:

[AnemicFairy]

Not true...

I know your IP, the country you live in and the ISP that you use. With just this info I can send an email to the cops where you live and then we'll see how smug you are. I'm very tempted to be honest.

Go ahead and make my day.

Tell me, what exactly do you think the police will charge me with? Seeing as

1. I have never so much as touched a boy in any inappropriate way; and
2. I do not possess any illegal child porn; and
3. Unlike you, I am not involved in any crime at all,

there isn't all that much they can do. If you really know which country I live in, you'll also know that around here, if nowhere else, it isn't illegal to be a pedo. It's only illegal to act on it. It is also illegal for police to harass people, and if they so much as look at me in any way I don't like, I'll sue the uniforms off their backs.

You'll perhaps also know that around here, the police is so incompetent that it is unlikely they could successfully prosecute me if I raped the president's grandson on the steps of the police headquarters.


Because they're kids you fucking sick piece of shit. After being abused their lives are destroyed. They're denied the chance to grow up naturally just like other kids. Their life is stolen just to satisfy the sick needs of some insignificant shit. Maybe the insignificant shit is so ugly or socially inept that he can't get a girl (or guy) so he preys on the weak and vulnerable, kids.

Who said anything about anyone 'preying' on anybody? I suggest that if you don't have a clue what you are talking about, you shut up. You are not achieving much more than looking stupid.

That is why I'm contemplating turning you in. I don't think I could live with myself knowing that I could do something to prevent a kid being put through that.

And don't bother deleting or editing your posts, 'cos it only soft-deletes. I can restore at the click of a button.

Go ahead. See if I'm scared of an arrogant, hypocritical little pathetoid like you.

I can only repeat: I have not broken any local laws, so there isn't all that much you or the local police can do to me. However, if I unexpectedly get a visit from local law enforcement, you can be very sure indeed that I will report this board and its activities to every major western police force and newspaper. Let's see who ends up worse off.

As for my view on the thread... I don't care if it's morally wrong to scam the pedo just like I don't care if you scam from ebay, or shoplift, etc. I do think he should have been turned in though.

He's still out there and can still fuck up some kids life. In my opinion, to let him go free was the wrong thing to do.

Alas, criminals and scam artists have no moral authority to tell the rest of us what is 'the wrong thing to do.' And no-one on this planet has fucked up more kids' lives than the moral thought police. I know this from rather harsh personal experience. So spare me the moral outrage, and spare me your ineffectual little threats. I'm not scared of petty criminals.

[Esophagus]

Well folks, I am a 'pedo.' I think 13 year-old boys are the sexiest things alive. If opportunity and a willing boy present themselves, I will certainly go for it. Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys.
So you were bluffing?

[AnemicFairy]

As stupid as a comparison between romance and mass murder is, how can you make fun of it and then compare shoplifting to sex with small children?

I am an immoral person, I think every human is on some level or another. And I have no problem with you saying you look at pictures of 13 year old boys. The internet gives every person access to this, and they can use it as they like, although I'm sure the way these pictures came to be is often disturbing. The pictures are there, and if thats what gets you off, then for christs sakes, get off to it! But acting on that is kind of the disturbing part.

Yes marrying/sleeping with a twelve year old has been considered socially acceptable for centuries. But thats a product of vast social differences. People jsut don't grow up as quick as they used to. A thirteen year old boy is considered a 'man' in many tribal societies, because he has earned that. He has been forced to think on the grounds of a man, and has been faced with decisions much like that of his adult peers. That jsut doesn't happen in our society. Children are children for as long as they can get away with, before something forces them to stand up and accept adulthood. So physically, yes, you may absolutely love those boys, but emotionally, they just aren't ready for you. Not to say that "they can't handle a relationship", in the sense that they can handle casual sex, they can't handle that either. Look at it as you wan't, but you are taking something precious, from someone very young, acting on those impulses.

And you are of course the expert on child psychology, and can tell all the rest of us what kids are or are not 'ready for.' I have news for you: when people reach early puberty, they become sexual beings, whether you like that or not. Hell, when I was about eleven, I had a rampantly sexual relationship with an adult, and it did me no harm. Would have done me a lot of harm if it had been discovered though; society's hysterical reaction invariably does more harm in these cases than any sex might have done.

But once again I find the arrogance and hypocrisy of petty criminals angrily pointing moral fingers at others absolutely breathtaking. Just who the fuck do you people think you are?

I can only shake my head in astonishment at people who think they are SO original and outside the box, but just mention sex and the American sex-phobic indoctrination kicks right in.

Anyway, I have largely said my piece. I found this board through some other website, and I cannot even remember from where anymore. Then I saw the pedo baiting thread, was amazed at the hypocrisy I saw in it, and felt compelled to respond.

But I don't object to pedo baiting, or any of your other petty little scams. By all means go ahead until you are caught, or until the compulsion to commit crime has burned itself out.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Anemic does have a point- He hasn't done anything even remotely illegal, Though his threats to report this board are equally empty (nobody here has done anything that the police can get us for- cept for maybe the pedo-baiting guy, but thats just one guy). Even if the police and/or media decided that the ravings of a person regarding a forum on the internet where he was insulted are worthy to look up on, they couldn't do a single thing to this board or the people on it. In fact, that may turn out to be a benefit due to the increased traffic that would most likely ensue. We can't do anything to you, and you sure as hell cant do anything to us- so why dont both of you just shut up with your threats.

On another note, who cares if he's a pedophile? I mean, assuming he's telling the truth about not acting on his urges(and I have no real evidence to the contrary), then there's no harm done- just because someone thinks about something a certain way doesn't make them immoral or whatever you want to call them, its their actions that do that.

[Stone]

Go ahead and make my day.

Tell me, what exactly do you think the police will charge me with?
Seeing as

1. I have never so much as touched a boy in any inappropriate way; and
2. I do not possess any illegal child porn; and
3. Unlike you, I am not involved in any crime at all,

From previous post:
Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys.

there isn't all that much they can do. If you really know which country I live in, you'll also know that around here, if nowhere else, it isn't illegal to be a pedo. It's only illegal to act on it.

You are mistaken. http://www.fpb.gov.za/child_pornography/information_booklets/child_porn_faq.asp

It is also illegal for police to harass people, and if they so much as look at me in any way I don't like, I'll sue the uniforms off their backs.

It wouldn't be harrassment. They would be acting on the information that you are in possession of illegal child porn. And, if they find none, they still have just cause to search because you admitted to it, fuckface.

You'll perhaps also know that around here, the police is so incompetent that it is unlikely they could successfully prosecute me if I raped the president's grandson on the steps of the police headquarters.

Maybe, maybe not. Still worth a shot.

Who said anything about anyone 'preying' on anybody? I suggest that if you don't have a clue what you are talking about, you shut up. You are not achieving much more than looking stupid.

Because that's what it is.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preying - One that is defenseless, especially in the face of attack; a victim.

You're the one looking stupid mate. You're spewing shit about laws and facts but you're wrong in each one.

Go ahead. See if I'm scared of an arrogant, hypocritical little pathetoid like you.

I'm arrogant? Read over your previous posts. Even the sentence where you call me arrogant is showing your arrogance.
And there ain't a thing you can do about it, is there?
Since you don't know who I really am, and I likely don't even live on the same continent as you, there's not much you can do about it.

Also, I would like you to show where I have been hypocritical please. If it's about criminal activitym, etc, then do show. I do not steal, scam, kill, assault, rape, whatever. The only thing I do that is actually illegal is take some drugs, and even that is very rare. Also fyi, pathetoid isn't a word.

I can only repeat: I have not broken any local laws, so there isn't all that much you or the local police can do to me.

As I have already shown, possession of child porn in your country is illegal.

However, if I unexpectedly get a visit from local law enforcement, you can be very sure indeed that I will report this board and its activities to every major western police force and newspaper. Let's see who ends up worse off.

Be my guest. Please. More publicity for us. Me and the rest of the admins are breaking no laws by keeping Rorta up. And if the police come asking for the IP's of members of the board we will them to fuck off. If they go to our hosting company to request the IP's they will also be told to fuck off, albeit maybe in a nicer manner. D'ya think we'd pick a host that will get us in trouble?

Alas, criminals and scam artists have no moral authority to tell the rest of us what is 'the wrong thing to do.'

I'm not a criminal or a scam artist and this has nothing to do with moral authority.

And no-one on this planet has fucked up more kids' lives than the moral thought police.

Are they the same guys from Minority Report?

I know this from rather harsh personal experience. So spare me the moral outrage, and spare me your ineffectual little threats.

Hell, when I was about eleven, I had a rampantly sexual relationship with an adult, and it did me no harm. Would have done me a lot of harm if it had been discovered though; society's hysterical reaction invariably does more harm in these cases than any sex might have done.

So you got raped as a kid, and it might have done you some psychological damage. It hasn't you say? But usually people with psychological problems can't see that they have them. Have you seen a shrink or gotten a professional opinion? So, because it was done to you, you think it's alright to do it to other kids? Was thinking that it was acceptable your way of dealing with it?

Have you ever read any reports on child sex abuse and how it actually fucks the child up for life? Here in Ireland it's been all over the news for the last few years because priests abused young boys. Some of the abused got over the ordeal after a few years and began to live normal lives. Others were never able to get over it. I have seen and read countless interviews on the tv and in the newspaper from victims of child sex abuse.

And you can talk about the fact that in Ancient Rome and other civilisations that little girls got married at the age of 12 and in other civilisations when you reached the age of 12 you were considered a man, etc. But the difference is, that was thousands of years ago. Human civilisation has changed. Childhood lasts alot longer now than it used to. And as I'm sure you know, a 12 year old kid isn't able to make the same rational decision as an adult. That is why it is illegal for kids to drink, smoke, have sex, etc. Because they are not old enough to make the decision for themselves and are easily pressured by others.

[Esophagus]

*claps*

Anemic, youre just full of yourself. I've said already that if you don't act on your impulses, then so be it. All the power to you, not much you can do to stop your self from liking what you like. Its the guys who do act on it that are assholes. So stop getting so god damn defensive, I'm pretty sure everyone here has said that. And yes, I think we could get the police to look into you, but no, no one has any intention of doing it. Good luck getting anyone on the forum into trouble. In fact, goodl uck getting every police force andnewspaper to listen to your calls of "I've discovered a forum full of people pulling small scams". Because 99% of them wouldn't listen to you. The 1% who did would find that the only things even worth looking into have their tracks covered. If they wanted to arrest a pedo baiter who didn't bait a pedo, and a bunch of teenagers who take drugs and shoplift from walmart, all the power to me. They might as well arrest me, they've already wasted enough resources.

[AnemicFairy]

Well, apparently people here have a bit of trouble reading. Hence all the accusations of kiddie porn against me.

Let me quote myself:

"Oh, and I already possess a HUGE collection of pictures of cute and sexy boys."

Now, can someone point out which bit of that sentence implies illegal child porn?

Of course, I was naughty; I deliberately posted that sentence, and exactly what I thought would happen, happened: everyone simply assumed that I was talking about illegal porn. After all, pedos are by definition the most evil scum imaginable, right? Surely we all know that, right?

Well, pointless argument. As has been well demonstrated by messages here, our mutual threats are all essentially empty, and are simply for entertainment. As I also knew would happen (I have seen it happen on many other message boards before), it is now assumed that my pleasant, fun relationship with an older man when I was a boy was in fact me being a victim. Yup, if I were to say I was a victim of child abuse, that proves I was a victim. And if I claim I wasn't abused and enjoyed it, that ALSO proves I was a victim. Impeccable logic, huh?

That is the irony of it. You folks think you are SO out of the box and original and independent-minded. But when it comes right down to it, you too simply mindlessly regurgitate whatever you read in the popular media.

Hey, I'm not just an evil pedo. I am also a Satanist. Ya know what? In my religion, there is only one truly mortal sin, and that is stupidity. I appear to have stumbled upon a board of sinners here...

Well, have fun. Pedos often have lots of money seeing as they are often not married. They make easy victims for petty little scams. I am sure you are all very proud of the lives you make for yourselves. I wish you luck; you are probably sooner or later going to need it.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Holy crap Stone! I think his house just collapsed around his ears and ya should report the motherfucker for the kiddie porn. Sick South African fuck!

[ComfortablyNumb]

That is the irony of it. You folks think you are SO out of the box and original and independent-minded. But when it comes right down to it, you too simply mindlessly regurgitate whatever you read in the popular media.

Hey, I'm not just an evil pedo. I am also a Satanist. Ya know what? In my religion, there is only one truly mortal sin, and that is stupidity. I appear to have stumbled upon a board of sinners here...


Dont include all of us when you say something like this. Even so, I dont think anybody was trying to be out-of-the-box or original (except maybe for my defense of pedo-bating, but Im on oyur side on that issue...), so I dont really see where you get off saying it. You came here and picked a fight with some people (whether you did it intentionally or not is irrelevant). Just relax- if you dont want them to attack you for being a pedophile, you shouldnt have said anything about it. Whether or not pedophilia is wrong or not is completely irrelevant- it is a common fact that pedophiles are not well-accepted by society, so you, Mr. Common Sense Genius, shouldn't be so stupid as to come to a board, tell everyone you're a pedophile, and then get all offended and defensive when they attack you for it- a little thought could have easily revealed that that would happen- which would make you the sinner of your own nonsensical religion. (Although, if your purpose was to come here and argue, and if you derive pleasure from arguing, as I do, then what I just said doesn't apply.)

[Stone]

Hey, I'm not just an evil pedo. I am also a Satanist. Ya know what? In my religion, there is only one truly mortal sin, and that is stupidity. I appear to have stumbled upon a board of sinners here...

Read the Eleven Rules of the Earth lately? (For the rest of ye, it's the satanist equivalent of the Christian 10 Commandments._
#9. Do not harm little children.

Also, to quote Magus Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest:
Finally, since certain people try to suggest that our attitude on sexuality is ?anything goes? despite our stated base principle of ?responsibility to the responsible,? we must reiterate another fundamental dictate: The Church of Satan?s philosophy strictly forbids sexual activity with children as well as with non-human animals. Any members who engage in such abusive activities can consider themselves expelled. Our standards are liberal, but we see the need for clearly defined limits which are meant to protect those who cannot give informed consent. The Church of Satan has represented this position to the public for over 35 years.

Fuckface... Now you can see you're stupid too. Your out!

[AnemicFairy]

Whether or not pedophilia is wrong or not is completely irrelevant- it is a common fact that pedophiles are not well-accepted by society, so you, Mr. Common Sense Genius, shouldn't be so stupid as to come to a board, tell everyone you're a pedophile, and then get all offended and defensive when they attack you for it-

Oh, the attacks do not bother me. I'm quite used to that. I am much more bemused by the sheer hypocrisy.

I do not of course mean to imply that literally every single one of the people here are stupid. That is not necessarily the case. But original thinkers all my attackers are not, since they simply mindlessly regurgitate notions about the issue that you find in the popular media. The findings of actual scientific research on this issue can be quite a bit different from what you read in the newspaper or see on TV. I would know: I have read it. Few others seem to have bothered, so they simply repeat what 'everybody knows.'

Anyway, all the angry responses are interesting in themselves. It is a well-known phenomenon that people imprisoned for sexual offenses against children often get assaulted, even killed, in prison by other inmates. I have always found it very weird that criminals can have this moral code thing, whereby they seem to try to redeem themselves by identifying and attacking those who are presumably even more evil than they themselves are. Apparently attacking pedos make them feel better about whatever it is that they themselves did. Of course, extreme hatred of pedos often can also be a sign of repressed pedophilic feelings in the hater.

All things considered, I have found the reactions I saw here interesting, although my cynicism about humanity has turned up a notch.

[AnemicFairy]

Read the Eleven Rules of the Earth lately? (For the rest of ye, it's the satanist equivalent of the Christian 10 Commandments._
#9. Do not harm little children.

I quite agree on this point. Children are in fact the only subset of humanity for which I still feel any sympathy at all. But tell me, in which message of mine did you get the impression that I have harmed, or intend to harm, any children? How exactly do you define 'child' anyway? We might even largely be in agreement on almost everything, but you wouldn't know, because your hatred of 'pedos' (what exactly does that term really mean to you?) has blinded you.

Let me put it to you that your hatred of me is largely artificial. You don't know me, and you do not have much of an idea of what I might or might not do. What you do need though is someone on which to project all your general anger and frustration. I am currently a scapegoat whom it is socially acceptable to loathe with a completely blind sort of hatred. You can lash out at me without any scruples at all. If you found me, and slowly tortured me to death, and displayed my mutilated corpse to the world, most of the world would actually support you and consider you something of a hero.

I think this is why you find me such a convenient target for all your anger. Which is why I made my remark about the people here actually being utterly conventional in their outlook. You may think you are very bohemian, but from where I am standing, I simply see more of the same old society that I have grown up with.

Also, to quote Magus Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest:
"Finally, since certain people try to suggest that our attitude on sexuality is ?anything goes? despite our stated base principle of ?responsibility to the responsible,? we must reiterate another fundamental dictate: The Church of Satan?s philosophy strictly forbids sexual activity with children as well as with non-human animals. Any members who engage in such abusive activities can consider themselves expelled. Our standards are liberal, but we see the need for clearly defined limits which are meant to protect those who cannot give informed consent. The Church of Satan has represented this position to the public for over 35 years."

Fuckface... Now you can see you're stupid too. Your out!

I am well aware of the Church of Satan's opinion on this. However, while I broadly agree on much of what they say, I am not a member of the church, so they do not speak for me. That they would publicly oppose sex with minors does not surprise me in the least. They know where their bread is buttered. Perhaps they even mean it, but note that Gilmore's opinion simply ASSUMES that all sex with 'minors' (whatever exactly a 'minor' is, since it differs depending which country you are in) is inherently harmful. He does not present any evidence to support this notion. He too simply regurgitates the popular view.

But this is not surprising, since the CoS has never once, in all their illustrious history, really stood up for the full implications of their own views. Their official policy documents, like inevitably happens in all churches, are a mass of internal contradictions and blatant nonsense. Which is why I am not a member of their church, or any other.

However, I broadly agree with their views on human nature, and its implications for the individual.

[Esophagus]

That is the irony of it. You folks think you are SO out of the box and original and independent-minded. But when it comes right down to it, you too simply mindlessly regurgitate whatever you read in the popular media.Something tells me if it was never brought up in the media, I'd still have a problem with a grown man/woman overly enjoying little children.

[headcase]

When has it ever been brought up in the media? I don't remember any cases where paedophiles have been demonised. Rapists, maybe, but that's a whole other story.

[Esophagus]

Yeah, all I could think of was a couple episodes of law and order. But they demonize everything at all illegal. "You say one of our suspects shoplifted when he was eleven? Hes definitely the murderer."

[DIzzIE]

May 14, 2007 11:31 pm US/Eastern

MySpace Meet Up Turns Into Robbery At Gunpoint
(WBZ) GARDNER You could say it was a rendezvous gone terribly wrong for one man who attempted to meet up with a teen he found on a popular social networking Web site.

The victim was planning to meet an 18-year-old woman he found on MySpace.com. They were supposed to find each other behind Dunn's Pond in Gardner on Saturday. Instead of meeting the young woman when he arrived at the pond around 1:30 a.m., the victim told police he was confronted by two men who robbed him at gunpoint.

The thieves nabbed the victim's cash, cell phone, cigarettes and iPod. He was then ordered to walk deep into the woods, so the robbers would have time to escape.

Police are now trying to figure out who the woman in the photo is that was used to lure the victim to the pond.

According to information from MySpace, the girl's name is Erica and she is believed to live somewhere near the robbery, police say.


(? MMVII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)
(wbztv.com/topstories/local_story_134190552.html)

May 18, 2007 9:36 am US/Eastern

Police Arrest 4 Suspects In MySpace Robberies
(WBZ) GARDNER Four people have been arrested in connection with a MySpace robbery scam.

The suspects used the networking site to dupe victims into thinking they were going to meet a young woman, only to rob them when they showed up at a meeting point.

The latest victim was robbed by two armed men behind Dunn's Pond in Gardner.

The young woman whose picture was posted on the site is not a suspect. Police say she is a 16-year-old high school student who is a victim of identity theft.

The four suspects are scheduled to be arraigned later today in Gardner District Court.

(? MMVII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)
(wbztv.com/local/local_story_138093118.html)

[BlinD]

I only read (some of the beggining) and the middle section of this thread as it is long as hell. Stone is right on the money, as are the others who for the most part agree with him. To the others who question the moral implications of pedo-baiting, really it's pointless to do so... they are scum, once they do something so disgusting then they really shoulden't have any rights and no one should have any sympathy for them. It's like when someone (in almost any country) murders someone else, their rights are taken away... same idea.

The person who started the thread, it was good for a laugh and if it's true then that is even funnier. As far as the self proclaimed pedo, what an inferior twit... contradiction after conradiction, hypocrasy and general ignorance and stupidity. Topped off with "what is a minor, really" you damn well know, idiot. It always cracks me up when someone who is a moron try's his hardest to come off as an intellectual person. You are a joke.

If the pedo is in fact honest about all the lame garbage he said, if he isn't then hes still pretty damn sad to have nothing better to do with his life then this, then again "it" is pretty sad either way. Either way, this dolt comes to this community and tries to judge us based off the "theme" of the BBS saying we have no place to judge, yes we do... and the reasons why need no explanation unless someone is a complete simp, in which case... why bother?

And Satanism is for idiots, aside from the fact that you contradicted yourself left and right, just in general... everyone I've ever seen who claimed to be a Satanist has been dumber than a bag of shit, and you (the pedo) just reinforce that once again. You should consider commiting suicide, remember its down the road, not across the trail!

[odin_dax]

I only read (some of the beggining) and the middle section of this thread as it is long as hell. Stone is right on the money, as are the others who for the most part agree with him. To the others who question the moral implications of pedo-baiting, really it's pointless to do so... they are scum, once they do something so disgusting then they really shoulden't have any rights and no one should have any sympathy for them. It's like when someone (in almost any country) murders someone else, their rights are taken away... same idea.

The person who started the thread, it was good for a laugh and if it's true then that is even funnier. As far as the self proclaimed pedo, what an inferior twit... contradiction after conradiction, hypocrasy and general ignorance and stupidity. Topped off with "what is a minor, really" you damn well know, idiot. It always cracks me up when someone who is a moron try's his hardest to come off as an intellectual person. You are a joke.

If the pedo is in fact honest about all the lame garbage he said, if he isn't then hes still pretty damn sad to have nothing better to do with his life then this, then again "it" is pretty sad either way. Either way, this dolt comes to this community and tries to judge us based off the "theme" of the BBS saying we have no place to judge, yes we do... and the reasons why need no explanation unless someone is a complete simp, in which case... why bother?

And Satanism is for idiots, aside from the fact that you contradicted yourself left and right, just in general... everyone I've ever seen who claimed to be a Satanist has been dumber than a bag of shit, and you (the pedo) just reinforce that once again. You should consider commiting suicide, remember its down the road, not across the trail!

Dude, the horse is dead. It's not a good habit.

[headcase]

DizziE's post was only two days ago, and BilnD did bring a new idea to the arguement. That Fairy was talking shit. Everyone thought it but no one mentioned it. Plus when you're new all you can do is bring up old threads.

[Esophagus]

Wow, I had missed that whole satanism, stone calling him out on things bit. Congrats. That guy was an asshole. And a creep. Whether related to the child or not I would do whatever I could to stop someone who I knew was harming children. I just don't see how taing their money quite does that.

[BlinD]

Dude, the horse is dead. It's not a good habit.

DizziE's post was only two days ago, and BilnD did bring a new idea to the arguement. That Fairy was talking shit. Everyone thought it but no one mentioned it. Plus when you're new all you can do is bring up old threads.

Wow, I had missed that whole satanism, stone calling him out on things bit. Congrats. That guy was an asshole. And a creep. Whether related to the child or not I would do whatever I could to stop someone who I knew was harming children. I just don't see how taing their money quite does that.

Sorry odin, the jury is out and you lost the case... now your going to have to file in the court of appeals.

Thanks to headcase and Esophagus for jumping in and saying what most people realized about my post to begin with. "new idea, said what everyone was thinking, the satanist thing, (and even a congrats).

Esophagus, I agree about trying to stop freaks like that, as far as the money thing goes, I'm guessing some people figure they might as well loot someone who's a prick. But if any of this was actually true, it was pretty lame to let him go... they could have at least kept him tied, gagged and threw him out of a moving car onto the police station steps with a sign pinned to his shirt that read "I fuck children". Plus then they would have gotten his car...



PS: odin, "Dude, the horse isn't dead. (Pulling a troll move) It's not a good habit.

[odin_dax]

Sorry odin, the jury is out and you lost the case... now your going to have to file in the court of appeals.

Thanks to headcase and Esophagus for jumping in and saying what most people realized about my post to begin with. "new idea, said what everyone was thinking, the satanist thing, (and even a congrats).

Esophagus, I agree about trying to stop freaks like that, as far as the money thing goes, I'm guessing some people figure they might as well loot someone who's a prick. But if any of this was actually true, it was pretty lame to let him go... they could have at least kept him tied, gagged and threw him out of a moving car onto the police station steps with a sign pinned to his shirt that read "I fuck children". Plus then they would have gotten his car...



PS: odin, "Dude, the horse isn't dead. (Pulling a troll move) It's not a good habit.

Ah, the over zealous newb has a tongue. Sorry if you didn't like my comment, but it's true. This thread went back and forth with bickering, and you started it up again. Splitting negative statements for the beginning and end is another troll move you should avoid. Every good writer or psychologist knows the beginning and end are the statements readers remember most. What did you even say in the middle? I can't remember.

[Esophagus]

Esophagus, I agree about trying to stop freaks like that, as far as the money thing goes, I'm guessing some people figure they might as well loot someone who's a prick. But if any of this was actually true, it was pretty lame to let him go... they could have at least kept him tied, gagged and threw him out of a moving car onto the police station steps with a sign pinned to his shirt that read "I fuck children". Plus then they would have gotten his car....Yeah. If this guy had baited him, got a camera, met him, and fucked him over, got him arrested or something, all would be fine. But saying "Give me all your money and I will let you go" is quite possibly the lowest thing I can think of in this scenario. I would think higher of someone who shot him. So yeah, I agree. I think this horse is getting pretty close to beaten though. Everyone seems to just be rehashing things now. I'm just glad I got up to speed on Anemic fairy. He was a tool.

Every good writer or psychologist knows the beginning and end are the statements readers remember most. What did you even say in the middle? I can't remember.A good person knows how to read. No reason to be so harsh to him.

[odin_dax]

Yeah. If this guy had baited him, got a camera, met him, and fucked him over, got him arrested or something, all would be fine. But saying "Give me all your money and I will let you go" is quite possibly the lowest thing I can think of in this scenario. I would think higher of someone who shot him. So yeah, I agree. I think this horse is getting pretty close to beaten though. Everyone seems to just be rehashing things now. I'm just glad I got up to speed on Anemic fairy. He was a tool.

A good person knows how to read. No reason to be so harsh to him.

I know how to read.

[BlinD]

Yeah. If this guy had baited him, got a camera, met him, and fucked him over, got him arrested or something, all would be fine. But saying "Give me all your money and I will let you go" is quite possibly the lowest thing I can think of in this scenario. I would think higher of someone who shot him. So yeah, I agree. I think this horse is getting pretty close to beaten though. Everyone seems to just be rehashing things now. I'm just glad I got up to speed on Anemic fairy. He was a tool.

A good person knows how to read. No reason to be so harsh to him.

Yeah, mabye it "low" sums it up I would say. I dont think it's getting close to beaten because the discussion pertaining to the actual thread isn't really being rehashed, just built on more, threads teter out when trolls grab on and have nothing worth saying, yah know? But you and I have a good dialogue going as did DIz when he posted those articles. Yeah fairy was a tool but it looks like someone wants to beat him for the title.

Good of you to jump towards my defense, appreciate it... you know the saying "don't feed the trolls"? Coulden't help but giving said troll something to chew on though, hehe. It makes no difference what he says though, people like that are always a joke, and from what I've seen of his past posts, this is just more of the same non constructive jackass behavior as always.

Ah, the over zealous newb has a tongue. Sorry if you didn't like my comment, but it's true. This thread went back and forth with bickering, and you started it up again. Splitting negative statements for the beginning and end is another troll move you should avoid. Every good writer or psychologist knows the beginning and end are the statements readers remember most. What did you even say in the middle? I can't remember.

Ah the trivial dolt didn't like the taste of his own medicine. What a shock. I especially like the fact that your angry enough to use the word noob, last resort from a tiny mind. Your comment didn't bug me, I'm used to people like you from other forums, nothing real to say, nothing to contribute, your just like every other person that dosen't count, no biggie.

The simple fact is that, the thread is still active, last post being two days from mine, not a week from mine, since it's pretty apparent you have alot of time on your hands mabye you should bone up on your forum etiquette.

At 26 you really should be past this stage, it's just sad, plus with a post count of near 200, most of your posts are digs that contribute nothing. Speaks volumes for your character.

What exactly would you know about being a good writer or psychologist, you're neither. Mabye in your mind, but get real. With a name as generic and played out as odin dax it's not very surprising. I honestly can't remember your words at all, just your bad attitude. Obviously you remember my words quite well since your compelled to come back and continue, thanks for telling me I'm a good writer!

Scamula put it best in a past thread, what defines people like you...
"The only way people like you get high is by trying to tear down others and starting shit when you have nothing to offer."

and this sums you up also, since you have that reading problem...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/Grizgruz/dontfeed.jpg

Theres a big difference in knowing how to read, and knowing how to think. Work on that.

I knew we were going to butt heads before I joined, as I read the forums before hand, and saw you doing this kind of thing to others, so I decided to put you in your place. As far as I'm concerned you gave me a ribbing and I gave you one, now it's over... but I'm sure you'll want to get the last word in and throw out a few more meaningless (to me) insults, feel free.

[DIzzIE]

Sooner or later, some of us are going to get tired of having to keep splitting topics and moving shit to the flame lounge. If your post is about neither scam nor crime, nor a reflection thereon, it might magically disappear. Enough disappearing posts, in turn, often lead to disappearing members.

[Stone]

I could have typed many more posts, lengthy ones at that, to argue and whatever with the pedo. To be honest, I didn't see any point in wasting any more of my time with that shit. Fuck it, I'm not going to be able to change him so I left it. This is probably something he enjoys, going around forums winding people up with his crap. Just let it die.

[odin_dax]

Yeah, mabye it "low" sums it up I would say. I dont think it's getting close to beaten because the discussion pertaining to the actual thread isn't really being rehashed, just built on more, threads teter out when trolls grab on and have nothing worth saying, yah know? But you and I have a good dialogue going as did DIz when he posted those articles. Yeah fairy was a tool but it looks like someone wants to beat him for the title.

Good of you to jump towards my defense, appreciate it... you know the saying "don't feed the trolls"? Coulden't help but giving said troll something to chew on though, hehe. It makes no difference what he says though, people like that are always a joke, and from what I've seen of his past posts, this is just more of the same non constructive jackass behavior as always.



Ah the trivial dolt didn't like the taste of his own medicine. What a shock. I especially like the fact that your angry enough to use the word noob, last resort from a tiny mind. Your comment didn't bug me, I'm used to people like you from other forums, nothing real to say, nothing to contribute, your just like every other person that dosen't count, no biggie.

The simple fact is that, the thread is still active, last post being two days from mine, not a week from mine, since it's pretty apparent you have alot of time on your hands mabye you should bone up on your forum etiquette.

At 26 you really should be past this stage, it's just sad, plus with a post count of near 200, most of your posts are digs that contribute nothing. Speaks volumes for your character.

What exactly would you know about being a good writer or psychologist, you're neither. Mabye in your mind, but get real. With a name as generic and played out as odin dax it's not very surprising. I honestly can't remember your words at all, just your bad attitude. Obviously you remember my words quite well since your compelled to come back and continue, thanks for telling me I'm a good writer!

Scamula put it best in a past thread, what defines people like you...
"The only way people like you get high is by trying to tear down others and starting shit when you have nothing to offer."

and this sums you up also, since you have that reading problem...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z152/Grizgruz/dontfeed.jpg

Theres a big difference in knowing how to read, and knowing how to think. Work on that.

I knew we were going to butt heads before I joined, as I read the forums before hand, and saw you doing this kind of thing to others, so I decided to put you in your place. As far as I'm concerned you gave me a ribbing and I gave you one, now it's over... but I'm sure you'll want to get the last word in and throw out a few more meaningless (to me) insults, feel free.

Well, I must have the last word to correct you, not throw out meaningless insults. Basically, I can say the same things about you about the writer comments, psychologist comments (which I do have a background in both, at least more than you), the troll comment, the asshole comment, the mature comment, etc. Just wondering, because you easily got offended by my first comment, why you think you're somehow better than me? You act like it. You could have easily commented the last post was two days before yours. Instead, you chose to be a smart ass, and I responded in kind. So are you any more correct in acting the way you are than how you judge me? I think not.
Yeah, I have my ways, not because I'm actually like that, but because I don't tolerate bullshit. Sorry if you disagree with me, for example, that blackmailing and letting a pedo go is wrong. And, going back to the psychologist/writer line, all I have to say is this... Whether Jesus says fire is hot, or Hitler says fire is hot, fire is still hot.
I've had a lot of experience on forums, and there are people like you and me of all ages on every one of them. I've been here for awhile now, and I've posted responses to many threads on topic.
As for the odin dax played out thing, who plays it out? I'm the only one who uses it, and I've been using that nick on every board and registration site since 1997.
I think the whole "I'm new so I have the mark my territory" thing is old, too. Hey, whatever, I'm used to people like you. Call everybody who steps on your toes a troll. That's fine, too. I only hope one day you'll grow out of the holier-than-thou attitude you seem to possess. In the meantime, I'm sure you'll continue to trample through this thread like an elephant through a porcelain store, giving the act of contribution and friendship just so you can feel apart of this board. That's great, in fact, but if you're going to talk about forum etiquette, respect your elders.

[Stone]

Alright, that's enough.

Tread locked.