KNO3 Smoke Bombs.

[.VX]

What are some better smoke bombs than KNO3 and Sugar?

Like, proper ones that could be realistically employed for something useful.

[hamster]

This is thread derailment why don't you make a separate thread
I don't understand the lack of moderation here

[Th0r]

Originally Posted by hamster

This is thread derailment why don't you make a separate thread
I don't understand the lack of moderation here

What blatant hypocrisy.

How many times have you said something that has caused a thread to be derailed?

And enough of the Pseudo-Moderation. You've violated quite a few rules in your time.

And if you have a problem with the moderation on this forum you can take it up via PM to DD, DIzzIE, Stone, Odin_Dax or myself. Simple as that. Or alternatively if you don't like the way the forum is run you no longer have to be a part of it.

XxXxX

If I was going to commit a crime where Smoke Bombs were going to be used I would invest in a large batch of professional Paintball Smoke Grenades. I'd buy them months in advance of any crime, and then I'd split them - 50/50. I'd use half of them for training myself to use them as well as calculating how many I'd need to use.

The other half would be used on the job. The only problem is the Cops would have the remains of the Smoke Grenades and from that they'd be able to find out who sold them to who.

This is when you need improvised smoke devices such as a KNO3/Sugar Smoke 'Bombz'. Chlorine can also be used, but I'm not to sure on other chemicals you need.

KNO3/Sugar Smoke 'Bombz' are all very good for Pyrotechnics and special effects purposes but for any kind of criminal activity where Smoke devices are needed to give you cover they are shit, unless...

You have a lot of them, and the ratios are perfect-o for the amount of Smoke you'll need and you can time to the second when they'll ignite.

[hamster]

Originally Posted by Th0r

What blatant hypocrisy.

How many times have you said something that has caused a thread to be derailed?

.

count for me please

[Nox (ADVANCED)]

Originally Posted by hamster

count for me please

Guess what, There is one^

He dosnt have a week to spare, i will give you a rough estimate over 200.

[hamster]

Originally Posted by Nox (ADVANCED)

Guess what, There is one^

not even, notice the quote in my post, next time you want to open your mouth read the damn post first you stupid fuck

[-=HeX=-]

Ah sure...

WE find that a KNO3 Sugar mix, WITH WAX, is damn fine.

We mix up 60:40 KNO3:Sugar, then add it to equal mass of Wax, and add a 'pinch' of BP per 100g. Melt the wax, stir like mad. Pour into sections of PVC piping with a wax 'plug', add a 'well' to fill with BP and fuse it... Add a pull-ring ignitor system and BOOM. Smoke grenade... These things kick ass in forests and outdoor-urban areas (think urban wasteland). Clearing 'foxholes' and Prefabs/Shipping Containers with these and flashbangs was never so easy...

Another, non pyro one, involves an airsoft 'Thunder-B' CO2 powered 'Distraction grenade'. Fill em up with flour... That provides a small 'Cloud' that goes away fast.

I am working on a fun one - ground up dust of IR-Pass Only Filter material, dispersed. For indoor use. A kilo of this would make vision impossible... Unless you have NVG! This gives you, who have NVG, an advantage. Perhaps IR-Blocking filter can be used to 'inert' the NVD wearers?

WE are now trying a KNO3:Wax mix but it sometimes never works right.

[iceniner]

If you're going to use a comp with Zn in it, be wary of freshly formed ZnO. A couple of good whiffs will induce metal fume fever

Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky?

[Th0r]

I've been pretty ill in the past because I inhaled some Zinc fumes from Zinc Solder. I only got a small whiff of it and I was sick as shit for the rest of the day.

[_JT_]

Aside from the KNO3+Sugar mix, I have also had fairly good success with the ammonium nitrate and newspaper method. It's a bit "kewl" but it actually does a pretty good job when done right. Downside to that method is you need quite a lot of the stuff for any meaningful smokescreening.

One such "bomb" I made inside a Pringles can with lots of tightly coiled up newspaper which had been soaked in the nitrate. It used a standard visco fuse terminated in a blob of pyro candy but there's no reason you couldn't build a striker or light it electrically. Unfortuately, it was FUCKING MASSIVE, but I built it big on purpose. If you're only going to build one of something, and it's not designed to explode, why not build big? :D

[iceniner]

Yeah man, when I was a kid I used to melt solder and stuff in flower-pot crucibles for fun (yeah, I was a weird kid) and I suddenly got sick as hell. But it went away soon after I got back into good air, I must not have gotten a big dose. That was the last time I ever did that.

[Th0r]

Interestingly enough it feels almost euphoric when you first inhale it, wanting you to inhale more. Then five minutes later you feel like shit.