No buzz no more from cowies

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Could taking trifluoperazine, disulfiram (antabuse) and citralopram daily stop the way ecstasy works?

I ask because no matter how many pills I take now, I don't get the huge dilated pupils and jaw clenching. I dropped four earlier and can only say I feel a tad trippy. I don't get the jaw clenching I used to nor do I get the eye wiggles as often as I used to with pills.

Compared to most I would say I am a pill head but tonight is the first night I've taken cowies (pills) without any other drugs like bass, meth or whizz and I can feel fuck all. At ma mates house I was sittin perfectly sober after dropping four, while a couple of younguns sat chewing there face off after dropping just one...

Could my medication be dulling the effects of the MDMA or could ma brain just be fucked after months ov meth and whizz abuse?

Whizz = Amphetamine
Cowies = E Pills

[theMaxx]

Over in the States, e's often cut - some 'e' you get will just be pcp or meth or some other shit. Trust your source?

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Yeah.

Fair dues not all pills will contain MDMA but the batches we get up here are pretty hot. It's just the mind blowin buzzes I used to get from pills when I was still an alcoholic aren't there no more so I put it down to the medication I take, when your sitting sober in a room full ov your pals who are all clipped off the face of the earth you start to wonder what the fucks going on in your brain. I'll get to the 7th pill mark and then the severe paranoia kicks in. I'm already under the doctor n shrinks for paranoia and cope reasonalby well in day to day life but come the 7th or 8th pill on a night and my world goes from a slight trip to full blown pyschosis. I'm gonna give up on stimulants and stick with my beloved downers.

:help:

Meth seems to be the only upper that gives me a buzz anymore. Pills have lost there magic, Whizz does nothing but keep me awake and turns me into a worser paranoid zonk.

I think my body needs a break. For the past however months I've been tankin up on downers one day, and then a shit load of uppers the same night or following day... Think this could cause any chemical changes in the brain?

At the end of the day I can't blame the pills coz my pals who take the same ones, well they do alright and get pretty offit on a night so it must be me. :aargh4:

P.S See those 4 I took earlier tonight they've done nothing but keep me awake... :banghead: Now I'm chuckin' mazzies down ma throat like sweeties. :naughty:

[DoctaD]

It happens... you've likely built up such a tolerance that you barely notice the effects. Give your body a rest from all substances.

[headcase]

What exactly are trifluoperazine and citralopram for?

Antabuse blocks the metabolism of dopamine, and stimulants affect your dopamine too, right? Medication interaction was never my forte, and interaction with ecstasy can be extremely dangerous (often fatal), especially with drugs like MAOI's. I usually wouldn't link to another forum, but I wouldn't trust this to my guesswork. Ask at Drug Forum (http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/). There is a section on ecstasy. They know what they're talking about.

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What exactly are trifluoperazine and citralopram for?

Citalopram is an antidepressant drug used to treat depression associated with mood disorders. It is also used on occasion in the treatment of body dysmorphic disorder and anxiety.

I am prescribed citalopram (40mg daily) for severe depression.

Citalopram is an SSRI I belive, not an MOAI so no worrys there.

Trifluoperazine (sold as Eskazinyl?, Eskazine?, Jatroneural?, Modalina?, Stelazine?, Terfluzine?, Trifluoperaz?) is a typical antipsychotic drug of the phenothiazine group. Trifluoperazine is a highly potent drug (approx. 20-times more potent than Chlorpromazine).

I am prescribed trifluoperazine to control paranoid schizophrenia and dangerous behaviour. I'm now on 15 mg.



Thanks DD & Headcase. :notworthy

[headcase]

SSRI's do something, let me have a look. They might be dangerous too, so don't take any pills in the meantime :).

EDIT:

The simple answer is that SSRIs (Prozac, Paxil, & Zoloft among others) may reduce the effects of MDMA.
[Cite. (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_info9.shtml)]

No danger, but it probably lessened the buzz. I vaguely remember someone quoting one week as the time it takes an SSRI to clear from your system, but I might be thinking of something else altogether.


Edit again:

Citalopram inhibited most of the psychological effects of MDMA.
From the same source.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Aghk.. thank god you found that headcase, i have some citalopram that i was supposed to take from yesterday(was drinking port so i didnt take them) becase on tues hopefully gettin 10 xtc pills for free! P.S. i have never done mdma.

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Thanks Headcase.

After reading that I thought about quittin the citralopram but nah, fuck it.

Thanks again Headcase.

Nox, your first time is always the best buzz... Double drop. :veryhappy

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Serious, i was thinkin bout it too or like drop one, than 30mins-1hr later drop the other one or both at same time?

[REL0AD]

Yeah, by our conversation over MSN you seem like you've got the mind to cope with double dropping, and your obviously old enough to know what your doing so yeah, go for it.

Trust your dealer though cause as someone said before, not all pills contain MDMA.

Have a good one mate.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

I think i will. Yer gonna get them later today hopefully in 4-5 hrs time will know because went there today an he only had a half g of gear but later today he will have 10 pills(free to see what they like{just top get us hooked lol} more business) and another 1g between 2 people. Oh, and its a 2 hr drive there! lol

[headcase]

I wouldn't drop two if you've never done MDMA before. You're going to love it anyway, you'll probably just get it into a state with two. Everyone I've ever talked to about it recommends only taking one and one for as long a you can. Then, when you're tired of that, you've got something to step up to. You're first double-drop is the closest you'll ever come to reaching the heights of your first time, but you have to experience to appreciate it. Starting with two takes that away.

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Starting with two takes that away.

No, drop 4.

My cousin currently drops 6 at a time lol.

Your probably best takin the advice of Headcase cause we are what you would call a group of junkies anyways, we aim to get into fucked states rather than just enjoy the buzz like a normal person would.

[headcase]

Unfortunately, MDMA doesn't work like that. Sure, you'll be in a state your first few times, but MDMA has a kind of permanent tolerance. It's not tolerance in the usual sense of the word, more like it loses its magic. Given that I rate MDMA head and shoulders above anything else I've tried (a list only lacking crack, heroin and crystal meth of any note), that would be a disaster. On top of that you have to deal with a comedown. I think the fact that your friend drops six pills at a time makes this arguement for me. The general consensus between my group is 3+ is pointless, and that includes the likes of Dutch super-pills.

Seriously though, read up about MDMA losing its magic. Its already not the same for me since that binge at the end of last summer, so I have to be careful now. Once every few months and no more then 4 a night. If I knew then what I do know, I#d never have taken what I did.



EDIT: Ugh, I keep reading over this post and not being happy with it. Long story short, if you take what you plan to, it will be pointless taking MDMA in a few weeks, and it will stay pointless forever. Given how important MDMA has been for me on so many levels, the idea of reaching that stage genuinely bothers me.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Ahh headcase sounds like MDMA is your poison! Pot is mine! Now to tell from the start never ended up going my driver had to have dinner with his family an that didn't finish till like 11pm and by than the dealer was in bed so gonna give my mate a call soon he said we gonna go today. just hope he ain't stooging me!

[REL0AD]

What do you pay over there?

Until recently it was 5 for a Tenner up where I live but it's strangely gone to 4 for a Tenner now. :aargh4:

I remember the day when I'd pay ?10 for one pill :tongue: then 50p a pill...

Depends on the batch really.

[DoctaD]

We used to binge, taking 10 or more chats in a night. The dealer delivered them to the door which was probably our main problem. We would eat two each, then when the full buzz subsided even slightly, we were ringing him every half hour buying more.

Eventually, we were buying twenty at a time instead of two. At this stage (a stage which lasted months, I must add) I took a break from pills. When I tried them again, I went back to the way it was at the start, just buying a few. I didnt really enjoy myself, I didnt get the euphoria. I got a bit of a buzz, but wasnt able to enjoy it, nothing like I used to.

Havent touched pills for four months, don't plan to again.

EDIT: As for prices, it depends totally on where you get them. Usually 10 for ?20, 100 for between ?60 and ?100. Buying them individually, you would pay ?4 in my estate. Rarely will you find a dealer who sells in small quantities though.

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

$8 a pill where its like $20 locale. not gonna be a damn constant thing probley 3 times a month(3 days binge longest i dunno??)

[headcase]

I'd do some more research before rushing into this.

Simply put:
MDMA lets your brain shit itself of a lot of neurotransmitters, like serotonin. Which is great, but you only have a limited supply of serotonin. You'll buzz away like mad for a few hours until you run out of it and then you'll "come down". After that it needs to replenish, which usually takes about a week. A big mistake kids make is after they come down, they take more to come back up. MDMA doesn't work like that. It's like trying to squeese more juice out of an orange that's already been squeesed dry - you'll just make shit of the orange (your brain).

Secondly, it's possible to OD on MDMA in that same way you can OD on weed. It's nigh on impossible to reach the fatal LD50 dose (of either drug), but too much can make it a very unpleasant experience. An MDMA overdose can cause anxiety attacks and paranoia. Couple that with the MDMA equivalent of amphetamine psychosis and your night can go downhill fast.

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Secondly, it's possible to OD on MDMA in that same way you can OD on weed. It's nigh on impossible to reach the fatal LD50 dose (of either drug), but too much can make it a very unpleasant experience. An MDMA overdose can cause anxiety attacks and paranoia. Couple that with the MDMA equivalent of amphetamine psychosis and your night can go downhill fast.

I have to agree. I have expirienced both the anxiety attacks and amphetamine psychosis on more than one occasion and I tip you, it's scary as fuck and like headcase said, not a pleasant expirience.

That's some good sound advice Headcase.

I'm on coke, ampthet and bass at the minute. Not an extreme buzz going but I feel alot more calm and actually feel human, it's nice.. I was going to attempt and make crack (bicarbonate soda method) but my dealer and a mate of mine persuaded me otherwise, so... top notch coke though haha

Have a good one Nox.

~ Reload

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Ok so i got stooged this time. Next time im gonna buy some, fuck waiting for free ones. Ok than i guess i will be only have 2-2 1/2 pills than. Reload just to let you know mate Someones looking for you! (http://www.bombshock.com/forums/search.php?search_author=KATAMAN)

[headcase]

Time for some mixed messaging. I'd buy 3, dropping one, one and one - an hour apart each time. Unless you're dropping two, in which case I'd drop two, then another two or three hours later.

[Stone]

I wouldn't drop two if you've never done MDMA before. You're going to love it anyway, you'll probably just get it into a state with two. Everyone I've ever talked to about it recommends only taking one and one for as long a you can. Then, when you're tired of that, you've got something to step up to. You're first double-drop is the closest you'll ever come to reaching the heights of your first time, but you have to experience to appreciate it. Starting with two takes that away.

Good advice.

[Stone]

MDMA has a kind of permanent tolerance. It's not tolerance in the usual sense of the word, more like it loses its magic.

I don't know if I'm getting this right. You mean that the more you take it the less you enjoy it? If so, then I agree.

Last time I took x was my 21st 2 years ago. I hadn't taken it in about 6-8 months before that. Before that I was a total junkie, taking on average 8-10 pills a night (at the height of my binge Itopped out at 14 and that was such a shitty buzz, and even quadrouple dropped pills three nights later that gave me no effect at all!) usually 3-4 times a week. It seemed to others like I was having the time of my life but it's only afterwards I realised that I just wanted to get the perfect buzz like I had in the beginning.

I thought... Maybe if I take a break I'll be like a newborn again... I took the break, and when I took them again I was fairly fucked but it was a crap night that I blamed it on the fact that I only took 6 pills (alot after a few month break). Then the night of my 21st came. I musta took at least 10, and they weren't the shitty coca-cola's or heineken's (also called stars). They were pink hearts, rare but incredibley strong. I was absolutely demented. So absolutely fucking off my tits. But it was shit. I still didn't get what I was looking for. So I came to the conclusion that I will never reach that again. And therefore, I will never take pills again.

To all those who are about to embark on the magical journey of the best experience of your life: enjoy every second of it. Don't squander it like I did. And, appreciate it for what it is.

[Esophagus]

taking on average 8-10 pills a night

quadrouple dropped pills three nights later that gave me no effect at all!I know literally nothing about any of this stuff. Im not big into drugs. But isn't 8-10 pills in a night more than a quadrouple drop? or would a quadrouple drop be doing the 8-10 pills four times?

[DoctaD]

A quadrouple drop would be eating four pills at once.

[Esophagus]

Oh yeah, I guess that the 8-10 would probably split up. Blech. n00b.